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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 02 Jan 2013, 6:27 pm

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Breaking News: Pooly quits as Falcons boss after their first home defeat for 2 years, paving the way for a shock return to the Premiership for former Exeter Chiefs, London Welsh and Saracens head coach Driver, who takes charge at Kingston Park.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by dammit_chris Tue 29 Jan 2013, 8:38 am

Didn't know this, Telegraph has done a little piece on how England will miss Tuilagi and working out the midfield combination.

The Tuilagi factor

25.7
Average points scored by England in the 17 Tests in which Manu Tuilagi has played since his 2011 debut. The average number of tries is 2.6.

13.66
Average points scored in the three games Tuilagi has missed. The average number of tries is 0.66

Think they release 10 players back to their club tonight, just hope we dont go Flood, Barritt and Farrell.

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Post by stnick88 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 8:48 am

Flood, Barritt and Farrell would be a disgusting combo.

Barritt has been playing well and should start.

I'd go Farrell, Baritt, Joseph

12T on bench

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Post by Guest Tue 29 Jan 2013, 9:00 am

I am more interested in buying fotuali so I can trade him for someone good elsewhere. I have tj Genia Murray and Robson so could do without another Sh. That said he is top and would defo get game time

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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 9:58 am

Wooooooo!

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8451597,00.html
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Post by Guest Tue 29 Jan 2013, 10:04 am

Driver wrote:Wooooooo!

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8451597,00.html

Both him and burger are playing in that game so be good to see how they go. Would imagine they will get 20-30 minutes each.


They are having a huge heat wave in Sa at the moment. I would not want to play 10 minutes in that heat

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 29 Jan 2013, 10:20 am

Great to see Smith & Burger back, two of my favs

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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 10:33 am

Hate playing in heat waves , back end of the season when it gets really warm is a nightmare.
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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 10:43 am

Geechs joins England staff

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16022_8400790,00.html
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Post by Guest Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:51 am

Check this loon out. http://m.thisisbristol.co.uk/story.html?aid=17993245&category=news

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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:53 am

Sick Muppet , hate people who are that way inclined.

Should be shot.
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Post by dammit_chris Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:04 pm

Was JJ on the bench during the AI's - I can't quite remember who it was other than Care and Burns in the last game, sure it was JJ.

If so you'd imagine that he would start, but Lancaster made a big deal about form being key and I am not sure how well JJ has been playing recently? He seems to be very complimentary about Twelvetrees in all the interviews too, so must be in contention for a bench spot.

Only issue I have is that apart from Ashton where do our tries come from in the backline? Brown isnt an international class winger (great fullback) in terms of positioning and finishing chances out wide, Goode for me isn't a gainline breaker and hasnt the pace to be a top draw fullback and I'd prefer a strike runner there, either Brown or Foden.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:09 pm

Fodens form would keep him, he's been poor.

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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:18 pm

They dont need a gain line breaker at 15 as the England game plan has changed from that. It's all about movement off the ball and pulling the man out of his position through width of a pass or where you line up in attack not relying on a hard runner at 15 to come smash through the line.

Goode has loads of gas! He cuts the game open in broken play!
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Post by stnick88 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:23 pm

Goode has a good step and a good little burst of acceleration, but he is not the fastest. Not sure if Brown is any faster but would say Brown is a better runner as is Foden.

Foden probably playing the worst out of the 3 though, Brown the form man for a long time now.

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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:23 pm

Quins sign PDJ

http://www.quins.co.uk/news/6854.php#.UQe_VR3ZZwU
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:25 pm

Yea agree there Nick.

Goode's top end isn't great but adds other qualities. I'd definitely have Goode & Brown over Foden currently

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:51 pm

Foden started season well and hasn't come back to his best yet, played very well against Gloucester though.

For me he's our best all round fb by some distance, just needs some form - personally think Brown deserves to start.

I'm not the biggest fan of Goode at top level, he's a calming presence at the back and has a good rugby brain, but if you play him I think you need a genuine out and out winger playing instead of a fb on the wing.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:57 pm

I think Brown & Goode are better than Foden, he's too predictable. He either runs straight or straight, defences have figured him out.

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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:11 pm

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors)
14 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors)
13 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors)
12 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby)
11 Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby)
10 Ruaridh Jackson (Glasgow Warriors)
9 Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby) vice-captain

1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) vice-captain
2 Dougie Hall (Glasgow Warriors)
3 Euan Murray (Worcester Warriors)
4 Richie Gray (Sale Sharks)
5 Jim Hamilton (Gloucester Rugby)
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan)
7 Kelly Brown (Saracens) captain
8 Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier)

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16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby)
17 Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors)
18 Geoff Cross (Edinburgh Rugby)
19 Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors)
20 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby)
21 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors)
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors)
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Post by stnick88 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:13 pm

strong side

dont like brown at 7. front row not the greatest.

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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:14 pm

Gone for raw power in the pack , Robshaw could have a field day on the deck.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:17 pm

Ross Ford dropped is a big call but to be fair none of the Edinburgh team deserve to be included on form.

Good for Beattie, he's looked great when I've seen him and Laidlaw has proved to be much better 9 than 10 this season.

Should be a good game, I like that back 3.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:29 pm

Foden's only one out of the three who could be world class in my view - seems to still score a fair few and sets up a lot too. Again wouldnt start him this week though.

I hope we can build on the NZ game, as the games before that we were very poor and offered next to nothing in attack.

Scotland have named a team that looks very good on paper, could cause us a few issues.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:30 pm

Is Ryan Grant any good? I got him as needed a loose head and hadnt seen much of him, but seen he's named as a vc for Scotland.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:32 pm

Foden is nowhere near world class, bizarre statement.

Grant is a good prop, better than Chunk anyway but thats not hard.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:33 pm

@rugbymedia: Ireland XV v Wales: Kearney Gilroy O’Driscoll D’Arcy Zebo Sexton Murray; Healy Best Ross McCarthy Ryan O’Mahony O’Brien Heaslip (c)

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Post by Guest Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

Grant improves every match. He was good in the AI's a few questions over his set piece

Never used to rate him at all but he has improved. Fairly unbalanced jock side but hugely competitive.

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