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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 3:12 pm

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Breaking News: Sale Sharks go into the top 4 for the first time this season after beating Worcester Warriors at home.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 08 Dec 2012, 4:57 pm

Tonga & Mujati played quite well, there's more to a pack than the props

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 09 Dec 2012, 12:16 pm

Desperate to raise cash as there is somebody I want in foreigns. EQ players and a few internationals could go cheap.

Come on people, you know you want to.
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Post by Fluxy Sun 09 Dec 2012, 2:01 pm

Ditto to the above!

Everybody has a price as they all say!

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Post by Driver Sun 09 Dec 2012, 2:08 pm

Crazy weekend , been swamped off my feet , hence why no predictions.
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Post by Driver Sun 09 Dec 2012, 3:07 pm

Think France would ever call Brock James up?
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Dec 2012, 3:19 pm

Not really he is very up and down. Can go to pieces.

Sextons goal kicking at 50% this year. Can't play tests for the lions with that percentage. It would mean halfpenny having to play to offer us an option

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Post by Driver Sun 09 Dec 2012, 3:22 pm

Disgusting sceans at the Manchester derby , blood all over Ferdinand.

I'd pick Sexton at the minute with Halfpenny at full back.
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Dec 2012, 3:26 pm

As much as Rio Ferdinand is a repulsive human being that is an ugly scene and no one deserves that

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 09 Dec 2012, 3:32 pm

Apparently a city fan tried to get to him and Hart had to stop him.

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Post by Driver Sun 09 Dec 2012, 3:33 pm

I saw a bloke with his hood up when it showed Ferdinand briefly.

Joke the full thing.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 09 Dec 2012, 3:33 pm

The thing I will never understand in football is why FIFA/UEFA don't just say if you swear or shout at a ref it is an automatic red card. Can't believe how much they get away with, but you never see anything happen about it.

Just another couple of reasons why rugby is so much better as a sport!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 09 Dec 2012, 3:36 pm

saw City fan going mad in the stands. Ferdinand's behaviour far from the expected. Shouldn't celebrate in front of opposing fans like that.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 09 Dec 2012, 4:29 pm

SOB back to his best already. Leinster going really well.

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Post by Guest Sun 09 Dec 2012, 4:37 pm

Leinster Backrow been excellent. Heaslip in amazing form at the mOment

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 09 Dec 2012, 6:14 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Not really he is very up and down. Can go to pieces.

Sextons goal kicking at 50% this year. Can't play tests for the lions with that percentage. It would mean halfpenny having to play to offer us an option

Sexton is nowhere near 50% this year. If I had the time I'd do the stats for you! He was mid 70s only a few weeks ago when it was brought up in a match thread. Would want to have been kicking 20-30% since (which he isnt!) to get anywhere near that figure.

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Post by Guest Sun 09 Dec 2012, 6:37 pm

That was what they were quoting on sky during the match. To be fair he only missed one today

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 09 Dec 2012, 6:49 pm

I'll look at the stats after Wednesday but that figure is miles off. He was at 71% at the start of November when we were talking about it. Hes only played 4 games since.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:45 am

Is the deadline still 12 for foriegns? I'm not sure on how much money I've got!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:00 pm

It is mate. I'll extend it for half an hour to give you cahnce to get sorted. If you are not sure how much you have exactly but have a rough idea, then stick a bid in and I am sure we can work out whatever issue there may be with cash if one arises.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:42 pm

confident about tonight driver?

Reckon Berba will have too much for you!

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Post by Driver Mon 10 Dec 2012, 1:15 pm

I reckon 2-1 Fulham, pards had lost the plot this season.

Player power has took over
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Post by Fluxy Mon 10 Dec 2012, 1:17 pm

Still too late pete? The busy life of student!

I reckon I have enough, if I were to accept Steve's offer.

But I need to make sure he hasn't been bought as well!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 10 Dec 2012, 1:25 pm

Flux, as it's you go for it mate.
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Post by Fluxy Mon 10 Dec 2012, 1:52 pm

Such a babe! Homepage - Page 2 3602195817

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Post by stnick88 Mon 10 Dec 2012, 2:07 pm

to be fair driver you have had bad luck with injuries, and without cabaye your not the same side. will be close tonight though. our defence will have to be on form.

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Post by Driver Mon 10 Dec 2012, 2:10 pm

Cabs been off song most of tue season, Marvoux is one to watch amd im sure Hatem is back tonight.

Missing it as i'm at RFU acadamy meeting so will have to watch it when I get in.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 10 Dec 2012, 2:46 pm

Ba, Tiote and Ben Arfa are all supposed to of recovered from knocks and be fit. hoping not all of them make it!

Yeh Marveaux looks good. We've got a couple of good wingers too, Kacalicnic is decent as is Kerim Frei.

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 10 Dec 2012, 7:45 pm

Jeez.............. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA5bwqVN5LM
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 10 Dec 2012, 7:52 pm

And they thought Wade was quick! That guy makes him look as fast as a rock. Did they say he'd only been playing rugby for 12 weeks too?

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Post by Fluxy Tue 11 Dec 2012, 1:13 pm

Oh poopie

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8324280,00.html

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 11 Dec 2012, 2:30 pm

Yep 12 weeks....mental!!
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Post by Guest Tue 11 Dec 2012, 6:01 pm

is that the guy who plays 7s if so his defence looks like he has been playing that long serious wheels though.

priestland been having a mare for a while may be able to loan you Donald flux? he is in top form at moment

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Post by Fluxy Tue 11 Dec 2012, 6:18 pm

Not too fussed atm mate, With the bad weather Myler comes into his own a bit

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Post by Driver Tue 11 Dec 2012, 8:06 pm

Shane Jennings can leave , not after the world for him either.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 11 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm

Hartley citing:

http://www.rugbydump.com/

So much for Best starting it, he just tries to get up and Hartley drags him down and lays into him. Such a dick, hopefully give him a few months (no doubt get nothing)

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:13 pm

"With the Six Nations in February and Leicester Tigers hooker Tom Youngs doing a good job during the end of year tours, a heavy ban could mean Hartley will find it tough to force his way back in, which would be disastrous for him considering there are British & Irish Lions spots up for grabs."

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:20 pm

Seen a lot worse to be honest - why would he get a few months for that though, look at what Thompson did in the Scottish game, look at the Andrew Hore incident on Bradley Davies, in comparison Hartley's is pretty much nothing.

Has to stop getting himself into those situations though - he was very harshly done by getting 8 weeks after the Ireland game, even Ferris came out and said afterwards he felt Hartley gag when he had put his fingers in his mouth.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:21 pm

As I posted on the thread on it in the rugby section on here...


Hartley is a dirty fecker for sure, but seriously, that is a real low end incident. They are on the ground, Best is on top, and impedes Hartley getting up (no idea if intentionally or not), they roll around a bit and Hartley is on top and Best holds on to him so Hartley forearm smashes him in the face, then there's a a bit of cuddling before Big John Afoa dives in and sorts it out.

What load of fecking nonsense.

I'd not seen it before today and from some of what has been spouted in a number of places I assumed that Hartley had gone to town on Best. it's a 2 week entry point for striking, couple of weeks added because Hartley is a tool, then halved for a guilty plea and not eating the biscuits, arriving back at 2 weeks.

As P Divvy once said, "it's not ballet". Move along people, nothing to see here.
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Post by Guest Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:24 pm

100 percent Pete. No ban for me but in these times 2 weeks top.

Lions need him. It's probably weakest position. Could see a bolter at 2

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:33 pm

Previous........he's a dirty git

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:34 pm

He'll get a ban for certain, but read some rubbish from people saying he'd get 2-3 months, blooming Hore got 5 weeks for smashing Davies from behind and knocking the bloke out - so can't see how people can say Hartley deserves more. Hore effectively banned for one game for what he did.

Then you have thompson who trod on a Scottish guys head, not really nastily but intent was there and he got one week. The IRB kick up a fuss and say it was far too lenient so they add on...an extra week.

The citing and banning procedures are an absolutely joke at the minute. There is no consistency and a lot of people seem to get away with murder, whilst lesser offences see people have the book thrown at them. Bizarre.

Hartley is a tool, I was at the game where he gouged Haskell and O'Connor's eyes and saw another when he went for Dallagio, so I'm not a fan of him that way, but he's a talented player, who I think gets a lot of bad press because of his temperament, which had to some extent calmed down quite a lot since being given the captaincy at Saints. Issues just get blown up more because it is Hartley.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:40 pm

Hartley will.get a few Weeks. .nothing in it for me

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 11 Dec 2012, 9:46 pm

Typical Hartley really. Quite happy to go after somebody when he's above them but will never go toe to toe.

Just a fanny who thinks he's the big man. He's going to struggle to get back in England side, especially if he gets another month on the sidelines.

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Dec 2012, 10:00 pm

Hartley streets ahead of youngs Gray Paice etc.

Only him and Best really for lions.

He is physical and you need that. He winds people up which is good.

The Hore on Davies incident was not that bad thought 5 was harsh. The Thomson one deserved 6 months

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 11 Dec 2012, 10:09 pm

I'd have said the Hore one wouldnt have been bad if he didn't strike him from behind, and when both running to a ruck. Davies couldn't have defended himself at all, so quite cowardly.

Hartley is a really good player, like you say Mat he is physical and winds people up and a team needs that - but for me he also has excellent leadership skills and Lancaster clearly rates him very highly and he will be straight back in the England team.

Was Ross Ford ever a good hooker, as he seems to have dropped right off the boil - I could never work out if he was overrated or not?

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Dec 2012, 10:10 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3825_8324588,00.html not played for over 2 months and showing no signs of improving

Ferris last played Nov 2nd 6 weeks ago and had small op and
may be ready 6 nations

2 key Irish players who if missing could ruin there 6 nations. if Ross gets injured its all over. Ross ain't even that good either but is crucial to ireland. Same with John Hayes who was never much better than average

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 11 Dec 2012, 10:12 pm

POC is finished. He'll never play more than 2 games in a row again. His body is just not up to it. He has spent more time injured than playing since 2009.
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Post by Guest Tue 11 Dec 2012, 10:13 pm

It's fine to hit Davies from behind as he was trying to lurk however he should have been cleared out lower and in to the ruck. It was far
Too high but he was trying to be in the way.

In the back and Davies would have got what he deserved. In the head/neck cowardly and wrong but maybe mistimed


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Post by Guest Tue 11 Dec 2012, 10:15 pm

Not sure I agree Pete. People have said same re ferris and he has
Come back and played loads of key games.

Admittedly ferris much younger but still.

Think both if managed can be assets to their country and lions.

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Dec 2012, 10:17 pm

I worry about Jamie Roberts and injuries though. Great player and bloke but often injured and fragile.

It's way he plays.
Like Keith wood and ferris.
Wrecking balls who attract injuries

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