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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:38 pm

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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:15 pm

Glasgow's 9s pass is pretty rapid from the base. Good signing Strauss.
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Post by prop_lyd Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:15 pm

Did 2 and a half hours, ran with my mate who struggled but didn't want to leave him!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:19 pm

Not a bad effort mate with a hangover lol

Saints awful across the board.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:22 pm

Saints stuggle with lack of top class no10 and didn't replace Ashton with top class players. Saints need to get Lawes and Manoa on the ball as much as possible as they seem like the only two players who can get over the gainline.

Can still see Saints winning this, but they seem to be lacking a bit of physicality this season, which isn't like them at all!

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:23 pm

Strauss is a tremendous player all round. Unlucky not to be capped. Is on my radar for foreign signing

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:26 pm

Manoa carrying well but seen nothing from Lawes tbh.

Manoa again!!! Good try Pisi

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:31 pm

Lawes been carrying well too Pooly.

Manoa has gone up a few levels this season, been like this in every game I've seen him play. Must be one of the most improved players this year.

Always worried for Saints when Glasgow attack Pisi's wing - looks really vulnerable out there.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:31 pm

Cuthbert completes the easiest hat trick I have ever seen. Sale are so poor. Typical Redpath side. They seem to have no game plan

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:32 pm

Pisi brothers saving Saints here!

Never a scrum pen to Saints, Hartley popped straight up. Bizarre decision

Not seen Lawes make a yard Chris (missed 10 mins making missus lunch tho)

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:36 pm

Sale's defence has been horrendous. I am taking a strong dislike to Diamond atm. To me he seems a w anker who thinks he (and sale) are something there not. This Northern superclub tripe is embarrassing when we defend like under 13's.

Macleod's kicking from hand has been dire, Fowles is clueless and Sam Tuitupou is potentially the worst centre I've had the displeasure to watch whilst he's been at Sale (and there have been some bad ones).

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:36 pm

Sale getting smashed Mat? Have they put out a strong team?

THought Lawes and Manoa are only forwards playing well for Saints at the moment, Hartley started coming into it a bit more, but think their backrow is getting tied up too much and not giving Saints any go forward.

All of Arry's Saints are having a stormer though!

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:37 pm

Richie Gray must be pleased he joined you Steve!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:39 pm

He has been awful aswell though. Andy Powell and maybe Will Addison the only players who look like they fancy it. Tommy Taylor at 2 going okay for a young lad.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:39 pm

get Cips and Leota on for Macleod and Tuitupou and have a run.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:40 pm

Lawes putting himself about but not seen carry tbh, might have missed something though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:43 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Cuthbert completes the easiest hat trick I have ever seen. Sale are so poor. Typical Redpath side. They seem to have no game plan

Last one was good finish but first two he could have moonwalked in!

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:44 pm

You seem to have some really good players, but then some really average guys and they bring you down. Seems like some big issues with Diamond's recruitment.

Cips seems to have got a lot of stick for Sale, but isnt given any sort of platform in the games I've watched and he's not a no10 you want on the backfoot.

Should be a good second half at Franklins Gardens

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:48 pm

Pooly, when I say Lawes carrying game I'm not saying he's making huge yards like Manoa is, but the number of defenders he's taking out of the game bringing him down - always 2-3 tacklers.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:59 pm

Ah right so he's not really carrying well, just taking passes and getting tackled lol.

I thought when you said he was carrying well you meant making yards!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:14 pm

COME ON!!!! Cips and Leota making the difference

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:16 pm

Hartley's really improved this season, looks like he's lost a fair bit of weight and he's finally carrying it properly.

Saints desperately need a new fly half though.

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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:41 pm

Well done cipriani! Great impact. You needed that boost steve. And i agree diamond is a w anker has a face u want to punch

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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:46 pm

I can't stand Diamond , the whole give the north to sale thing peed me off rotton.
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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:09 pm

Almost Toby....
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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:12 pm

Can't believe Sale won that!

Good weekend for English teams so far, hopefully Tigers can do it too!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:19 pm

Cips play well?

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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:32 pm

Very

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:37 pm

Sweet, got him on other game

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:44 pm

This is a cracking forward effort by Tigers so far - sure I read that their forwards average 18stone a man today! Need to protect Youngs a bit better around the base, but so far looking good.


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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:44 pm

What a try!

Cole smashing Poux at the scrum.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:44 pm

I turned this game on at the right time Very Happy

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:46 pm

Jinxed it!

Anyone signed that 18 year old centre from Toulouse? Looks quality!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:46 pm

C'mon Tigers!!

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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:46 pm

Luke has him i think?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:48 pm

I signed him in the summer Very Happy
Makes up for losing out for Fofanna!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:48 pm

Outbid me!

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:49 pm

Looks a top talent SJE!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:52 pm

Looks like he could make the french squad by the end of the year the way the french are hyping him up and will sit in my academy for another 3/4 seasons

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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:11 pm

Why has Owens pinged Youngs there? All he is doing is clearing out?
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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:12 pm

Warburton's finger after today

https://twitter.com/samwarburton_/status/257498965229060096/photo/1
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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:15 pm

Vital this Scrum
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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:16 pm

U can't clear out with your shoulder though driver was stupid from youngs. Ben youngs having a stinker.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:16 pm

What was youngs doing ??? Bad day at the office. Still looks a long way off being match sharp

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:17 pm

Tigers need to keep getting Tuilagi on the ball!

Ben Youngs - muppet. Why tap.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:19 pm

He was penalised because he went in with the shoulder

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Post by Driver Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:23 pm

The rules about rucking completely confuse me , if you can't go in with your shoulder what can you go in with?
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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:26 pm

Decision making at 9 and 10 for Leicester has been really bad today - Flood in first half, and Youngs for the game.

The Toulouse bench is just incredible, can't see how Tigers will win this. Think Clermont and Toulon are better than Toulouse though!

Games gone from Tigers now.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:29 pm

I want Toulouse to bring on their reserve th. I signed him in summer he is a monster

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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:31 pm

Flood has been ok but mcalilster different class. Might have to start him at 10 soon

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:33 pm

Floods been better in second half, but made some bad choices in the first half and played in completely the wrong areas. His kicking has been very good though.

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