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Final Showdown - who you think gonna win
Final Showdown Murray vs Djokovoic
First topic message reminder :
Everything is going by the plan, it was very much anticipated Murray - Djoko finals, however some might disagree majority including bookies expected it. In my view Murray is the form horse of the tournament even ahead of Djoko right now. Lets do Swot analysis
Murray perspective -
Strengths -
New Aggressive play [was able to stand with Fed]
Backhand at its full flow
Faced a Sterner opponent in semi's
Best Wheels
New found belief to beat top dogs.
Learning to be calm under pressure
Weakness
Mid Match focus lapse
Opportunities
To become No.1 later this year
Multiple GS Achivement
Threats
Djoko's form and favorite turf
Djokovic's perspective -
Strength
Complete game
Favorite turf
Knows opponents game better than his opponent knows of his game.
Better player under pressure
Weakness -
Haven't had a tougher test outside Stan [will be tested for sure by Murray]
Opportunities -
First player in open era to win AO 3 times in a row
Cling on to No.1 with Iron fist.
Threats -
Opponent's belief
Pressure to win as he starts heavy favorite
I predicted Murray to win USO even before the start of USO [ not bragging , but just wanna say I stick to my analysis and portray what my head says more than my heart], I cast Murray as the favourite to win the title at 65-35 % , I always love to give high percentage rather than sticking my neck and say its too close to predict.
Djoko's form is very scary but the pressure is on him to win and that will favour Murray this time around, I would be pleasently surprised if Murray doesn't win come Sunday. Whats your view guys?
Everything is going by the plan, it was very much anticipated Murray - Djoko finals, however some might disagree majority including bookies expected it. In my view Murray is the form horse of the tournament even ahead of Djoko right now. Lets do Swot analysis
Murray perspective -
Strengths -
New Aggressive play [was able to stand with Fed]
Backhand at its full flow
Faced a Sterner opponent in semi's
Best Wheels
New found belief to beat top dogs.
Learning to be calm under pressure
Weakness
Mid Match focus lapse
Opportunities
To become No.1 later this year
Multiple GS Achivement
Threats
Djoko's form and favorite turf
Djokovic's perspective -
Strength
Complete game
Favorite turf
Knows opponents game better than his opponent knows of his game.
Better player under pressure
Weakness -
Haven't had a tougher test outside Stan [will be tested for sure by Murray]
Opportunities -
First player in open era to win AO 3 times in a row
Cling on to No.1 with Iron fist.
Threats -
Opponent's belief
Pressure to win as he starts heavy favorite
I predicted Murray to win USO even before the start of USO [ not bragging , but just wanna say I stick to my analysis and portray what my head says more than my heart], I cast Murray as the favourite to win the title at 65-35 % , I always love to give high percentage rather than sticking my neck and say its too close to predict.
Djoko's form is very scary but the pressure is on him to win and that will favour Murray this time around, I would be pleasently surprised if Murray doesn't win come Sunday. Whats your view guys?
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Re: Final Showdown Murray vs Djokovoic
You've all got to sit through this for another 3 hours more. Good luck in staying awake for that. Work out time
Josiah Maiestas- Posts : 6700
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Easy to stay awake as it is fantastic tennis.
R!skysports- Posts : 3667
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315 in the am, and what a close and tense match sorry some aren't enjoying it but I am loving it.
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Re: Final Showdown Murray vs Djokovoic
BB Novak has been to the net 30 times how is that you see murray having more variety?
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Great play by both guys. Craig those thin margins we are talking about
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i got to go to bed dammit
socal1976- Posts : 14212
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Re: Final Showdown Murray vs Djokovoic
Only solution for Murray is if Djokovic loses it. He can't win it himself because there isn't the weapons. Who would thought this will be a servefest?
Josiah Maiestas- Posts : 6700
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Re: Final Showdown Murray vs Djokovoic
Not got the weapons - yeah right
He is creaming forehands and backhands, the only reason djok is still in it, is cos he is so good. He is hitting as hard and as deep as any other player now and more than most
What a high quality match. From both players
He is creaming forehands and backhands, the only reason djok is still in it, is cos he is so good. He is hitting as hard and as deep as any other player now and more than most
What a high quality match. From both players
R!skysports- Posts : 3667
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Murray is impressing the piiss out of me, bravo. If he isn't the world #1, he is 1a.
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Josiah do you even understand what you are watching? What do you define as a weapon a 44 magnum?
socal1976- Posts : 14212
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I've only s een about 30 mins now but this is a scrappy affair. Pretty uninspiring stuff.
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People dislike Murray so will ignore what their eyes see. Fact of life.
They still spend time to come on forums to take the p**s which is strange.
They still spend time to come on forums to take the p**s which is strange.
R!skysports- Posts : 3667
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come on guys lets be honest, this is uninspiring and boring stuff, i dont blame them for not taking the risk and going for some winners, this is simply too much retrieve and and hope the other guy hits long or in the net, crowd hardly in the match.
if this is the future then its a boring one indeed.
if this is the future then its a boring one indeed.
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What are you talking about boring? I am loving it.
socal1976- Posts : 14212
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What. They are going for it. These shots would blow every other player away (and did). But because they are so mobile they are not winners.
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Re: Final Showdown Murray vs Djokovoic
Murray is untouchable on first serve right now, I have never seen Novak so clueless in returning the first serve, what heart from both guys
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Each to his own, but I agree. You have to be very emotionally committed to either player to see this as entertaining.enoughisenough wrote:come on guys lets be honest, this is uninspiring and boring stuff, i dont blame them for not taking the risk and going for some winners, this is simply too much retrieve and and hope the other guy hits long or in the net, crowd hardly in the match.
if this is the future then its a boring one indeed.
bogbrush- Posts : 11169
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Boring procession of service holds. Karlovic and Isner are proud.
Josiah Maiestas- Posts : 6700
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Novak don't get passive because Murray called the trainer.
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They are both allergic to the net.
Murray looks a little tired now.
Murray looks a little tired now.
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Re: Final Showdown Murray vs Djokovoic
They are both playing very very similar tennis.
Even AO 2012 last year Djoko took the role of the position of playing further up the court, while Nadal stood slightly behind the baseline and tried to play more counter-punching tennis.
This match their court position is the same, their serving is as good as each other, and their game is practically identical.
Don't get me wrong, I like watch both Djokovic and Murray, but probably not when they're playing each other.
Even AO 2012 last year Djoko took the role of the position of playing further up the court, while Nadal stood slightly behind the baseline and tried to play more counter-punching tennis.
This match their court position is the same, their serving is as good as each other, and their game is practically identical.
Don't get me wrong, I like watch both Djokovic and Murray, but probably not when they're playing each other.
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Wrong.bogbrush wrote:They are both allergic to the net.
Djokovic has gone to the net 29 times, and has converted 26 of those.
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That is through 2 sets imbl by the way. And what a man Novak, incredible fight to get the break.
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Novak's foreahnd finally clicking.
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I wonder what the character of the shot he went to handle. Short lob, weak retrieval, put away? I suspect so.It Must Be Love wrote:Wrong.bogbrush wrote:They are both allergic to the net.
Djokovic has gone to the net 29 times, and has converted 26 of those.
That's not net play.
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This championship is almost assured now. Awful returning performance from Andy so this was deserved. Cya pusher.
Josiah Maiestas- Posts : 6700
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Braveheart is taking a fit to the umpire now. What a surprise it was never his fault.
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Yes, but it means he doesn't suffer allergies towards the net material.bogbrush wrote:I wonder what the character of the shot he went to handle. Short lob, weak retrieval, put away? I suspect so.It Must Be Love wrote:Wrong.bogbrush wrote:They are both allergic to the net.
Djokovic has gone to the net 29 times, and has converted 26 of those.
That's not net play.
Unless his allergies only occur when it's a difficult volley
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What a backhand Novak, now murray is up against it 0-30 first service game
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Game Set Match Djokovic
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Oh ok, to clarify I didn't mean he actually broke out in a reaction to the net. I meant they don't go near it unless required.
Did I really have to explain that?
Did I really have to explain that?
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great fight by murray he hit that line by a 1/8th of an inch
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Yes, I'm kidding BB (about the taking allergies literally thing).bogbrush wrote:Oh ok, to clarify I didn't mean he actually broke out in a reaction to the net.
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Its almost 4 in the AM and I am loving this sheet.
socal1976- Posts : 14212
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What an approach shot and net winner from Murray
R!skysports- Posts : 3667
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Wow what a passing shot and an even better volley by Murray amazing volley off an amazing pass
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Djokovic should thank Federer if he wins this now. For bringing the match to a 5th set on Friday. The Swiss man always has a say in who wins the slams.
Josiah Maiestas- Posts : 6700
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Most of these shots would be easy winners against everyone else. What high level of tennis
R!skysports- Posts : 3667
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Is Murray going to possum the possum?
CAS- Posts : 1313
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Murray showing great fight
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Unless Nadal is playing.Josiah Maiestas wrote:The Swiss man always has a say in who wins the slams.
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Now Novak in big trouble how do you miss that forehand Novak?
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I really don't think they would. Majority of shots here are relatively 'safe'; apart from a few exceptions of course.Riskysports wrote:Most of these shots would be easy winners against everyone else.
I do agree with that though, in it's own way this match is very high level. Superb defence, movement, and when players get a chance they attack well with precision.Riskysports wrote:
What high level of tennis
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Novak first serve percentage really dipping hre
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Murray got a bp chance
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Anyone remember the days when both players used to routinely finish matches in good shape?
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Novak punishing murray with the wide serve on the deuce side
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Now do you guys believe Novak's serve is better from last year?
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