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Post by Janecory Fri 11 Jan 2013, 6:08 pm

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:10 pm

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Post by Notch Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:12 pm

ROG kicking the ball away for cheap turnovers with no prospect of regaining the ball again. Sad

They go lateral then they kick the ball away. It's a pattern that killed them against Cardiff.
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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:15 pm

Notch wrote:ROG kicking the ball away for cheap turnovers with no prospect of regaining the ball again. Sad

They go lateral then they kick the ball away. It's a pattern that killed them against Cardiff.

Just after waking up, and Frankie is talking sh**e yet again. Anybody criticising Rog in the media? How badly has he been playing?


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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:15 pm

Munster looking pretty poor.
Scrum is doing well again and the carrying is pretty effective.

Can people see Munster beating any of the teams they may face if they get to the 1/4 finals?

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:17 pm

I sound like a Broken Record i know but ROG is just not attacking enough. This is the game where Munster need a TBP win if they are to have any hope of making the last 8.
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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:18 pm

Before Tonks made that error Edinburgh defence were all just running backwards giving Munster plenty of space to kick the ball up field. Why do they keep running away from Munster?

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:19 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Munster looking pretty poor.
Scrum is doing well again and the carrying is pretty effective.

Can people see Munster beating any of the teams they may face if they get to the 1/4 finals?

You never know, Rog might be injured by then. FFS Frankie shup up, you absolute gombeen.

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Post by Golden Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:19 pm

Kilcoyne looks a good player. Theres some competition at loose head now with the way Tom Court has been playing.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:19 pm

Munster look a little poor i will give you that pete but Earles has been pretty good has he not?

I would be going for the corners now, not the points.
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:19 pm

Frankie Sheehan should not be allowed near a microphone

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:21 pm

eirebilly wrote:Munster look a little poor i will give you that pete but Earles has been pretty good has he not?

I would be going for the corners now, not the points.

You think? Why? Made all his tackles, one really big one I guess. That's it though, or did I miss a bit?

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Post by yappysnap Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:21 pm

How one eyed is this Irish commentator?! Some brilliant D from Edinburgh and all he can go on about is the "super" Munster attack!

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:22 pm

eirebilly wrote:Munster look a little poor i will give you that pete but Earles has been pretty good has he not?

I would be going for the corners now, not the points.


Varley is playing, therefore lineout is about reliable as Rog's tackling.


Why can't you spell Earls properly?

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Post by George Carlin Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:22 pm

9-0? FES - WTF is going on?
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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:23 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Munster look a little poor i will give you that pete but Earles has been pretty good has he not?

I would be going for the corners now, not the points.

You think? Why? Made all his tackles, one really big one I guess. That's it though, or did I miss a bit?

He has made a couple of cracking runs, his defense has been excellent. Just try and look at him as a player and not as Kieth Earles the antichrist for a second Wink
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Post by Golden Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:23 pm

Why does Rog go so long off the restarts? Doesnt allow his players to compete for it

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:24 pm

Golden wrote:Kilcoyne looks a good player. Theres some competition at loose head now with the way Tom Court has been playing.


Buckley is having a very strong season for Connacht as well. It is great that there are good Irish options at all four provinces.

Varley has regressed terribly, his discipline is awful.

Commentary is awful, I'm struggling to listen.

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:24 pm

I really do hate it when players hold onto ball in rucks off their feet, even when its your own team. Spoils momentum and is just plain dirty. Obviously its just one of those things that happens in rucks but its kind of like diving in football, unsportsman like IMO

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:24 pm

yappysnap wrote:How one eyed is this Irish commentator?! Some brilliant D from Edinburgh and all he can go on about is the "super" Munster attack!
Try to ignore anything Frankie says. I really don't know how this guy got a job commentating.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:25 pm

Horribly naive play from the restart! Pathetic decision making.

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Post by Coleman Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:25 pm

valjester wrote:Commentary is awful, I'm struggling to listen.

Who is this Irish guy banging on about how every Munster player is the best in the world?

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:26 pm

god help edinburgh if munster get a scrum 5m out, getting totally owned!

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:27 pm

As for Frankie, even us Munster fans get irritated by him. Ignore him Very Happy
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Post by Golden Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:28 pm

This has to go down the line surely?

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:29 pm

Thats harsh against ED, thought he came through the middle...
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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:31 pm

Coleman wrote:
valjester wrote:Commentary is awful, I'm struggling to listen.

Who is this Irish guy banging on about how every Munster player is the best in the world?


That would only be the players who are his agents, he is apparently an awful pr**k of an agent as well, talked a few of his players out of contracts by asking for much too much money.


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Post by RDW Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:31 pm

There's only one team being refereed here!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:31 pm

Series of joke calls against edinburgh there.

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:32 pm

eirebilly wrote:
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eirebilly wrote:Munster look a little poor i will give you that pete but Earles has been pretty good has he not?

I would be going for the corners now, not the points.

You think? Why? Made all his tackles, one really big one I guess. That's it though, or did I miss a bit?

He has made a couple of cracking runs, his defense has been excellent. Just try and look at him as a player and not as Kieth Earles the antichrist for a second Wink

I do like Earls tbh Billy, I really do, I think he is wasted at 13 and hinders others outside him.

Objectively I see some grand passing, one ok run, grand defence and one great tackle and one fine penalty. Not playing badly but wouldn't say he is playing well.
Donnacha Ryan on the other hand! notworthy

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:32 pm

I would have to say justice there that Munster didnt score. Some very odd decisions going against ED.
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:33 pm

Why did POM run so far to push a guy? Nothing was happening!
He has carried really well BTW

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Post by Golden Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:34 pm

If Munster do get through to the quarters i really cant see them progressing from there. They are a poor enough team atm

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:34 pm

Jaysus pete, that was almost half a compliment for Earles there Laugh

Very poor from Munster but some excellent defense from ED keeping them in this. I would be worried that ED may run out of steam towards the end of the game if they keep it up though.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:36 pm

Golden wrote:If Munster do get through to the quarters i really cant see them progressing from there. They are a poor enough team atm

I dont know, i can see them progressing myself. There are only 1 or 2 teams that have looked excellent to be be honest and Munster can grind out wins.
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Post by justified sinner Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:36 pm

What's the ref doing at the breakdown? Ed come in from the back and get pinged Mun come in from the Ed side and play on?

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Post by Notch Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:36 pm

Bloody hell, why didn't they take the scrum? BJ was dominating! He's just been robbed of a penalty try

Bloody backs talking to the referee thats why and making the call thats why. You can see now why they should be kept away from the important stuff censored steam
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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:37 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Why did POM run so far to push a guy? Nothing was happening!
He has carried really well BTW

Yes, it has been excellent, really impressive considering he is not the biggest, his footwork is immense. Rog needs to get his Poopie together, downey is such a poor, poor player though I don't think he is playing well at all, Earls is doing decent but Munster need him to be doing better than that, which admittedly is hard with those two directly inside him.

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:39 pm

eirebilly wrote:Jaysus pete, that was almost half a compliment for Earles there Laugh

Very poor from Munster but some excellent defense from ED keeping them in this. I would be worried that ED may run out of steam towards the end of the game if they keep it up though.

Seriously, what is with the extra 'e' in Earls?

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:39 pm

valjester wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Why did POM run so far to push a guy? Nothing was happening!
He has carried really well BTW

Yes, it has been excellent, really impressive considering he is not the biggest, his footwork is immense. Rog needs to get his Poopie together, downey is such a poor, poor player though I don't think he is playing well at all, Earls is doing decent but Munster need him to be doing better than that, which admittedly is hard with those two directly inside him.
Munster don't use Downey well at all. He played so much better with Northampton.

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:40 pm

eirebilly wrote:Jaysus pete, that was almost half a compliment for Earles there Laugh

Very poor from Munster but some excellent defense from ED keeping them in this. I would be worried that ED may run out of steam towards the end of the game if they keep it up though.

I do like him, I just think he is very overrated and is playing out of position. He is good but as a centre I wouldn't give him any more than that.
Also his name is Earls as Val says! thumbsup

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:40 pm

Ryan, POM, Zebo and Earls have been the standout players for Munster. Sadly Downey and ROG offer nothing to inspire the backs.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:41 pm

O'Mahony is having a stormer, he must have broken through about 5 tackles already. His carrying has been exceptional this season, something he has been criticised for in the past. He has bulked up apparently too.

He needs to wise up though and stop getting involved in the handbags every single time, he seems to think he needs to get involved. Focus on the rugby for flip sake and stop making a fool out of yourself..

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:42 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
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pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Why did POM run so far to push a guy? Nothing was happening!
He has carried really well BTW

Yes, it has been excellent, really impressive considering he is not the biggest, his footwork is immense. Rog needs to get his Poopie together, downey is such a poor, poor player though I don't think he is playing well at all, Earls is doing decent but Munster need him to be doing better than that, which admittedly is hard with those two directly inside him.
Munster don't use Downey well at all. He played so much better with Northampton.

Not really, there is a reason why Northampton were happy to get rid of him, he just isn't all that good.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:42 pm

Earls is also playing very well I think. I would love to see him play in a backline better suited to attack.

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:43 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:O'Mahony is having a stormer, he must have broken through about 5 tackles already. His carrying has been exceptional this season, something he has been criticised for in the past. He has bulked up apparently too.

He needs to wise up though and stop getting involved in the handbags every single time, he seems to think he needs to get involved. Focus on the rugby for flip sake and stop making a fool out of yourself..

Agree with all of that

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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:44 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Earls is also playing very well I think. I would love to see him play in a backline better suited to attack.

Wait til the Six Nations and the Irish backline... oh wait, we don't have a backs coach... em right as you were.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:48 pm

I would be tempted to bring Keatley on for ROG for the second half to be honest. Ed will surely be tired after that excellent defensive effort in the first half.
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:48 pm

Right now the only place Earls could get in an Irish 23 is 13 as all wingers and fullbacks are playing better than him, Darcy is playing better at 12. BOD needs to up it but as captain he should make it in to the 13 jersey rightly or wrongly.


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Post by valjester Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:49 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Right now the only place Earls could get in an Irish 23 is 13 as all wingers and fullbacks are playing better than him, Darcy is playing better at 12. BOD needs to up it but as captain he should make it in to the 13 jersey rightly or wrongly.


Earls will be starting somewhere.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:49 pm

How can that be a penalty against Munster?
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