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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:38 pm

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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
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8 Homepage - Page 13 1Bath Rugby840 4 185 193 -17 17 21 0 3 19
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Waiting List
1. pullthestrings
2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:24 pm

Boks squad for the autumn series announced...

http://www.rugby15.co.za/2012/10/bok-squad-announced-for-eoyt/
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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:24 pm

Jsd is class but bit of a luxury player. Bit like Bryan Ruiz for Fulham.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:31 pm

Yea think similar Nick, great attacking threat but just not got the defence.

Can't believe Raymond Rhule got called up!

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Post by Driver Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:55 pm

Its cold in the highest point in St James' Park

Brits back is a big call
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Post by prop_lyd Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:19 pm

Didn't realise higginbotham isn't traveling, it's two weeks he's banned for yeah?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:42 pm

Hadn't planned for Brits being called up.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:56 pm

Hoopers offloading is absolutely incredible at times. Some great games this week - Care has really stepped up a lot in the last month or so

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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:11 pm

That TMO deserves an uppercut from mike Tyson

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:15 pm

Sure its technically a try though. Went backwards off hands then downwards pressure

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:15 pm

Linesman in the Merseyside derby deserves the uppercut much more

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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:21 pm

Yeh that was a joke as well

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:33 pm

Quins always have a bit of luck with the tmo - was like that first day of the season against Wasps.

Nick Easter is playing very well at the moment - who has Tom Guest in this game? He's looking pretty good again, taken him a while after his leg injuries! Quins play such a great style of rugby - so tempted with Botica as a fly half, reckon they might try him at 12 when Evans comes back.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:03 pm

Easter the form 8 in Europe as we stand.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:19 pm

Arno Botha in boks as well. Top player glad i signed him. Could make a name fr him self. Comfortable all across the back row

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:24 pm

Sounds as though Robson and Paice have both been called up for Hartley and Lawes. Think we could miss Hartley's leadership in the AI's if he's ruled out as that is something we miss in the England squad at the moment.

Sadly looks like Joe Simpson is out for quite some time, looks like he got a really nasty knock and was carried off on a stretcher.

Looks like SA are giving some of their youngsters a chance to get some experience on this tour - about 6 uncapped aren't there?

Wonder how much Catt will have in the England backline - got to be Care, Flood, Monye, Barritt, Tuilagi, Ashton and Brown - would personally prefer Sharples to Monye, but the Quins understanding with Brown and Monye would make it easier.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:43 pm

S h I t robson was key to my a I team. I have no second rows. Aaaggghhhh

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:46 pm

Anyone watch the bath game yesterday ?? Looks like Donald has come in to form, only taken a year!


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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:29 pm

Can loan you Dean mumm maybe?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:36 pm

Reckon Gloucester need Harden to have a Jamie Johnstone season and really push on and they have the makings of pushing for the title.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:44 pm

Anyone watch the currie cup final? Amazing game. Deon Fourie man of match at 7 he is great there. Etzbeth destroyed their lineout and jdj scored a great try worth watching. All my boys played super well. Lambie went well in a great game of rugby

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:46 pm

Pete/Nick

How has Jamie Gibson been playing? Scored a try last time out in AP and played well in what I saw today. Hearing Garvey also playing well.

Burns played well this weekend but there were a lot of mistakes but was magnificent at times

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:48 pm

Remember need to be under 40 to loan players in Matt, I'm having similar conflicts

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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:57 pm

Gibson has improves but gives away too many pens. Garvey is different class just does so much every game. Burns looks so good! Johnstone struggled against lahiff today.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:28 pm

Pooly I have watsoni vutu I can release. Burns takes risks so always going to make mistakes. Glos backline so fluid you have sharples jsd 36 and burns all popping up at first receiver

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:33 pm

I would love england to pick this side v Fiji. Just really have a go. Never happen but can dream.

1. Marler
2. Tom Youngs
3. Dan Cole
4. Matt Garvey
5. Geoff Parling
6. Carl Fearns
7. Steffon Armitage
8. Ben Morgan
9. Danny Care
10. Freddie Burns
11. Christian Wade
12. Manu Tuilagi
13. JJ
14. Chris Ashton
15. Mike Brown

Would be so good just to watch a England side play with its most talented attacking players!

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:49 pm

I would like to see sharples in he has been razor sharp since back from injury. Also think Tom johnsons form may see him keep his place

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:50 pm

Wade was exceptional today Steven, he's the most exciting runner I've seen in the AP - think it's his size that makes him so difficult to stop as he's got such a low-centre of gravity. Really could be an English Shane Williams - can't see Lancaster picking him though, as he has so much more emphasis on defence (think they will pick Monye instead of Sharples, where latter is better winger I think now).

If you get Foden and Ashton in the backthree you're going to be pretty solid defensively, so I can't see why he shouldn't get a game for England come 6Nations.

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Post by stnick88 Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:18 pm

That would be quality steve. If only.

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Post by Driver Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:38 pm

Forwards:

Hookers Dane Coles - Wellington * Andrew Hore - Taranaki (72) KevenMealamu - Auckland (100)

Props Wyatt Crockett - Canterbury (7) Charlie Faumuina - Auckland (4) Ben Franks - Canterbury (21) Owen Franks - Canterbury (41) Tony Woodcock - North Harbour (92)

Locks Brodie Retallick - Bay of Plenty (10) Luke Romano - Canterbury (8) Ali Williams - Auckland (75) Samuel Whitelock - Canterbury (35)

Loose forwards Sam Cane - Bay of Plenty (4) Richie McCaw (captain) - Canterbury (113) Liam Messam - Waikato (17) Kieran Read - Canterbury (45) Adam Thomson - Otago (28) Victor Vito - Wellington (17)

Backs:

Halfbacks Tawera Kerr–Barlow - Waikato * Aaron Smith - Manawatu (10) Piri Weepu - Auckland (66)

First five-eighths Beauden Barrett - Taranaki (2) Daniel Carter - Canterbury (92) Aaron Cruden - Manawatu (18)

Midfielders Tamati Ellison - Otago (3) Ma’a Nonu - Wellington (73) Conrad Smith - Wellington (63)

Outside backs Israel Dagg - Hawke’s Bay (22) Hosea Gear - Wellington (13) Cory Jane - Wellington (38) Ben Smith - Otago (9) Julian Savea - Wellington (5)
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:53 pm

Great run by JSD for try.

Cole looking in great form, smashed Nick Wood all game

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Post by stnick88 Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:36 am

I think Cole is currently the favourite for the Lions tighthead spot.

Funnily enough when Glos brought Wood off and Dan Murphy came on, their scrum improved.

Don't think Marler was that great yday, think Aulika had the upper hand on him.

Care and Easter were brilliant.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:37 am

http://www.espnscrum.com/lions-tour-2013/rugby/story/171778.html


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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:52 am

Servat started at the weekend!

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:20 pm

Matt Mullan now in the England squad as Marler seems to be injured!

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Post by stnick88 Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:55 pm

Marler got nailed by Hala'ufia yesterday, wonder if thats what injured him.

Think Vunipola will start either way.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:59 pm

Tight calf muscle I think Nick, was a blooming impressive hit, not seen someone go head first into a tackle like that in quite some time!

Mako has looked really good this year, but each week Billy Vunipola is improving and looks like he's nailed the Wasps starting jersey down now too, keeps AJ as a no6 and Haskell as a no7. Reckon it wont be long before he' knocking on the England door.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:02 pm

It was actually legal for a change from Hala'ufia too.

Yeh Billy seems to be improving, reckon he just needs more game time at Wasps to keep fit and on top his game.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:06 pm

Never seen anyone hit Marler like that!

There was an article in one of the papers last week that said both Vunipola's went back to Tonga for 6 weeks over the summer and their dad said if they want to be top players then they pretty much have to change everything they do.

They did 4 weeks extra pre-season training and looks like the results are paying off big time. Mako lost 8kg of fat and put on 4kg of muscle. Think Billy V has lasted 80mins in every game he's played apart from against the Warriors as he hurt his wrist.

Hope they do develop more as could do with some more carriers in the England pack - what do people make of Attwood now, saw he made over 20 tackles against Exeter.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:17 pm

Attwood looked good. Solid player but unsure he would make the step up to international rugby.
Garvey made 21 tackles and 10/11 carries v Quins, was superb. Again whether he could do that at int. level is up for debate.

Morgan seemed to start well v Tigers and then fade out. Is his stamina still an issue?



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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:36 pm

I'd be hugely surprised if Mako started ahead of a fit Joe Marler. Has he made 10 AP starts yet?

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Post by prop_lyd Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:32 pm

Just seen the Hipkiss red card....pretty stupid thing to do really, so blatant.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:37 pm

prop who do you think will start at 3 for Wales?? Is there anyone not in the squad who could do a job?

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Post by prop_lyd Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:00 pm

If I'm honest I don't know.......Andrews seemed in pole position but has struggled recently, Jarvis has had a good season.

No bias here but I'd like to say Samson Lee but the lad's just come out of JWC rugby and, although he does ok at prem and h.c level he may struggle unless we go with a huge 2nd row!!

So it could be: Melon-Rees/Hibbard-Lee-AWJ-Davies-Tips-Warbs-Faletau with Rees/Hibbard-Bev-Jarvis-R.Jones-Charteris.

That could work!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:13 pm

I reckon they might consider switching Jenkins to 3 and stick Paul James at 1.

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Post by prop_lyd Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:16 pm

Forgot about James........not sure whether Melon should play loads at TH, hasn't done much time at TH for Toulon! I hope the youngsters get blooded in during this series as we need cover for Jones badly. Also, James can play TH too if needs be.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:07 pm

hearing Sale have sacked Redpath

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:09 pm

It's confirmed on BBC redpath gone

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:59 pm

Sale media man saying Redpath still at club. Perhaps a change in role?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:06 pm

Keep your paws off Richards Wink

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Post by prop_lyd Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:35 am

Anyone got an openside available for loan during the a.i's?
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