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Saracens move off the bottom of the table after picking up a losing bonus point against Gloucester.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:32 pm

He (Carter) needed a big game. He was well below part when I saw him in rc

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:36 pm

Just catching up on the Irelanc vs Saffer game. 10 mins in and jeez the Ireland lineout is poor.

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Post by Driver Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:19 pm

Clermount vs toulon is a cracker

Cotzea smashing sheridan in the scrum, king just tore through toulon to scire
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Post by dammit_chris Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:21 pm

Accurate ratings for England?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/9669515/England-v-Fiji-12-player-ratings.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:47 am

Pocock out of England clash

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:19 am

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3555_8245529,00.html

Lol, can't see it myself...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:41 am

It must have been took out of context but funny anyway

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:58 pm

That is genius. How moore is not in front of TPN

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:44 pm

"We are confident we can dominate the English scrum."

Context or no context.....

Likes of Moore, Barnes, Samo made a big impact last week. Expect them all to start.

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Post by Driver Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:58 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20315849


Think you need to have a chat with Digby Ioane Pete , bloke seems to have the hots for Chris Ashton....
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:03 pm

He's obviously been playing with Kurtley Beale too long if he thinks Ashton is pretty

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Post by Driver Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:07 pm

Explains why he knocks out them awful dance moves when he scores as well.


The Telegraph have a page up about what the Austrailian media are saying about the England game and how worried they are about the England scrum , last time we played them at Twickenham we didn't even dominate the scrum and put 30 points on them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/australia/9674706/England-v-Australia-what-press-Down-Under-are-saying-ahead-of-the-autumn-international-clash-at-Twickenham.html
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:13 pm

This is one of the weakest squads/teams to visit HQ for a while. Can never underestimate Aus(they've just drew with NZ) but I fancy us to win.

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Post by Driver Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:20 pm

I'm going to have to record it and watch it when i get in as i'm at the Newcastle - Swansea game.

Watched the Fiji game today when i got in and my word Alex Goode looks like he's had 30 caps at 15.

Lad has so much more in his locker than Saracens let on.

Sharples looked tidy on the wing but still needs to come off his wing a bit more , no one does that any where near as well as Ashton does.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:26 pm

I'm moving house so will prob miss everything with no Internet Sad

Not sure we can play both Ashton/Sharples with both right wingers, Ashton prob more likely to switch??

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Post by Driver Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:31 pm

White house won't have it on either will they? Didn't have sky in when it was the SA series.

I think you could as Ashton would do a lot of the link up stuff with Sharples there to finish things off , would have to be Goode at 15 though as need the top 2 inchs to keep things right.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:35 pm

Dickson, Dowson and more interestingly Lawes released by England

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Post by Driver Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:37 pm

Was hoping it would be Palmer , but would be better for Lawes to get a full 80 for Saints than 20 for England.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:43 pm

Can only be fitness related, I wonder if SL would Launchbury?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:58 pm

Monye released too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:06 pm

Ashton/Sharples it is then

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:08 pm

"It is tough on Ugo, who misses out this time, but Chris [Ashton] has been excellent in training and Charlie is rewarded for his performance at the weekend."


Don't see there being any other changes.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:12 pm

Probably not Luke.

11. Ashton
14. Sharples
15. Goode
23. Brown

Could be immense.

That's 2 serious finishers with Goode getting them in space, I'm excited!

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:15 pm

Pooly there are quite a few articles today saying that Launchbury is starting for us on Saturday, dont think he would have done if SA or NZ though.

Pretty sure that Lawes just went to just be around the training sessions, I dont think he's ready for Saints this weekend.

Sharples said on Sunday/Monday that he was looking to move wings, so assume Ashton slots back in on normal wing and it's Sharples who will move across.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:35 pm

I would start Launchbury but not sure SL will. If Palmer starts he needs a big game.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:01 pm

I find Palmer a bit of an odd player, he can put in world class performances, but then can go very average - never lets England down but just a shame he isnt consistently world class. Hopefully Launchbury will really benefit from being involved this early with England, think he could become top class.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:11 pm

It's been a long while since Palmer put in a top performance, probably against Aus 2 years ago ironically.

He had a poor season for Stade last year and just hasn't been looking anywhere near as good as he did for Wasps when Ive seen him.

Time to move on.

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:55 pm

Palmer had a good wc and forced his way back in. Sharples plays left wing often for glos

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Post by prop_lyd Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:04 pm

Good result for Glos tonight Matt; gutted I didn't go now!!
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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:35 pm

Palmer has done pretty well for Wasps when I've seen him this year, does a heck of a lot of unseen work, but there are games he plays when he looks incredible and if he did it week in week out he'd be one of the best around.

See Tigers beat NZ Maori today - shame it wasn't on the box, sounded like a great game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:48 am

anonmattyt wrote:Palmer had a good wc and forced his way back in. Sharples plays left wing often for glos

That was over a year ago!! Lol

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:50 am

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-news/2012/11/14/sam-warburton-dropped-for-wales-v-samoa-reports-91466-32229504/

Big rumours Warburton has been dropped

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:35 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Palmer had a good wc and forced his way back in. Sharples plays left wing often for glos

That was over a year ago!! Lol

Been good for wasps this year whenever i have seen them play also

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:38 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-news/2012/11/14/sam-warburton-dropped-for-wales-v-samoa-reports-91466-32229504/

Big rumours Warburton has been dropped


IS this dropped or just rested. Samoa are not very good and it may be a game where wales rest a few.


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Post by stnick88 Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:48 am

Dropped. They cant afford to rest players after the performance they put in v Argentina. They need to bounce back. Samoa are no mugs. I fancy an upset. Tusi Pisi looks quality and apparently Sa was quite handy too. Him and Roberts could have some big collisions.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:06 am

How does it work if I want to sign someone who is elligble for another team's academy?
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Post by stnick88 Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:29 am

think you have to ask that teams manager and bid.

who you after?

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:38 am

Tusa Pisi is a top 10 always has been. He was probably best 10 at last wc

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:49 am

I think you should just bid on him. If he isn't named and wasn't born after 92 then surely he its fair game

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:13 pm

Warbs and Scott williams dropped then

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:14 pm

Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Ashley Beck, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 George North, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Toby Faletau, 7 Justin Tipuric, 6 Ryan Jones (capt), 5 Ian Evans, 4 Bradley Davies, 3 Aaron Jarvis, 2 Richard Hibbard, 1 Paul James.
Replacements: 16 Ken Owens, 17 Gethin Jenkins, 18 Scott Andrews, 19 Luke Charteris, 20 Sam Warburton, 21 Tavis Knoyle, 22 Rhys Priestland, 23 Scott Williams.

A lot of the senior players not playing.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:22 pm

Warburton one of 8 changes.

Yet he is the only one to be dropped. Strange that.

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:28 pm

Like i said earlier Steve i imagined Wales would rest players in this game. Lots of bigger fish to fry

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:29 pm

I would be surprised if he doesn't play in bigger games.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:46 pm

I think thats the strongest side Wales can put out.

Warbs, Jenkins, Priestland, Knoyle, Rees, AWJ, Roberts were pretty poor tbh.

Warburton gets the headlines because he's the captiain. Big call dropping your captain, can't be doing much for the teams or Warburtons morale.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:58 pm

I'm very happy with that squad!! Picked the form players and this should get us a good result!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:07 pm

I think Samoa have a great chance

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:15 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:I think Samoa have a great chance

Hopefully. Come on Samoa!!

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Post by stnick88 Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:26 pm

What time is the game and what channel?

just read a stat on bbc website, reckons tipuric only has 2 turnovers in pro 12 this year whilst warburton has 12. i would of thought it to be the other way round.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:42 pm

You sure it's not "turned over" rather than turn overs Nick? Warbs carries more than Tipuric so would make sense.

Wales won't lose this one.

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