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Post by Janecory Fri 11 Jan 2013, 6:08 pm

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:49 pm

Thats better Edinburgh!!

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:51 pm

ahh shame there, fantastic work by Scott and cairns!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:52 pm

No idea. Ref hasn't a clue!

Welcome back ben cairns!

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:52 pm

Edinburgh scrum is much better!

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Post by George Carlin Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:52 pm

Sir Roderick of Grant is on? I'm not watching his but I thought that the Big Bas was playing well?
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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:53 pm

spoke too soon

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:54 pm

George Carlin wrote:Sir Roderick of Grant is on? I'm not watching his but I thought that the Big Bas was playing well?

reckon he'll be on at 60 mins. Basalia is a big boy and not bad idea to play 50/50 with Grant in my opinion.

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:55 pm

How f**king deep did Earls get the ball off O'Gara there? Thats the problem with Rog.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:56 pm

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pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Right now the only place Earls could get in an Irish 23 is 13 as all wingers and fullbacks are playing better than him, Darcy is playing better at 12. BOD needs to up it but as captain he should make it in to the 13 jersey rightly or wrongly.


Earls will be starting somewhere.

If he doesn't start at 13, do you really think he deserves to be selected over Trimble, Zebo or Gilroy? Or Kearney at 15.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:56 pm

So stupid from Kilcoyne.

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

Come on!! Well done Nel! Well done Edinburgh!!

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

Jeebus, this game is tedious for a neutral.

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Post by George Carlin Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

bsando wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Sir Roderick of Grant is on? I'm not watching his but I thought that the Big Bas was playing well?

reckon he'll be on at 60 mins. Basalia is a big boy and not bad idea to play 50/50 with Grant in my opinion.
My live text feed says that the substitution has already been made! picard
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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

Excellent defense from Ed.

I just knew that Munster would see a yellow card. Ed has had about 3 final warnings but hey ho Very Happy

Kilcoyne was incredibly dumb though Very Happy
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Post by Coleman Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

Hound_of_Harrow wrote:Jeebus, this game is tedious for a neutral.

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:58 pm

valjester wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Right now the only place Earls could get in an Irish 23 is 13 as all wingers and fullbacks are playing better than him, Darcy is playing better at 12. BOD needs to up it but as captain he should make it in to the 13 jersey rightly or wrongly.


Earls will be starting somewhere.

I personally hope he isn't because I don't think he deserves to.

I don't understand that scrum penalty to Edinburgh. Headscratch Anyone get that?

Wow harsh on Kilcoyne.

Ps: That last 3 minutes was a perfect example of why 'old Munster' will not work. Penny ball won't either it needs to be a combination

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:59 pm

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pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Right now the only place Earls could get in an Irish 23 is 13 as all wingers and fullbacks are playing better than him, Darcy is playing better at 12. BOD needs to up it but as captain he should make it in to the 13 jersey rightly or wrongly.


Earls will be starting somewhere.

If he doesn't start at 13, do you really think he deserves to be selected over Trimble, Zebo or Gilroy? Or Kearney at 15.

He will start in the centre I reckon, I would have him in the team somewhere to be honest, with Bowe out especially.

Zebo getting the ball really deep because Rog is standing deep yet again, how can the management not be dealing with this?

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Post by GLove39 Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

Clucking Bell Denton..!

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:01 pm

Edinburgh have to be careful here, could end with penalty try or a yellow card if Scrum crumbles

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:02 pm

Awful by Denton. mad

No one has said it here yet but great break by the Edinbugh 13 through Downey and Earls.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:02 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
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pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Right now the only place Earls could get in an Irish 23 is 13 as all wingers and fullbacks are playing better than him, Darcy is playing better at 12. BOD needs to up it but as captain he should make it in to the 13 jersey rightly or wrongly.


Earls will be starting somewhere.

I personally hope he isn't because I don't think he deserves to.

I don't understand that scrum penalty to Edinburgh. Headscratch Anyone get that?

Wow harsh on Kilcoyne.

Ps: That last 3 minutes was a perfect example of why 'old Munster' will not work. Penny ball won't either it needs to be a combination

Ok, for the last time. Who is the better option at 13 for Ireland right now? BOD is still not fully match fit so who else is there?
Why does he not deserve to be in the team? He hasnt been playing wing or fullback so he cant be judged there, he has been playing 13 so judge him on that and i think that he has been playing well and deserves a place until BOD shows better form and wins his position back.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:02 pm

In my opinion, Earls must be the best 13 or he doesn't start. He is now a fair bit behind other options in the back three. He is the best 13 behind BOD currently though.

Laidlaw hit that out on purpose, penalty try?

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:03 pm

bsando wrote:Edinburgh have to be careful here, could end with penalty try or a yellow card if Scrum crumbles

Could be a penalty try in a different manner than you are expecting, clever use of the penalty advantage by Murray.

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Post by kingjohn7 Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:03 pm

Could a Munster fan explain to me 'Penny ball'. Is it just flinging it about?

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:04 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:In my opinion, Earls must be the best 13 or he doesn't start. He is now a fair bit behind other options in the back three. He is the best 13 behind BOD currently though.

Laidlaw hit that out on purpose, penalty try?

Surely that's a penalty try? Remember Bowe against the All Blacks in 08?

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:04 pm

Don't know why your shaking your head Laidlaw its pretty bloody clear you knocked it out on purpose.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:04 pm

Penalty try, finally Very Happy

Just 3 more lads, please Very Happy
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:05 pm

Wow that was very unnecessary from Laidlaw

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:05 pm

Maybe it was decided that Laidlaw was in front of Earls and would have got the ball first regardless. Not a certain try therefore.

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Post by RDW Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:05 pm

Did he ask the tmo whether Laidlaw should be binned? Surely he can't use the tmo for that?

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:06 pm

valjester wrote:
bsando wrote:Edinburgh have to be careful here, could end with penalty try or a yellow card if Scrum crumbles

Could be a penalty try in a different manner than you are expecting, clever use of the penalty advantage by Murray.

Well yellow and a penalty try picard Good pressure by Munster and a silly piece of play from Laidlaw

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:06 pm

Denton is having a bad few minutes...
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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:06 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Did he ask the tmo whether Laidlaw should be binned? Surely he can't use the tmo for that?

He asked about foul play in the act of scoring.

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Post by RDW Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:06 pm

This ref is absolutely ridiculous

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Post by Notch Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:07 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Did he ask the tmo whether Laidlaw should be binned? Surely he can't use the tmo for that?

Anything in goal is fair game. He's well within his rights and it was good refereeing.

Can't believe how poor Edinburgh; why on Earth they gave that bluffer Bradley a job in the first place is beyond my ken.


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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:07 pm

Knock on? mmm I dunno about that ref

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Post by GLove39 Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:07 pm

Well that's game over for us.
Only wish for this game now, don't let Munster get the bonus point try. Deny them that at least.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:07 pm

I'm a little confused at both the penalty try and the laidlaw yellow. What was the explanation on tv?

That was never a knockon either.

Why sub cairns and basilia?

This is a shambles!

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:07 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:This ref is absolutely ridiculous

In what way, RDW?

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:This ref is absolutely ridiculous

In what way, RDW?

He's had a couple of debatable calls but all in all I think he has been pretty fair to both teams.

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Post by George Carlin Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:I'm a little confused at both the penalty try and the laidlaw yellow. What was the explanation on tv?

That was never a knockon either.

Why sub cairns and basilia?

This is a shambles!
And now Fat Boy for Cairns????
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Post by GLove39 Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

On the plus side though crowd of 6,220 that's something at least

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

I have been very confused by the ref at times in the first half but he has been spot on in the second half.
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Post by RDW Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

I'm standing pitch side and most rucks they have guys over the top and sealing the ball, and he's made some strange calls all game!

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

bsando wrote:
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bsando wrote:Edinburgh have to be careful here, could end with penalty try or a yellow card if Scrum crumbles

Could be a penalty try in a different manner than you are expecting, clever use of the penalty advantage by Murray.

Well yellow and a penalty try picard Good pressure by Munster and a silly piece of play from Laidlaw

It looks about the only way Munster are going to score a try. Rog is so deep it is crucifying them, the outside backs are getting the ball flat from him but they are about 30 yards behind the game line because of how deep he is standing.

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:11 pm

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pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Right now the only place Earls could get in an Irish 23 is 13 as all wingers and fullbacks are playing better than him, Darcy is playing better at 12. BOD needs to up it but as captain he should make it in to the 13 jersey rightly or wrongly.


Earls will be starting somewhere.

I personally hope he isn't because I don't think he deserves to.

I don't understand that scrum penalty to Edinburgh. Headscratch Anyone get that?

Wow harsh on Kilcoyne.

Ps: That last 3 minutes was a perfect example of why 'old Munster' will not work. Penny ball won't either it needs to be a combination

Ok, for the last time. Who is the better option at 13 for Ireland right now? BOD is still not fully match fit so who else is there?
Why does he not deserve to be in the team? He hasnt been playing wing or fullback so he cant be judged there, he has been playing 13 so judge him on that and i think that he has been playing well and deserves a place until BOD shows better form and wins his position back.

Remember that Earls is back from injury a game before BOD so has had another game to prove his form. BOD is a considerably better player so if he gets back to near his best I'd have him

Wow I thought Denton could be a Lions option.....guess not. Don't think that was a knock on though.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:11 pm

Okay, sorry to the fans of Earls, but that was two shocking passes in a row there. It should have been a try.

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:12 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Okay, sorry to the fans of Earls, but that was two shocking passes in a row there. It should have been a try.

Come on, one is blocked and Downey dropped the other.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:13 pm

Great try from Murray Very Happy
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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 2:13 pm

Don't bother with the conversion Rog.

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