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Post by UlstermaninGlasgow Mon 15 Oct 2012, 9:38 pm

First topic message reminder :

So Glasgow Warriors open their home account in the Heineken Cup at their new home, Scotstoun, against the form team in Europe, Ulster Rugby.

Will the injuries suffered in their opening matches of the season be too much for them or will the steely defense that served them well all last season and much of the game against Saints prevail?

Or will the much vaunted and dangerous team that Ulster have been slowly evolving into over the past few years be too much for the Glasgow outfit.

Team news and pre-match build up to follow but it already seems like this could be one of the top encounters of the weekend with Scotstoun close to a sellout 10,000....

GLASGOW TEAM

15 Stuart Hogg
14 Byron McGuigan
13 Peter Murchie
12 Peter Horne
11 Alex Dunbar
10 Ruaridh Jackson
9 Henry Pyrgos

1 Ryan Grant
2 Dougie Hall
3 Mike Cusack
4 Tom Ryder
5 Al Kellock (CAPTAIN)
6 Josh Strauss
7 Chris Fusaro
8 Ryan Wilson

SUBSTITUTES 16 Finlay Gillies 17 Ofa Fainga’anuku 18 Gordon Reid 19 Tim Swinson 20 Rob Harley 21 John Barclay 22 Scott Wight 23 Niko Matawalu

ULSTER TEAM

(15-9): J Payne; T Bowe, D Cave, P Wallace, A Trimble; P Jackson, R Pienaar;

(1-8): T Court, R Best, J Afoa, J Muller (c), D Tuohy, I Henderson, C Henry, N Williams;

Replacements (16-23): R Herring, C Black, A Macklin, L Stevenson, M McComish, P Marshall, L Marshall, C Gilroy.


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Post by Rava Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:25 pm

George Carlin wrote:Ulster blindside lying sealing off right in front of the referee.

Ulster penalty.

I think if you look carefully Glasgow have been sealing off quite a bit all night and going in at the side.
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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:25 pm

Alright, another good rolling maul here please!

Feel like one try will win it either way. We've had the better chances and wasted them.
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Post by Cari Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:25 pm

Some riled players out there. Another infringement by Glasgow.

Pienaar goes for the corner.

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Post by Cari Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:27 pm

TMO decision coming....try from Henry there?

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:27 pm

Come on Henry!

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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:27 pm

Thats it thumbsup

We've ground away at them, we deserve that score. Well done the pack. Won the penalty with the maul then another great drive over the line.

Chris Henry MOTM so far.
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Post by Rava Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:27 pm

Nothing wrong with our rolling maul. Great score forwards.

Come onnnnnnn Ulssssstttttteeeeerrrrrr!!
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Post by mckay1402 Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:28 pm

drat. great drive by Ulster but Glasgow have had chances to get in front but lacked killer instinct. the scottish disease (other than heart)
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Post by Cari Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:28 pm

3 - 11 before conversion.

Well done Henry!

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Post by GLove39 Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:28 pm

So after 60 odd minutes its
Glasgow Royal Infirmary XV 3 - 13 Ulster

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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:29 pm

Good to see big Lewis Stevenson come on, he's had a storming season.
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Post by Cari Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:29 pm

3 - 13 after 62 minutes.

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:29 pm

We haven't deserved that try to be honest, we haven't played well and created nothing. That said if anyone deserved a try for his efforts then it should be Henry. By quite some distance the form 7 in Irish rugby at the moment.

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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:31 pm

mckay1402 wrote:drat. great drive by Ulster but Glasgow have had chances to get in front but lacked killer instinct. the scottish disease (other than heart)

To be fair, I'd say Ulster have also lacked that killer instinct. Until now we've not made 20 minutes of possession and territory count.

Hope Jackson can add 3 more now... he does! Now what do Glasgow have? They need a try.
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Post by Cari Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:31 pm

3 - 16 at 64:00 minutes following Jackson's penalty.

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Post by GLove39 Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:31 pm

3-16, game over and Heineken Cup campaign over for Glasgow. Shame the 6,194 at Scotstourn deserve better

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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:32 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:We haven't deserved that try to be honest, we haven't played well and created nothing. That said if anyone deserved a try for his efforts then it should be Henry. By quite some distance the form 7 in Irish rugby at the moment.

Disagree. We've dominated possession and territory. It's not been a night for flowing rugby, we've ground them down.

Great scrum Glasgow clap

Can't believe some people think they've an average scrum Rolling Eyes
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Post by George Carlin Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:32 pm

Anyone still think that Glasgow isn't a good scrummaging side?
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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:35 pm

Notch wrote:
Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:We haven't deserved that try to be honest, we haven't played well and created nothing. That said if anyone deserved a try for his efforts then it should be Henry. By quite some distance the form 7 in Irish rugby at the moment.

Disagree. We've dominated possession and territory. It's not been a night for flowing rugby, we've ground them down.

Great scrum Glasgow clap

Can't believe some people think they've an average scrum Rolling Eyes

Until the last five minutes we had all the possession and did nothing with it. We got into position and then gave the ball away and had to start all over again. It's 'domination' in some regards, but not good enough without the finished product.

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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:36 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:
Until the last five minutes we had all the possession and did nothing with it. We got into position and then gave the ball away and had to start all over again. It's 'domination' in some regards, but not good enough without the finished product.

Agreed, but you can hardly say we don't deserve it when the pack do deliver that finished product!

Glasgow coming back strongly. Ooh, indiscipline. This is big danger.
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Post by Rava Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:38 pm

For all Glasgow pressure Ulsters defence has been very secure.
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Post by George Carlin Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:39 pm

Jackson's execution has been absolutely woeful tonight.

The only backline player with any dog or consistency has been Hogg.

Terribly underpowered backline, but then again, we knew that. Just thinking of the difference in the wet that Cusiter, the Lamonts and DTH would have made. picard
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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:40 pm

We've done a great job of isolating Glasgows ball carriers and forcing the penalty tonight clap
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:40 pm

George Carlin wrote:Anyone still think that Glasgow isn't a good scrummaging side?

I think Dowlais was just trying to have a dig at Ulster (he does it with every irish side) rather than truly trying to claim that Glasgow aren't a good scrummaging team.

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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:41 pm

The Glasgow attack has been standing far too deep all night, the outside channels are taking the ball well behind the advantage line.
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Post by Rava Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:44 pm

At last a bit of ascendency from Ulster. Great choice for MOM. I was just thinking how well Best had performed. Well done Paddy Jackson.
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Post by TJ1 Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:45 pm

George Carlin wrote:Jackson's execution has been absolutely woeful tonight.

The only backline player with any dog or consistency has been Hogg.

Terribly underpowered backline, but then again, we knew that. Just thinking of the difference in the wet that Cusiter, the Lamonts and DTH would have made. picard

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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:45 pm

This is a very good result if we can deny them any kind of losing bonus point or consolation score. We've choked them, squeezed them and they've been unable to get a purchase in the second half. We want to play an expansive game but we need to be able to keep it tight on nights like this.

I think Chris Henry should be man of the match for sure but Best has been back to his most powerful form in the loose.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:47 pm

Very good play by Glasgow there.

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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:47 pm

picard

Lack of concentration Ulster. Carelessness. Need to be more focused for the full 80 in future games. Good try Glasgow!
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Post by Rava Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:48 pm

Good score Glasgow.
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Post by Cari Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:48 pm

Great try for Glasgow.

8 - 19 converson missed.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:48 pm

Gilroy should have focused on the ball rather than the player there. Not great defence from him.

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Post by Rava Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:50 pm

Good score Glasgow.
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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:50 pm

Good win, deserved- important to deny Glasgow the LBP.

So after two games the pool looks like;

Ulster 9
Saints 6
Castres 4
Glasgow 0
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Post by George Carlin Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:51 pm

Ulster's defence and breakdown have won this for them.

They didn't have many chances but have made far, far fewer mistakes.

At least it's traditional in Glasgow to have your chips early.

We've had ours in the Heineken this year already.
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Post by Cari Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:52 pm

FT 8 - 19.

Well done lads. clap

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:52 pm

Sky Sports verdict on the match in Castres "It remained tight throughout." No it didn't, Northampton were completely outplayed and devoid of ideas after having their illegal scrum technique nullified. Ulster still my bet to top this pool.
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Post by Rava Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:52 pm

Saints with a LBP. Good result for Ulster. Settle for 9 from two and take it to Northampton in December.
















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Post by Artful_Dodger Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:53 pm

Great result for Ulster against a Glasgow team who are notoriously difficult to break down.

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Post by Notch Fri 19 Oct 2012, 9:57 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:Great result for Ulster against a Glasgow team who are notoriously difficult to break down.

Thats it, with the weather and the opposition I feared the worst. But in the end we out Glasgowed Glasgow. The winning of the game was in our breakdown work, the penalties and turnovers we won there.
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Post by rodders Fri 19 Oct 2012, 10:07 pm

Poor performance but great result. Good game from Best but my MOTM would have been either Jackson or the superlative Chris Henry. Pienaar's tactical kicking kept us in the game in the first half but his distribution was a bit sloppy and labored at times. Overall delighted though to get a great away win in tough conditions.

Very impressed with Glasgows pack, they definitely had the edge in the scrum. The scoreline probably was harsh on them and with a better place kicker they could well have nicked that.

Can't wait until the Saints games. SUFTUM.

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 19 Oct 2012, 10:09 pm

Saints played like mouldy bread in France tonight, and yet could have won (probably undeservedly). Another poor performance. No real go forwards in the first half at all. Some of that was Castres, but some was Saints doing it to themselves. Ryan Lamb had a very poor performance. Had to be kept in the pivot because Myler was needed at fullback with Foden and Wilson injured. No other choices. Couldn't switch Myler and Lamb because Lamb can't tackle. I wanted to get Paul Grayson off the coaching lines and into the match for Lamb.

After the Castres scored the try with Brian Mujati in the bin, Saints got some wind in their sails. Had the better of play for the last 30, but that doesn't make up for the first 50. Castres barely stopped a couple of potential Saints breakaway tries.

And the match ended with Saints inside Castres 22 on a slightly, and un-needed forward pass with the line in view. Very small differences at the end.................

As I have said all season, Saints biggest problem is the inability to play for a full 80. Will be their Achilles Heel. And that told tonight.

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 19 Oct 2012, 10:12 pm

You're a Saints fan?
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Post by doctor_grey Fri 19 Oct 2012, 10:19 pm

yes.
can I sell you a Lamb? cheap.

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 19 Oct 2012, 10:21 pm

Well if he is as bad a shag as he is at playing rugby, no.
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Post by doctor_grey Fri 19 Oct 2012, 10:26 pm

Morgannwg wrote:Well if he is as bad a shag as he is at playing rugby, no.
errr. have no info about that. Should I inquire about the village?

Frankly his problem is decision making really.
I am not sure how he is able to get home every day. Bread crumbs, I suppose.

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Post by MrsP Fri 19 Oct 2012, 11:09 pm

Thanks for the summary Grey.

You aren't heading over for the double header in December are you? Too early for a Christmas trip home?

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Post by Standulstermen Fri 19 Oct 2012, 11:37 pm

Only one team going to win that game in the 2nd half. Massive respect to Glasgow for their efforts in adversity but they weren't in i the 2nd half. Fair play to ulster for squeezing them out but another error strewn performance. Tommy was Really solid I thought as well but Chris Henry was, by some distance, the best player on show out there

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Post by rodders Fri 19 Oct 2012, 11:41 pm

Yup I concur stand, Henry just gets better and better. Excellent stuff from him tonight again.
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