World Rugby Rankings

by Portnoy's Complaint Fri 16 Nov 2012, 6:35 pm

First topic message reminder :

Current World Rankings

IRB Rankings at
http://www.worldrugby.org/rankings#mru

Fixtures according to http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/fixtures/_/league/180659/

Best odds for each result category from a range of bookies as at http://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/six-nations

Code:: Saturday, March 18 Scotland v Italy 12:30 PM -- BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh sco (on 82.18 points) at home -vs- ita (on 71.17 points) If sco win by 1-15 points 0.000 82.18 71.17 No If sco win by more than 15 0.000 82.18 71.17 No If result is a draw 1.000 81.18 72.17 No If ita win by 1-15 points 2.000 80.18 73.17 No If ita win by more than 15 3.000 79.18 74.17 No Scotland (1/16) Draw (66/1) Italy (15/1) France v Wales 2:45 PM -- Stade de France, Saint-Denis fra (on 81.21 points) at home -vs- wal (on 82.16 points) If fra win by 1-15 points 0.795 82.00 81.36 Yes If fra win by more than 15 1.193 82.40 80.97 Yes If result is a draw 0.205 81.00 82.36 No If wal win by 1-15 points 1.205 80.00 83.36 No If wal win by more than 15 1.807 79.40 83.97 No France (8/13) 14:45TV France (8/13) Draw (25/1) Wales (13/8) Ireland v England 5:00 PM -- Aviva Stadium, Dublin ire (on 83.18 points) at home -vs- eng (on 91.02 points) If ire win by 1-15 points 1.484 84.66 89.54 No If ire win by more than 15 2.226 85.41 88.79 No If result is a draw 0.484 83.66 90.54 No If eng win by 1-15 points 0.516 82.66 91.54 No If eng win by more than 15 0.774 82.41 91.79 No Ireland (6/4) Draw (25/1) England (9/13)

Original thread:
https://www.606v2.com/t12724p950-irb-world-rankings-part-1

Sources:
Fixtures : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/fixtures/4776295.stm
IRB Rankings : http://www.espn.co.uk/scrum/rugby/match/fixtures/international.html
Rankings explanation : http://www.irb.com/rankings/explain/index.html
Rankings archive : http://www.irb.com/rankings/archive/index.html
Fixtures : http://www.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/current/match/scores/recent.html

Online calculator (Courtesy of Robbo277 (thanks)) : http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php#hrh

by mystiroakey Sat 15 Jun 2013, 8:54 am

Have wales been tonked by the great japan Very Happy

I shouldnt laff

by Portnoy's Complaint Sat 15 Jun 2013, 3:08 pm

A serious loss for Italy.

+- placings based on current official table.

Will update predicted table later.
New OP

by Portnoy's Complaint Sun 16 Jun 2013, 7:48 am

Net changes so far as I see:
Fra 5 +1
Wal 6 -1
Sco 10 +1
Ita 11 -1

by Taffineastbourne Sun 16 Jun 2013, 8:43 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Have wales been tonked by the great japan

I shouldnt laf

Perhapsvwhen your side achieve what Japan managed you may allow yourself a wry grin!

by Portnoy's Complaint Mon 24 Jun 2013, 3:53 pm

Looks like England will be #3 before the AIs - without playing a game.

by kiakahaaotearoa Mon 24 Jun 2013, 3:54 pm

Surprising to see the Lions haven't made the top ten after their win...

by ChequeredJersey Mon 24 Jun 2013, 8:51 pm

greytiger wrote:Looks like England will be #3 before the AIs - without playing a game.

Why? Don't ever write off Aus. They could lose the Lions Tour easily and still turn over any of the 4N sides in any given match

by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 25 Jun 2013, 7:18 am

England could be #3 now CJ had this Lions nonsense clogged up the schedule.

by Portnoy's Complaint Wed 26 Jun 2013, 7:57 am

Next round of games affecting the sharp end - 17 August.
OP updated

by **LondonTiger** Thu 11 Jul 2013, 7:54 am

There is something wrong with the rankings.

Wales have not moved, despite thrashing Australia Run

by Duty281 Mon 19 Aug 2013, 4:51 pm

England 3rd in the world then. A victory for consistency.

by Portnoy's Complaint Mon 19 Aug 2013, 6:38 pm

New OP.

Come on you Argies!

Desperate innit after a right royal stuffing? Wink

by mystiroakey Wed 21 Aug 2013, 10:46 am

England 3rd

Yahoo

I knew we would do it

by Portnoy's Complaint Mon 26 Aug 2013, 8:00 pm

New OP

England need to remain really focussed whilst sitting anxiously on their arses this week to retain 3rd spot...

by blackcanelion Wed 28 Aug 2013, 12:39 am

Big loss to NZ and Big win by SA will see the bok's jump the AB's into no 1.

by Portnoy's Complaint Wed 28 Aug 2013, 11:42 am

blackcanelion wrote:Big loss to NZ and Big win by SA will see the bok's jump the AB's into no 1.

And pigs will fly...

by **Biltong** Wed 28 Aug 2013, 11:47 am

Portnoy's Complaint wrote:
blackcanelion wrote:Big loss to NZ and Big win by SA will see the bok's jump the AB's into no 1.
And pigs will fly...

And pigs will NEVER fly.

by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 28 Aug 2013, 11:48 am

But they will score if they ask enough drunk men.

by blackcanelion Wed 28 Aug 2013, 11:52 pm

Could we please have a flying pig emoticon. I could use it in about evry second post.

by maestegmafia Sat 07 Sep 2013, 1:56 pm

England could make second if SA get pasted by the ABs...!

by Cyril Sat 07 Sep 2013, 11:48 pm

maestegmafia wrote:England could make second if SA get pasted by the ABs...!

+1 mate. I don't think it'll happen but it'll be good to see.

by blackcanelion Sun 08 Sep 2013, 12:24 am

Boks win they are no 1............ A lot to play for

by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 10 Sep 2013, 10:09 am

New OP. Any away winner will result in a rise in the rankings (SA to 1, Arg to 9 over Sco).

by **Biltong** Tue 10 Sep 2013, 10:14 am

blackcanelion wrote:Boks win they are no 1............ A lot to play for

We won't be number one in my eyes if we win though.

Still too much catching up to do after the last three years.

by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 10 Sep 2013, 10:17 am

maestegmafia wrote:England could make second if SA get pasted by the ABs...!

X Untrue I think. Insufficient points exchange.

by **Biltong** Tue 10 Sep 2013, 10:20 am

This is where the rankings lose all credibility.

We have lost 5 of our last 7 matches against the wallabies, and 6 matches to Nz in the last 3 years, by winning this weekend does not make Sa a better side than them.

by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 10 Sep 2013, 10:32 am

It's not just RSA, Bilt. It has to do with ~~performances~~ results elsewhere.

As I have often said, it's not a beauty pageant, just a statistical number crunching exercise.
And a pretty accurate one imo.

by mystiroakey Tue 10 Sep 2013, 2:42 pm

Well Rugby does throw these up occasionally . I doubt anyone would think England would be the second best if we got there(i don't think it can happen anyway but it was mentioned) and SA were the best- But these things do have a habit of sorting themselves out quickly. A snapshot of the rankings is never a good thing to go on. As we all know based on the WC seedings.

by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 10 Sep 2013, 2:58 pm

I'd have thought that about now would be the time to sort out both the pool rankings and the RWC draw.

It would still allow two years for the administration of team and business functions to organise themselves.

by blackcanelion Wed 11 Sep 2013, 4:53 am

Portnoy's Complaint wrote:I'd have thought that about now would be the time to sort out both the pool rankings and the RWC draw.

It would still allow two years for the administration of team and business functions to organise themselves.

It'd be a bit unfair on countries like Samoa and Argentina. They often can't put out full strength sides due to player availability. They'll drop down the rankings list between world cups. The current set up at least gives them some chance.

by Portnoy's Complaint Wed 18 Sep 2013, 11:56 am

Unless pigs sprout wings the insufferably predictable SH Championship this year will spring no seismic changes in the next round.

New OP.

by Portnoy's Complaint Mon 30 Sep 2013, 1:00 pm

New OP.

by Portnoy's Complaint Mon 07 Oct 2013, 3:45 pm

New OP.

by Duty281 Mon 21 Oct 2013, 9:30 pm

England still 3rd in the world then (I'd agree with that) after winning 7 out of their last 8 games.

Winning 7 more out of the next 8 games, that would be the 3 AIs and 5 Six Nations games, will be a great way to underline England's credentials. I am of course expecting wins over everyone bar the All Blacks - tough game that, to say the least.

by blackcanelion Tue 29 Oct 2013, 9:03 am

My take is if Australia win they swap places (England drop to 4th and Australia go to third). South Africa is to far ahead and France to far behind for to be affected by the result.

Japan goes up if the get a win or a draw against NZ. They could get as high as 11th in theory. NZ stay on top irrespective of the result. You'd have to predict a 15pt+ win to the AB's though.

by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:25 pm

Thanks for the prompt. I'll do a new OP asap.

by Portnoy's Complaint Wed 30 Oct 2013, 11:03 am

An Oz win restores them to 3rd. Otherwise no real positional changes likely unless you believe that Japan will the ABs and you haven't come down yet.

by Portnoy's Complaint Wed 06 Nov 2013, 9:35 am

New OP.

Loads. Absolutely loads of activity concerning top 20 World nations this weekend.

And every one of them according to the ESPN site is on Saturday (and they say that the broadcasters dominate the schedules).

Anyway, put your snouts through this autumnal debris and see what truffles you can sniff out.

by Portnoy's Complaint Wed 13 Nov 2013, 5:35 pm

Another truffle hunt for gay rankings boars.

New OP.

by Brendan Thu 14 Nov 2013, 10:10 pm

I think you have romania's and italy's pts wrong.

Thanks for doing this.

by Portnoy's Complaint Sat 16 Nov 2013, 8:06 am

Thanks, Brendan. Ita & Rom games recalculated.

by **Pal Joey** Sun 17 Nov 2013, 12:50 am

Oz only 0.05 behind England now...?

Tonga are on the slide.
Were they 73.21 or 67.24 before the France Match?
According to above, they will slip below Japan, Canada, and Romania.

Is that right, Portnoy? 13th to 16th?

and Ireland and Wales swap places.

1(1) NEW ZEALAND 93.80
2(2) SOUTH AFRICA 88.51*
3(3) ENGLAND 85.70
4(4) AUSTRALIA 85.65
5(5) FRANCE 81.44
6(7) WALES 80.98
7(6) IRELAND 79.33
8(7) SAMOA 79.24
9(9) SCOTLAND 77.25*
10(10) ARGENTINA 75.23
11(12) ITALY 74.34
12(13) FIJI 72.87
13(14) JAPAN 71.68?
14(15) CANADA 70.40
15(16) ROMANIA 68.81
16(13) TONGA 67.74?
17(16) GEORGIA 67.16
18(18) USA 66.60
19(19) RUSSIA 61.99?
20(20) SPAIN 61.85?

* still to play

by Portnoy's Complaint Sun 17 Nov 2013, 6:45 pm

Been busy this past week LB and rushed my OP. Tonga should have been 73.21

i.e. Tonga tour France v Tonga

fra (on 81.44 points) at home -vs- ton (on 73.21 points)
If fra win by 1-15 points 0.000 81.44 73.21 No
If fra win by more than 15 0.000 81.44 73.21 No
If result is a draw 1.000 80.44 74.21 No
If ton win by 1-15 points 2.000 79.44 75.21 No
If ton win by more than 15 3.000 78.44 76.21 No

THREE known mistakes! G.I.G.O: mad:
.
Sorry folks..
I'll find more time this week.
Promise. Whistle

by Portnoy's Complaint Mon 18 Nov 2013, 8:07 pm

New OP (hopefully without rushed mistakes on my part.

One anomaly is the Russia v USA game which ESPN says is to be played at Barnet and I don't know if that's in the States of at the Sarries ground in N London.

by blackcanelion Tue 19 Nov 2013, 4:35 am

I see Australia can theoretically move back into 3rd with a big win over Scotland.

by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 19 Nov 2013, 5:46 am

blackcanelion wrote:I see Australia can theoretically move back into 3rd with a big win over Scotland.

Any sort of win, I believe, blackcanelion.

Just so long as they stay out of the pub, it should be a formality.

by geoff998rugby Wed 20 Nov 2013, 12:59 pm

You've got Ireland wrong.

If they win ..I konw I know... they will go up the rankings

by blackcanelion Mon 25 Nov 2013, 8:23 am

I think this is right for Wales vs Australia

If Wal win by 1-15 points 1.210 82.19 84.87 No
If Wal win by more than 15 1.815 82.80 84.27 No
If result is a draw 0.210 81.19 85.87 No
If Aus win by 1-15 points 0.790 80.19 86.87 No
If Aus win by more than 15 1.185 79.80 87.27 No

If Wales win they overtake France and England overtake Australia.

by **Pal Joey** Mon 25 Nov 2013, 11:42 am

So we are temporarily 3rd again now, I take it?

England now back to 4th temporarily... Bubbly

Not that I care 'bout rankins' (sic) but we are back over that magical "86th" percentile. That's all I care about! Yahoo

by **Biltong** Mon 25 Nov 2013, 12:40 pm

Linebreaker wrote:So we are temporarily 3rd again now, I take it?

England now back to 4th temporarily...

Not that I care 'bout rankins' (sic) but we are back over that magical "86th" percentile. That's all I care about!

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