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Final Showdown - who you think gonna win
Final Showdown Murray vs Djokovoic
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Everything is going by the plan, it was very much anticipated Murray - Djoko finals, however some might disagree majority including bookies expected it. In my view Murray is the form horse of the tournament even ahead of Djoko right now. Lets do Swot analysis
Murray perspective -
Strengths -
New Aggressive play [was able to stand with Fed]
Backhand at its full flow
Faced a Sterner opponent in semi's
Best Wheels
New found belief to beat top dogs.
Learning to be calm under pressure
Weakness
Mid Match focus lapse
Opportunities
To become No.1 later this year
Multiple GS Achivement
Threats
Djoko's form and favorite turf
Djokovic's perspective -
Strength
Complete game
Favorite turf
Knows opponents game better than his opponent knows of his game.
Better player under pressure
Weakness -
Haven't had a tougher test outside Stan [will be tested for sure by Murray]
Opportunities -
First player in open era to win AO 3 times in a row
Cling on to No.1 with Iron fist.
Threats -
Opponent's belief
Pressure to win as he starts heavy favorite
I predicted Murray to win USO even before the start of USO [ not bragging , but just wanna say I stick to my analysis and portray what my head says more than my heart], I cast Murray as the favourite to win the title at 65-35 % , I always love to give high percentage rather than sticking my neck and say its too close to predict.
Djoko's form is very scary but the pressure is on him to win and that will favour Murray this time around, I would be pleasently surprised if Murray doesn't win come Sunday. Whats your view guys?
Everything is going by the plan, it was very much anticipated Murray - Djoko finals, however some might disagree majority including bookies expected it. In my view Murray is the form horse of the tournament even ahead of Djoko right now. Lets do Swot analysis
Murray perspective -
Strengths -
New Aggressive play [was able to stand with Fed]
Backhand at its full flow
Faced a Sterner opponent in semi's
Best Wheels
New found belief to beat top dogs.
Learning to be calm under pressure
Weakness
Mid Match focus lapse
Opportunities
To become No.1 later this year
Multiple GS Achivement
Threats
Djoko's form and favorite turf
Djokovic's perspective -
Strength
Complete game
Favorite turf
Knows opponents game better than his opponent knows of his game.
Better player under pressure
Weakness -
Haven't had a tougher test outside Stan [will be tested for sure by Murray]
Opportunities -
First player in open era to win AO 3 times in a row
Cling on to No.1 with Iron fist.
Threats -
Opponent's belief
Pressure to win as he starts heavy favorite
I predicted Murray to win USO even before the start of USO [ not bragging , but just wanna say I stick to my analysis and portray what my head says more than my heart], I cast Murray as the favourite to win the title at 65-35 % , I always love to give high percentage rather than sticking my neck and say its too close to predict.
Djoko's form is very scary but the pressure is on him to win and that will favour Murray this time around, I would be pleasently surprised if Murray doesn't win come Sunday. Whats your view guys?
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Double fault, murray looks spent
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Come on Novak, great up the line forehand. Get the break baby, bring it home
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wow what a serve, great heart murray
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There is the break, Novak is making him suffer for every point like he is torquamada with a racquet
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Murray looks finished, looks in pain every shot
CAS- Posts : 1313
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Murray clearly getting frustrated now. Hitting the ball with more pop than he's used to. I did say Novak would prove Murray's USO was a bit flukey and I look to be proved right.
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If you see this match as safe, how does this differ from most of nadal's play?
I really don't think they would. Majority of shots here are relatively 'safe'; apart from a few exceptions of course.Riskysports wrote:Most of these shots would be easy winners against everyone else.
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If you see this match as safe, how does this differ from most of nadal's play?
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Not a fluke. Both great players and close.
What a bad sport some people are here
What a bad sport some people are here
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I said at the time I felt Murray winning in New York was a touch lucky as the wind dismantled Novaks game, but then Murrays feel, that extra facet to his game allowed him to adapt better
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Great credit to Novak - the balls he retrieves and not only gets but returns with interest is something else. Andy is struggling and can't see anyway back now but it is not a heartbreak as I am sure Andy will be in many more slam finals before he hangs up his racquet.
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Nadal's is much much safer than this.LuvSports! wrote:
If you see this match as safe, how does this differ from most of nadal's play?
He has sh*tloads (if you pardon my French ) of topsin- so he can afford very high net clearance, as he knows the ball can dip in the last moment. If anyone else in the tennis circuit tried to hit the ball with as much net clearance as he did at that pace, the ball would fly way way out.
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Novak has more patience and it is paying off. I'm wondering if Andy's head has dropped. Guess we will see in next few games.
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I agree craig the margins are thin either way it goes murray is going to lift more of the big trophies
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Come on Novak I need my sleep
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Come on don't gift away points like that Novak
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Murray won the USO because of the wind then. Asterisked slam.
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Wow Murray is really gutty
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I notice Newbery getting the blisters mentioned now. Look out for the BBC to go big on those.
What's really cost Murray is how much he had to put into the first two sets.
What's really cost Murray is how much he had to put into the first two sets.
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It goes without saying the massive turning point was the first game of the second set when Andy spurned three break points. A break then and he would have been warm favourite for the set.
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Now Djokovic is on form again. Where was he in the first set?
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Not playing a wiped out opponent.FedsFan wrote:Now Djokovic is on form again. Where was he in the first set?
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Come on Andy, take it to 5 and Joker will pack it in.
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Wow Novak incredible defensive lob
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CaledonianCraig wrote:It goes without saying the massive turning point was the first game of the second set when Andy spurned three break points. A break then and he would have been warm favourite for the set.
Yes, CC that was the turning point. Novak was frustrated and at that point andy was ascendant.
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Novak's stamina is too high for Murray now. Andy has lost half a yard this set he just wants to rest in bed.
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seems like game over, sorry Muzza fans, today his return is the poorest I have seen.
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Novak on the brink of a record here - three back-to-back Aussie Open titles. Something tells me he will be setting many more records as well. For Andy well a third slam final in succession and more ranking points in the bag and a set on the board in a Melbourne Final.
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bogbrush wrote:Not playing a wiped out opponent.FedsFan wrote:Now Djokovic is on form again. Where was he in the first set?
Credit where credit is due BB, Djokovic has finally found his game. The errors are less now and Murray cannot keep up. He shouldn't be wiped out after 3 sets. Everyone has been going on about Murray's fitness. In fact cannot remember who said that Murray looked the fitter of the two at the beginning!
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Andy is still in it with a shout
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The umpire is an idiot for missing that call, what are you there for
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Come on Novak don't relax just yet
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Many reasons for the way the match has panned out like this. Missed opportunities from Murray, the level reached by Novak, Andy's serve has been a tad more erratic and I think Novak has been a tad more aggressive. Also remember Novak is the world No.1 here.
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3 in a row. Just has a bit more skill and too much gas in legs for Murray.
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Also Novak has played the bigger points (in general) better. Next time it could go the other way these two are so closely matched and that is the attraction in it. For all the grace of Fedal matches they had spells where Federer was guaranteed winner in them and then Nadal turned it around and Nadal was always the winner. Djokovic-Nadal matches up have been heavily in Novak's favour. Here though it is far more unpredictable (end result-wise).
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I said this the other day as well, the fact that Murray needed 5 sets to knock Federer out to me suggested he was not invincible. This was the test and unlike New York, Djokovic prevailed.
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This is Novaks turf, I would favour Murray at Wimbledon I hope they play each other there to add another wrinkle to their rivalry. Then again, Federer at almost 32 to win an 8th Wimbledon...I would be in that camp I'm afraid
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Wow Novak got a little tight and lucky in this set
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correction in this game
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Here it is championship point
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Sorry but this final is distinctly underwhelming regardless of who wins it. Endless backhand to backhand returns, no flair, no volleys , no angles . Just who outlasts the other.
We will die of boredom
We will die of boredom
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Well played Novak and hard lines Andy.
Is there the outside chance of Novak doing the impossible and winning all four slams this year?
Is there the outside chance of Novak doing the impossible and winning all four slams this year?
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Your 2013 Australian open champion and still the king of the hard stuff
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Well played and well deserved by djoker
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coolpixel wrote:Sorry but this final is distinctly underwhelming regardless of who wins it. Endless backhand to backhand returns, no flair, no volleys , no angles . Just who outlasts the other.
We will die of boredom
But you watched it to the end?? How odd.
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Congrats to Djokovic! Equals Emmo's 3-AOs-in-row.
Well played Murray.
Well played Murray.
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I don't think so craig Andy is really close, Rafa is coming back and Roger is still a big threat at wimbeldon
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CaledonianCraig wrote:Novak on the brink of a record here - three back-to-back Aussie Open titles. Something tells me he will be setting many more records as well. For Andy well a third slam final in succession and more ranking points in the bag and a set on the board in a Melbourne Final.
While Novak played poor Andy played pathetic, one of the worst finals I have seen I am sorry.
But Congrats Novak for the incredible achievement .
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CaledonianCraig wrote:coolpixel wrote:Sorry but this final is distinctly underwhelming regardless of who wins it. Endless backhand to backhand returns, no flair, no volleys , no angles . Just who outlasts the other.
We will die of boredom
But you watched it to the end?? How odd.
Not sure they know what angles are, as I saw balls cross court, down the line, volleys , drop shots and a very entertaining match.
Haters will be haters
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But what a great performance by such a deserving champion. Its 430 in the AM where you at murdoch.
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CaledonianCraig wrote:coolpixel wrote:Sorry but this final is distinctly underwhelming regardless of who wins it. Endless backhand to backhand returns, no flair, no volleys , no angles . Just who outlasts the other.
We will die of boredom
But you watched it to the end?? How odd.
The climax specially 4th was the poorest in terms of quality.
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