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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 09 Nov 2012, 9:19 am

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Saracens move off the bottom of the table after picking up a losing bonus point against Gloucester.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Nov 2012, 1:05 pm

Holiday again!!!

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Nov 2012, 1:09 pm

If you are off with the bird LLL look out for ile de st louis its a little island in the centre of france. not that touristy and really good place to go

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 16 Nov 2012, 1:17 pm

Cheers bud. Yeh it's her 30th.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 16 Nov 2012, 1:20 pm

Pretty sure my last holiday was April, Pooly!

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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 3:47 pm

Terrible news at just the age of 29...

http://www.espnscrum.com/other/rugby/story/173138.html

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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:13 pm

Wales need a flyer at 13 to work for me.

Roberts is a one trick pony for me now , just seem to lack fizz in there backs.

12.Davies
13.Hook

Could be the way they have to go...
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:14 pm

The problem with Hook is that he drifts....I watched him play at 13 (against baa-baa's I think) and he just shut out all of the back three.
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:18 pm

But who else could you play there to give them that fizz? I can't see them converting Halfpenny to it.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:20 pm

JD??

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:22 pm

JD2 and as I said............North?? Beck's one to watch...will be interesting to see how he does if we get quick ball
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:36 pm

Watching Prop? Whistle

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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:38 pm

Tui'fua charging through
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:40 pm

Huge hit on hibbard from tui'fua!
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:43 pm

Yep I'm watching....would like the samoan's to make an effort with their arms in the tackle
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:09 pm

Wales don't look like Scoring at all besides that intercept....
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:11 pm

Tui'fua has made 8 carries so far , been best player on the pitch this half.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:12 pm

Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaboooooom happy with that. But did have beck as 1st try scorer annoyingly!!

Driver, were you typing that as he got the intercept?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:15 pm

Ohhhfffttttt that was some clear out on Biggar!

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:16 pm

Don't like the look he gave him after that hit......no need at all.
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:17 pm

I was tryping that , i actually just finished the word scoring. Laugh

Samoa smashing Wales in the contact. Bigger is having a nightmare , just kicks everything away. mind you Welsh front 5 have been poor.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:18 pm

Got anything positive to say Driver? Wink
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:20 pm

If you watch...the hit on Hibbard and the hit on Biggar....there's no effort with the arms.

3 silly pens from R.J
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:20 pm

About Samoa Run


Surprised no has signed Paul Williams on here. Really good 12/13/15.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:25 pm

View from Wales:
*Phillips looks a bit keen,
*Roberts not being used enough but is breaking the gainline,
*Front 5 need to be a bit stronger,
*no more silly pens anymore,
*play tight rugby...pick an go,
*play dirty rugby...wind up the samoan's especially the 9,
*contest more at the breakdown,
*stop looking up before tackles.

1/2p looks pretty steady as does Cuthbert, we need players to make a bit more impact and not get sucked into their game and we will win, it's not going to be pretty but it will do the job.
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:31 pm

I think Wales are too predictable now , teams have sussed them a bit.

Where North came round the tail and Fasa was there he panicked because the Samoan knew how to mark him.

Brad Davies is getting through some graft out there , be intresting to see how him and Charteris go 2nd half.

Miss Adam Jones big style.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:34 pm

Yeah, fair play to Jarvis he isn't having a shocking game but Jones makes a make.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:37 pm

Jiffy getting a bit carried away.
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:38 pm

If Johnathan Davies opened his eyes , he might be a half decent pundit. He's the Welsh Austin Healy.

Phillips has played well , keeps the tempo high. I signed Lloyd Williams thinking he would be a star for Wales but being in a poor Blues team seems to halted his progress.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:41 pm

WHAT IS THE POINT WITH PRIESTLAND?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:41 pm

He deserves the try just for the finish alone!
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:42 pm

Good finish.
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:43 pm

prop_lyd wrote:WHAT IS THE POINT WITH PRIESTLAND?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's stuck in a rut at the moment , lacks form above all else. Talented player but once again i'd have went Hook on the bench over him.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:45 pm

Tips is struggling to get into this game too......need him to get a few turnovers but Samoa are doing well and keeping him quiet.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:50 pm

That is shocking from Priestland!

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:51 pm

Get Stev-o back!!
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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:52 pm

Laugh


Welsh fans wish they had Owen Farrell!
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:52 pm

Laugh

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:54 pm

Haha nah Driver...we'll leave him for Scotland!!
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:59 pm

Arm round throat and a slam ............................. defend that
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:00 pm

Heeeerrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss MELON!!
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:20 pm

I give up............................
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:26 pm

Ok Welsh ratings:

James-did ok, did his job-6
Hibbard-unfortunately injured but doing ok-6
Jarvis-started well but got tired-6
Evans-didn't see him-5
Davies-Silly pens but carried ok-5
R.Jones-Silly pens-5
Tips-Didn't get into match-5
Faletau-Was he playing?-4
Phillips-Injected pace-6
Biggar-Did well before cruelly taken out-6
Cuthbert-Not used but not exploited-5
Roberts-Actually made tackles unlike the others-7
Beck-Only appeared for his try-6
North-Carried strongly-6
1/2P-Ran well, did well, shame at the end-8

Owens-Best player for Wales tonight-8
Jenkins-Silly penalty-4
Bevs-Not enough time
Charteris-Shored up lineout-5
Warburton-No impact-5
Priestland-Last game in Welsh jersey-3


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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:30 pm

I'd give Halfpenny a 8 tbf Prop , was fighting a losing battle for most of the game.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:31 pm

If he got an 8 I'd give Owens an 8 too...will edit...was torn between 7-8 for them.

What do you reckon about the others?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:32 pm

Jenkins was very poor coming on. The move to Toulon has done nothing for him except increase his bank balance.

Hook is the form the Welsh 10 and should be starting now. Biggar did alright before the injury but was nothing more then solid. The thing your missing the most though is Gatland. Just don't think Howley has anywhere near enough experience for the job.

Very impressed with the Samoa 9. Always looked classy at the Crusaders. Big fan

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:35 pm

Yeah Gatland is back this week I think..........we just didn't have any shape or direction.
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Post by stnick88 Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:21 pm

Told you Samoa would win!

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:24 pm

Sale beat Sarries
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Post by dammit_chris Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:36 pm

Wish I put more than £2 on Samoa beating Wales by 5+

Great work by the BBC to get the highlights up so quickly too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20346746

Think Wales have been sussed out with their tactics, only player for me who would get into the Lions starting lineup would be Halfpenny - honestly didnt think Wales would lose though!

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Post by Driver Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:40 pm

Tui'fuia ripped it up at 8
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