England Vs. Scotland 16H00 2/2/13 6N build up and Match thread

by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 28 Jan 2013, 12:28 pm

First topic message reminder :

Well I'll extend a warm welcome to our English cousins in our build up and match thread.

Let’s set the standard for these threads by not WUMing and having a good banter and an insightful discussion rose

The summer of 2012 was a loving affair as Scots were cheering on Ennis, Farrah and Wiggins. Whilst the English were cheering on the likes of Hoy, Murray and Grainger. All that is now a distant memory as the oldest fixture in rugby is set to be a highlight of the opening weekend.

So where are we? England coming in fresh of a stunning victory against the seemingly invincible All Blacks, whereas Scotland are coming into the match after a dire run of matches that saw Robinson fall on his sword.

Last year Lancaster's England was the unknown element and tipped to be defeated by Scotland who wanted vengeance for their 2011 RWC loss. The at Murrayfield game took an unexpected turn as Scotland butchered chance after chance and charge down Charlie showed us why Parks should have stayed in retirement.

Fast forward 1 year and it's a role reversal. Scotland with a new coach and a new attitude of Play well 1st, win games 2nd. I for one have no idea what to expect from Scotland in this tournament.

England though have set their stall out in the Autumn a convincing win against NZ but the quietly forgotten loss to the underwhelming Wallabies the week before swept, discreetly under the carpet.

No doubt England will be going in confident and the Scots will be... well going in with not many expectations at all.

Scotland have named Kelly Brown as captain and it's a well-earned accolade. The Sarries blindisde has been in excellent form all year and is the best choice for the job.

England are still sweating over the Tuilagi injury and despite saying there will be no special treatment it seems he is getting every opportunity to become match fit...

England Squad

rose

15. Alex Goode (Saracens, 6 caps)
14. Chris Ashton (Saracens, 29 caps)
13. Brad Barritt (Saracens, 11 caps)
12. Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 0 caps)
11. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 11 caps)
10. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 12 caps)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 28 caps)

1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 5 caps)
2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 4 cap)
3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 35 caps)
4. Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 4 caps)
5. Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers, 12 caps)
6. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 13 caps)
7. Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt, 12 caps)
8. Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 9 caps)

Replacements
16. Dylan Hartley (London Irish, 42 caps)
17. David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 22 caps)
18. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 4 caps)
19. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 15 caps)
20. James Haskell (London Wasps, 45 caps)
21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 37 caps)
22. Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers, 53 caps)
23. David Strettle (London Irish, 12 caps)

Scotland

Braveheart

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors)
14 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors)
13 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors)
12 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby)
11 Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby)
10 Ruaridh Jackson (Glasgow Warriors)
9 Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby) [VC]

1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) [VC]
2 Dougie Hall (Glasgow Warriors)
3 Euan Murray (Worcester Warriors)
4 Richie Gray (Sale Sharks)
5 Jim Hamilton (Gloucester Rugby)
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan)
7 Kelly Brown (Saracens) [C]
8 Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier)

Substitutes:
16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby)
17 Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors)
18 Geoff Cross (Edinburgh Rugby)
19 Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors)
20 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby)
21 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors)
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors)
23 Max Evans (Castres)

by doctor_grey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:08 pm

Bad, panic-type mistakes. England need to calm down, just a bit.

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:09 pm

nathan wrote:36 passed to the wrong team, hopefully he settles.

I had to think who were on about then... laughing

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:09 pm

Moore's off on about the laws not being adhered to...

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:09 pm

I am still thinking about that singer!!

jeas..

by glamorganalun Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:11 pm

Is it me but Scotland's defence looks very weak, Visser for a big guy is poor in defence.

by nathan Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:11 pm

England picking up from where they left off with the breakdown work.

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:11 pm

GWAAAN SCOTLAND TA FOOOOK!

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

OMG - they run straight through us..

lol

by doctor_grey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

Mike Brown is an idiot.
Exactlywhy I don't rate him.

by eirebilly Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

Try Scotland Very Happy

by nathan Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

Forward pass!

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

Maitland scores on his debut! clap

3-5 before conversion at ten minutes.

by Solent Lady Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

Note to oneself....get off 606v2 and watch the bloody game!
Oh bloody hell, Scotland have a try :-(

by TJ1 Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

by **Pal Joey** Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

Maitland!

by glamorganalun Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:12 pm

Great missed tackle for Ashton

by Geordie Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:13 pm

It's like dejavu from last night....where's the tackles!!!!!!

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:13 pm

Conversion missed, but it was an awkward angle.

3-5 at eleven minutes. Maitland is a Kiwi... Wink

by eirebilly Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:13 pm

Linebreaker wrote:Maitland!

Smell one of your own breaker? LOL

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:14 pm

eirebilly wrote:
Linebreaker wrote:Maitland!
Smell one of your own breaker? LOL

No that's the English fans schitting themselves... Wink

by **Pal Joey** Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:15 pm

eirebilly wrote:
Linebreaker wrote:Maitland!
Smell one of your own breaker? LOL

you cheeky feicer... don't come the raw prawn with me now!

by eirebilly Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:15 pm

Linebreaker wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
Linebreaker wrote:Maitland!
Smell one of your own breaker? LOL

you cheeky feicer... don't come the raw prawn with me now!

Had to be said Wink

by Barney McGrew did it Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:15 pm

Here's a tip for SL - find yourself a winger and put him on the wing. Just saying.

by **Pal Joey** Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:15 pm

"Maitland going over................ for Scotland." Smile

by Artful_Dodger Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:16 pm

Pathetic attempts at tackles early on from Visser and Goode.

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:16 pm

Farrell kicks a second penalty.

6-5 at 14 minutes.

by nathan Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:16 pm

Barney McGrew did it wrote:Here's a tip for SL - find yourself a winger and put him on the wing. Just saying.

Worked fine last game. Just saying...

by doctor_grey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:17 pm

Barney McGrew did it wrote:Here's a tip for SL - find yourself a winger and put him on the wing. Just saying.

agree 100%, Brains are also a criteria.

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:17 pm

yeah i dont think any off us are quite doing that yet cari.. It was there only touch of the ball..

Love the way farrel kicks the ball- Like a low penetrating wedge that has kbs extra stiff shafts!

Love that ball flight..

by nathan Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:17 pm

Ref got that completely wrong!

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:17 pm

Good take Robshaw...

by EnglishReign Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:18 pm

Pathetic defending after dominating first 10

by eirebilly Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:19 pm

Jaysus Ireland watch that England scrum next match. Quick ball needed or England will push strongly.

by nathan Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:21 pm

England building the scoreboard nicely.

by eirebilly Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:22 pm

Wow, that was dumb from England. 3 points back for Scotland (well should be)

by doctor_grey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:22 pm

England do look pretty good when taking the ball up. Would like to see Morgan keep getting the ball until he runs out of puff.

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:23 pm

Two penalties later and it's 9-8 at 20 minutes.

Good grief... did you see that arrse in the crowd dancing?

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:24 pm

Come on Scotland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done Visser!

by nathan Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:25 pm

England trying to play too much here. Would like to see t. Young carry more.

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:25 pm

visser your dutch- play for your own team!

by EnglishReign Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:26 pm

Scotland just playing on our mistakes. Need to sharpen up.

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:26 pm

mystiroakey wrote:visser your dutch- play for your own team!

Not according to the residency rule which I think England have benefitted from too... Whistle

by eirebilly Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:28 pm

Cari wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:visser your dutch- play for your own team!

Not according to the residency rule which I think England have benefitted from too...

Dont bite

England looking very good with the ball in hand

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:28 pm

Oh dear...I thought England were going to score then. Penalty Scotland.

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:29 pm

at least england are trying to play from the off in this game- very positive.. i doubt scotland can maintain fitness

by nathan Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:29 pm

I like the positive stuff from England here, hope its not at the expense of winning.

by Cari Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:29 pm

Ashton showing his class there... Rolling Eyes

by Barney McGrew did it Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:29 pm

Jeez England having so much of the play and then get over excited or dopey. Bring back the 11-plus.

by BamBam Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:30 pm

Combination of 36 and Barritt has shown a few glimpses

by ChequeredJersey Sat 02 Feb 2013, 4:30 pm

Really angry with Brown for Scotland's try

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