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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Sun 02 Dec 2012, 9:52 am

First topic message reminder :

THE POOL ALLOCATION DRAW WILL BE STREAMED LIVE ON RUGBYWORLDCUP.COM FROM 14:55 UK TIME ON 3 DECEMBER (15:55 CET, 16:55 (South Africa), 11:55 (Argentina), 01:55 4 December (NSW Australia), 03:55 4 December (New Zealand, Fiji), 04:55 4 December (Samoa)

Featuring Boris Johnson amongst the glitterati so it's anyone's guess what sort of a dick he'll make of himself.
(note to IRB: the RWC was granted to England, not London).
p.s. good call not inviting Cameron though.

I can't find any mention of the event on the ITV* schedules which as UK host broadcaster is disappointing up to the point when one realises that that font of rugby wisdom, Steve Rider will not be anchoring the event.

[ed: beg puddin.
Monday 3rd December
IRB Rugby World Cup 2015 – Pool Stage Draw
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Post by Don Alfonso Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:15 pm

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHH

England, Australia and Wales!

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Post by nobbled Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:16 pm

Brilliant - Wales-England - should be cracking!
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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:16 pm

All the teams look competitive.

Pool C looks the least likely of an upset, while Pool A is probably the closest.

Ireland will be the happiest of the home nations I think.
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Post by Morgannwg Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:16 pm

Well that's just typical isn't it, I said we'd be drawn with australia. Reckon we'll learn to beat them by then?
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Post by NeilyBroon Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:16 pm

I am so relieved. Scotland might actually make it to the quarters, although I won't be holding my breath!

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:17 pm

Well it could be worse...

Pool B

South Africa
Samoa
Scotland
Asia 1 (Japan)
America B (USA or Canada)

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:17 pm

Quarter finalists then Australia, England, S Africa, Samoa, N Zealand, Argentina, France and Ireland
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Post by GLove39 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:17 pm

As a Scot I'm rather happy, with Samoa & South Africa. Seems doable

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Post by RuggerBoy Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:17 pm

Nothing to fear for Wales then!

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Post by clivemcl Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:17 pm

Scotland are the luckiest third tier team there!

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:17 pm

Could have been a lot worse for Wales...! Neither of the tier two and one teams in our group are as consistently as NZ or SA so that bodes well for our chances of qualifying.

Pretty happy with that

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Post by eirebilly Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:18 pm

As an Irishman, i am not complaining about the draw Wink
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:18 pm

OK shut the internet now

England
Aus
Wales

Doh

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Post by wolfball Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:18 pm

The pools with my best guesses for the unconfirmed teams.. Relatively happy as an irishman

Pool A
Australia
England
Wales
Fiji
Uruguay

Pool B
South Africa
Samoa
Scotland
Japan
USA

Pool C
New Zealand
Argentina
Tonga
Georgia
Namibia

Pool D
France
Ireland
Italy
Canada
Russia




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Post by BATH_BTGOG Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:18 pm

Pool A Ouch!
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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:18 pm

So i'm assuming the England vs Wales game will be at the Millenium right? Wink
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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:19 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:Quarter finalists then Australia, England, S Africa, Samoa, N Zealand, Argentina, France and Ireland

Ha ha ha ha...!


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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:20 pm

maestegmafia wrote:Could have been a lot worse for Wales...! Neither of the tier two and one teams in our group are as consistently as NZ or SA so that bodes well for our chances of qualifying.

Pretty happy with that

Maes,

Lets hope you are right but if the WC was now then we wouldn't qualify and a lot will have to happen for me to change my mind. With Howley and Co in charge for the 6 Nations we will be battling it out for the spoon.
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Post by tigertattie Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:20 pm

Happy days

Scotland could not have asked for a better draw really! Maybe would have had oz over SA but I think Oz rugy will be in far better shape come 2015 than it is curretly!

Samoa are not to e taken lightly I know, but I'm happy to have them over England in England!
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Post by rodders Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:20 pm

Bollix not France! ..... ah could be worse I suppose....
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Post by Morgannwg Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:20 pm

Well I hope Fiji are as bad as they are now in 2015. Would like to see more rotation in this instance, against Uruguay.
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Post by nobbled Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:20 pm

Morgannwg wrote:Well that's just typical isn't it, I said we'd be drawn with australia. Reckon we'll learn to beat them by then?

I hope so Mrgannwg- and that we can do the same!- would love it if both Wales and England beat them.
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:21 pm

We have just been fked!!

there is no way we can give wales any home games at this rate!

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Post by Biltong Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:21 pm

So how does the quarters work?

Winner pool A vs runner up pool B
Winner pool B vs runner up pool A
Winner pool C vs runner up pool D
Winner pool D vs runner up pool C
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Post by clivemcl Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:21 pm

England knocked out in group stages on home ground??? Yes Please! Drool

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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:21 pm

rodders wrote:Bollix not France! ..... ah could be worse I suppose....

Even Tonga can beat Francea at a WC, I will swap you for Australia is you want Wink
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Post by mr_stonelea Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:22 pm

Yes come on - England and Wales pool their resources - let's send Australia home in the group stages!!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:22 pm

Pool C is a joke.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:22 pm

so is anyone from australia england or wales happy?????

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:22 pm

oooh pool A looks tasty doesn't it? Wink

the other pools maybe more straightforward, Scotland will be delighted you feel, while Ireland should at least comfortably make the QFs.

Of course, the WC being three years away, anything could happen in the meantime, so it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too early to make predictions...

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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:23 pm

Dan Carter wins player of the year
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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:23 pm

wales606 wrote:So i'm assuming the England vs Wales game will be at the Millenium right? Wink

Yh on a Friday or Sunday night lol
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Post by George Carlin Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:23 pm

Tonga and the Bokke?

Piece of p!ss, that. boxing
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:23 pm

mystiroakey wrote:so is anyone from australia england or wales happy?????

yup, me Very Happy

Love the look of that pool, England will be virtually playing knock-out rugby from the word go, which will make us more than battle-hardened for the knock-out stages when we reach them. delighted Very Happy

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Post by Golden Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:23 pm

Am i right in thinking that if Ireland come second to France they will most likely draw New Zealand in the Quarters?

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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:24 pm

mystiroakey wrote:so is anyone from australia england or wales happy?????

When I saw England, I thought that the Gods could at least be kind and give us France aswell. But nope.
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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:24 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:Could have been a lot worse for Wales...! Neither of the tier two and one teams in our group are as consistently as NZ or SA so that bodes well for our chances of qualifying.

Pretty happy with that

Maes,

Lets hope you are right but if the WC was now then we wouldn't qualify and a lot will have to happen for me to change my mind. With Howley and Co in charge for the 6 Nations we will be battling it out for the spoon.

That may be... We might suffer further injuries before and we might not see the lads who are currently out return. We may see the players that are still walking drop form further.

Then again to be honest, we have been close to the Aussies for the last 12 months and England we are pretty evens on results with...!

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Post by rodders Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:24 pm

wales606 wrote:
rodders wrote:Bollix not France! ..... ah could be worse I suppose....

Even Tonga can beat Francea at a WC, I will swap you for Australia is you want Wink

No thanks! ..... Very Happy
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Post by Breadvan Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:24 pm

mystiroakey wrote:so is anyone from australia england or wales happy?????

Yeh! BRING IT ONNN! boxing

Wink
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:24 pm

wales606 wrote:Dan Carter wins player of the year

If they needed anything to make it look even more stupid coming right after his worst performance in ...well possibly ever!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:24 pm

wales606 wrote:Dan Carter wins player of the year

that's rubbish, Farrell played him off the park on Saturday Wink


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Post by BATH_BTGOG Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:24 pm

Pool A is like a mini RWC all on it's own but no prizes for 3rd place. Crying or Very sad
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Post by Morgannwg Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:25 pm

Say England beat Wales and lose to Aus, but Wales beat Aus then it comes down to points difference? I guess there's no room for rotation then. Unless one of Fiji or Uruguay decide to throw the towel in against Eng/Aus and go for it against Wales. Wouldn't surprise me.
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Post by Golden Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:25 pm

What a joke the IRB player of the year award is!

How did Carter get it over Farrell????
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:25 pm

Well this place is gonna be busy with the welsh v english for the next 3 years at least!!

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:25 pm

mystiroakey wrote:so is anyone from australia england or wales happy?????

Not this Welshman, but then on current form I wouldn't be happy in any group good jobs its 3 years away give or take.
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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:26 pm

Golden wrote:Am i right in thinking that if Ireland come second to France they will most likely draw New Zealand in the Quarters?

Doesn't A play C and B play D?

In which case...it is the worst possible Welsh draw. We will have to beat England and Aus to avoid losing to NZ in the 1/4s, and at the moment we could barely beat Namibia.
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Post by rodders Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:26 pm

Golden wrote:Am i right in thinking that if Ireland come second to France they will most likely draw New Zealand in the Quarters?

.....ah I get your thinking....O'Driscoll might get to beat the ABs after all ...Wink
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Post by EnglishReign Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:27 pm

Jesus! Bit of an easy pool for us. Why did we not get 4th for smashing NZ?

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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:27 pm

Morgannwg wrote:Say England beat Wales and lose to Aus, but Wales beat Aus then it comes down to points difference? I guess there's no room for rotation then. Unless one of Fiji or Uruguay decide to throw the towel in against Eng/Aus and go for it against Wales. Wouldn't surprise me.
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