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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 09 Nov 2012, 9:19 am

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Saracens move off the bottom of the table after picking up a losing bonus point against Gloucester.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
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2008/2009 - London Irish






POS Aviva PremiershipPLAYEDWONDREWLOST P F P A P D T F T A TBP LBP POINTS
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2 Homepage - Page 5 7Harlequins1070 3 251 231 +20 27 24 1 3 32
3 Homepage - Page 5 8Newcastle Falcons1070 3 250 228 +22 25 19 0 3 31
4 Homepage - Page 5 5London Irish10 6 0 4 259 239 +20 28 24 2 4 30
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6 Homepage - Page 5 2Gloucester1060 4 246 237 +9 27 25 0 3 27
7 Homepage - Page 5 12Sale Sharks10 5 0 5 252 242 +10 27 25 1 5 26
8 Homepage - Page 5 1Bath Rugby1040 6 229 245 -16 21 27 0 5 21
9 Homepage - Page 5 50London Welsh10 3 1 6 224 232 -8 22 22 0 6 20
10 Homepage - Page 5 6London Wasps 1020 8 211 244 -33 19 27 0 7 15
11 Homepage - Page 5 11Saracens1021 7 208 255 -47 18 28 0 414
12 Homepage - Page 5 57Worcester Warriors1021 7 216 257 -41 19 27 0 3 13






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by CJB Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:37 pm

Can I check, do games such as

Georgia v Japan or Wolfhounds v Fiji have an effect?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:38 pm

Simmons banned till Feb.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 6:33 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Warburton one of 8 changes.

Yet he is the only one to be dropped. Strange that.

Pretty sure it's a dropping Steve. I hope it's just a blip as I have him on other game and the lads are slating him!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 14 Nov 2012, 6:48 pm

CJB wrote:Can I check, do games such as

Georgia v Japan or Wolfhounds v Fiji have an effect?

All full international matches count. The Fiji game is not technically against the Wolfhounds, it is officially an 'Ireland XV'. The reason for this is that it is being played at TP and therefore cannot be billed as Ireland due to the IRFU sining a contract to lay all 'Ireland' matches at the Aviva. This is at TP as the they cannot sell out the Aviva for it. My point in short is that yes, this game counts also.
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Post by CJB Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:34 pm

Georgia v Japan?

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:37 pm

Good little video

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/sportvideo/rugbyvideo/9675070/British-and-Irish-Lions-XV-v-Australia-in-2013-Will-Greenwood-v-readers.html

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:54 pm

CJB wrote:Georgia v Japan?

Yes, it is a full international.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 8:25 pm

Have you got a Will Greenwood poster Chris? Wink

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 14 Nov 2012, 8:49 pm

Right so means i'm screwed in backrow for this sat seeing as I'm guessing Gorgodze is called up!!
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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:06 pm

If players are not in an international 22 can they play. I have Arno Botha the springbok back row youngster who may get a few midweek games and a bit of test bench. If allowed prop you can borrow him plays 6 or 8 best

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:13 pm

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,9817_8248250,00.html


How is that a week. Usually stamp on head is
Minimum 16 weeks to keep it from happening. Used to be a year when I started playing if sent off for.

Should have been as much as Simmons. Ab's always get away with it

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:22 pm

Agree Matt, really bad

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:32 pm

I agree it should have been a lot..........I got 7 weeks for a 'mild' stamp on the leg.......no consistency!!

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:43 pm

Stamp on leg fine. In every club in England used to be a tariff for foul play. Head was a year assaulting ref verbal or physical life ban.

Awful decisionF

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 14 Nov 2012, 10:23 pm

Stephen Jones made me laugh on twitter tonight when he said if an All Black took a gun on the pitch and shot someone he'd be unlucky if he got a 3 week ban. Amazed he got one week for that.

Pooly I've got a Greenwood shrine in my cupboard and all his articles are cut out and act as wall paper throughout my house!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 10:32 pm

Haha...I bet you've got a Greenwood blowup for them special times

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 14 Nov 2012, 11:09 pm

It's decisions like that that make me glad I follow EFS on twitter!! Some of his tweets are class!!
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 14 Nov 2012, 11:45 pm

My family disowned me after finding that doll under my bed a few years ago...shame really.

EFS is like the rugby version of Joey Barton on twitter!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 15 Nov 2012, 9:17 am

New Zealand: Barrett, Gear, Smith, Nonu, Savea, Cruden, Smith, Read, Cane, Messam, Retallick, Williams, Faumuina, Mealamu, Woodcock.

Replacements: Coles, Crockett, Franks, Whitelock, Vito, Kerr-Barlow, Carter, Jane.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 15 Nov 2012, 9:29 am

Pretty poor bench from N.Z there....no impact Wink
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Post by Driver Thu 15 Nov 2012, 10:16 am

Australia team: 15-Berrick Barnes, 14-Digby Ioane, 13-Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12-Ben Tapuai, 11-Nick Cummins, 10-Kurtley Beale, 9-Nick Phipps; 8-Wycliff Palu, 7-Michael Hooper, 6-Dave Dennis, 5-Nathan Sharpe (captain), 4-Sitaleki Timani, 3-Ben Alexander, 2-Tatafu Polota Nau, 1-Benn Robinson.

Replacements: 16-Stephen Moore, 17-James Slipper, 18-Sekope Kepu, 19-Radike Samo, 20-Liam Gill, 21-Brett Sheehan, 22-Mike Harris, 23-Drew Mitchell.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 15 Nov 2012, 10:19 am

Flood, Palmer and Cole the top caps holders in England side. See why Palmer has got the nod. Can't lack that much experience in a pack I don't think

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 15 Nov 2012, 10:24 am

Is Palmer starting Steve?

I read Launchbury and Wood would start this morning

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 15 Nov 2012, 10:31 am

Ashton the only change Pooly.

Wood and Launchbury on the bench.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 15 Nov 2012, 10:31 am

Timani, Alexander and Ioane playing for Australia scuppers my plans for my side this week!!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 15 Nov 2012, 10:35 am

I think it'll be a close one, there's no mugs in that Aus side.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 15 Nov 2012, 11:27 am

Completely agree Pooly. I think we will squeak home in the end, but this Aus side will come out fighting after getting munched last week.
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 15 Nov 2012, 11:31 am

Is McCabe injured or dropped?
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Post by Driver Thu 15 Nov 2012, 11:36 am

England team to face Australia: Alex Goode (Saracens, 3 caps); Chris Ashton (Saracens, 26 caps), Manusamoa Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 14 caps), Brad Barritt (Saracens, 8 caps), Charlie Sharples (Gloucester Rugby, 3 caps); Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers, 51 caps), Danny Care (Harlequins, 34 caps); Joe Marler (Harlequins, 4 caps), Tom Youngs, (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 32 caps), Tom Palmer (London Wasps, 41 caps), Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers, 9 caps), Tom Johnson, (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt, 9 caps), Thomas Waldrom (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps).

Replacements: David Paice (London Irish, 3 caps), David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 20 caps), Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 1 cap), Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 1 cap), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 10 caps), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 25 caps), Owen Farrell (Saracens, 9 caps), Mike Brown (Harlequins, 8 caps).
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Post by Guest Thu 15 Nov 2012, 11:52 am

We have picked the right side for the game. It will be tight as anything. Aussies will be wounded

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:54 pm

Samoa: Autagavaia; Perez, G. Pisi, Williams, Lemi (capt.); T. Pisi, Fotuali’i; Taulafo, Avei, Johnston; Leo, Paulo; Treviranus, Fa’asavalu, Tui’fua.

Replacements: Paulo, Afatia, J. Johnston, Fomai, Su’a, Leota, Lilomaiava.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 15 Nov 2012, 1:03 pm

Wheres the bloke who scored 4 tries? And so Sa either.

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Post by Guest Thu 15 Nov 2012, 1:09 pm

They have gone with their big guns nick. Paul Williams is a star player for them as is George Pisi.

different type of game. Fasivalu back in also.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 15 Nov 2012, 1:23 pm

It will be a good game. Won't see it live which I am dissappointed by.


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Post by CJB Thu 15 Nov 2012, 6:42 pm

Anyone got a prop I can loan this weekend?

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 15 Nov 2012, 7:31 pm

You can have Tomas if you want fella Ok!
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 15 Nov 2012, 10:41 pm

Was this cited in the AB game?

http://www.rugbydump.com/2012/11/2855/all-black-tamati-ellison-arm-grabbing-with-scotlands-ryan-grant

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:44 am

Ireland game a non-Int apparently so Irish/Fijian players available??

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:54 am

Lads can I put it out there early on....go easy on the Welsh guy tonight please....use to have the confidence we'd win these sorts or games....
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:10 am

You'll win Prop

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:14 am

I reckon it'll be a 5-10 point win.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:19 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Ireland game a non-Int apparently so Irish/Fijian players available??

We had this question a couple of days ago. No they are not available.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:23 am

Must have missed it, no dramas

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:26 am

I think it might have been on the match thread, think it was CJB who raised the question.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 16 Nov 2012, 11:50 am

Anyone fancy a little sweepstake? No prize of course just as a bit of fun.

Wales v Samoa - Wales by 10.
Italy v NZ - NZ by 40.
England v Oz - England by 15
Scotland v SA - SA by 25.
France v Argentina - France by 5

Star of the weekend - Ruan Pienaar

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 16 Nov 2012, 12:01 pm

Wales v Samoa - Wales by 7
Italy v NZ - NZ by 30
England v Oz - England by 7
Scotland v SA - SA by 15
France v Argentina - France by 15

Star of the weekend - Chrish Ashton Wink

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 12:01 pm

Wales by 7
NZ by 30
Eng by 3
Scot by 4
France by 6

Player of round: Denton
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Post by stnick88 Fri 16 Nov 2012, 12:29 pm

Samoa by 5
NZ by 35
England by 8
SA by 12
France by 9

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 16 Nov 2012, 12:33 pm

Just read an interesting fact Fulgence Quedragao made more tackles then any player for a top 10 ranked international side last weekend...

Wales v Samoa - Wales by 5
Italy v NZ - NZ by 25
England v Oz - England by 10
Scotland v SA - SA by 15
France v Argentina - France by 10

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 16 Nov 2012, 1:01 pm

Off to Paris till Monday gents, won't be around.

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