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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

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Breaking News: Former London Irish boss stnick88 returns in charge of Worcester Warriors and Quins win the top of the table clash with Tigers to narrow the gap between the two teams to a single point.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.



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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Feb 2013, 4:35 pm

Big question is do they throw in Manu if he is fit, and who for 36 shouldn't be dropped but case can be fought for Barritt's defence against BOD might be vital.

Personally if he is 100% he should come back in at 13 with Barritt onto bench. Need to pick our strongest side and Manu undoubtedly in that side.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Feb 2013, 4:36 pm

Fraser has really come on this year, Lancaster is doing really well with giving the youngsters a chance to train with full England squad, he did it with Henry Thomas too.

Surely going to be Haskell, Robshaw and Wood after Haskells impact from the bench, thought that he had a really solid game. He doesn't make the 50metre breaks like he used to but his tackling and presence is very good.

Am sure BV has a slight knock at the moment too, so that might have an effect.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Feb 2013, 4:37 pm

Steve there's quite a lot of talk that I've seen about potentially starting Manu on the wing and keeping centre combo as it was.

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Post by Driver Mon 04 Feb 2013, 4:38 pm

I'm sure i heard that somewhere as well Chris. Mike Brown dropping to the bench.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Feb 2013, 4:40 pm

Goode should be dropped and Brown to full back if that's the case. Travesty if Brown is dropped and Goode stays in.

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Post by Driver Mon 04 Feb 2013, 4:42 pm

It think Brown on the bench is more so to do with him covering wing.

Goode has had one iffy game whilst Brown wasn't great either so it would be a joke if Goode was dropped.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Feb 2013, 4:49 pm

BV wouldn't start, not a chance.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Feb 2013, 4:55 pm

Why isn't dropping Brown a joke then? He was excellent throughout the AI's whereas I don't think Goode was and he has maintained his excellent form throughout most of the last two seasons.

To me Brown is a better full back than Goode and offers much more to the England side. If one of those is to be dropped for Manu then for me the choice is obvious.

Wouldn't play Manu as a wing myself though so hopefully it is all what if's. Likelihood is both Brown and Goode will keep there place.

My side would be

1. Marler
2. Youngs
3. Cole
4. Launchbury
5. Parling
6. Wood
7. Robshaw
8. Haskell
9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Brown
12. Twelvetrees
13. Manu
14. Ashton
15. Goode

16. Hartley
17. Mako
18. Wilson
19. Lawes
20. Billy V
21. Care
22. Flood/Burns
23. Barritt/Foden

We need some x factor to beat Ireland I think. Can't see us just bullying them and kicking points. Hard to not see them scoring tries so we will have to as well. That is where Manu comes in. He and 36 could be lethal as a pair.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:06 pm

I'd recall HArtley to the starting lineup this weekend, but would agree witht he rest of your team Steve. Think Burns is available the next round.

Trouble also is that I don't thin Barritt is a bench player, you either start him or drop him completely, which would be harsh!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:13 pm

That would my side Steve.

I thought Brown looked off when he went to FB

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:14 pm

Hartley has done nothing to deserve to recalled but he may start due to experience

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:19 pm

I would back Youngs but get him working on chucking this week. We can't afford to have a weak lineout against Ireland.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:25 pm

It's 50/50 Steve.

Youngs adds a lot more in loose, he's a dynamo around the park.

Scotland have a better defensive lineout than Ireland so I think it'll be easier there

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:29 pm

Donnacha Ryan very good at stealing though. Really impressed me. He is a Lion in waiting I suspect.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:32 pm

Yea he's a good lock.

Up in the air the Lions locks with POC injury and Gray not playing well.

Launchbury & Ryan look form pair, Launchbury really classy will def tour

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Post by Driver Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:37 pm

From this opening weekend the Lions for me will be

1.Healy
2.Best
3.Cole
4.Launchbury
5.Ryan
6.SOB
7.Brown
8.Beattie

9.Youngs
10.Farrell
11.Ashton
12.12T
13.BOD
14.Zebo
15.Kearney
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Post by Fluxy Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:41 pm

Would have halfpenny in for Ashton and a compare different back row.

6. OMahony
7. Tipuric
8. Morgan

Based on the weekend.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Feb 2013, 5:43 pm

Gray, Ryan, launchbury, parling and McCarthy for me

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Post by Driver Mon 04 Feb 2013, 10:26 pm

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Feb 2013, 10:49 pm

sack that forgot Nathan Hines. He goes ahead of McCarthy.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 05 Feb 2013, 10:18 am

Horwill is back Yahoo

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8471929,00.html

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Post by Fluxy Tue 05 Feb 2013, 11:54 am

Interesting call, very talented attacker. Not sure he'd have the right mentality in defence however;

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_8472013,00.html

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Post by Driver Tue 05 Feb 2013, 12:49 pm

http://www.bdlive.co.za/sport/rugby/2013/02/04/cheetahs-juan-smith-rebound-against-the-stormers

Juan Smith played a blinder in his return against the Stormers.
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Post by Driver Tue 05 Feb 2013, 12:49 pm

http://www.3news.co.nz/Brad-Thorn-to-make-Highlanders-debut/tabid/415/articleID/285249/Default.aspx

Big Brad back aswell!
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Post by Driver Tue 05 Feb 2013, 2:25 pm

Scotland: Stuart Hogg, Sean Maitland, Sean Lamont, Matt Scott, Tim Visser, Ruaridh Jackson, Greig Laidlaw; Ryan Grant, Ross Ford, Euan Murray, Richie Gray, Jim Hamilton, Rob Harley, Kelly Brown, Johnnie Beattie

Replacements: Dougie Hall or Pat MacArthur, Moray Low, Geoff Cross, Alastair Kellock, David Denton, Henry Pyrgos, Duncan Weir, Max Evans
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 05 Feb 2013, 2:29 pm

Should be a great game against the Italians.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 05 Feb 2013, 2:31 pm

This article also implies that it will be Wood at 8 and Haskell at 6 for England on sunday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21327566

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Post by Driver Tue 05 Feb 2013, 2:49 pm

http://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/rugbyunion/view/375675/Stuart-Lancaster-England-can-carve-Tom-Wood-into-new-No8

Wood at 8.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Feb 2013, 3:52 pm

Strange, when has Wood played 8??

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 05 Feb 2013, 3:58 pm

Claims to have been working on it with him at training. Interesting to see how it works, but to be honest it is a risk as the Wood/Robshaw combo has been working a treat on the flanks.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Feb 2013, 4:35 pm

Might be a ploy to put the Irish off

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 05 Feb 2013, 7:03 pm

Lancaster has retained 25 players including Billy V and Waldrom

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 05 Feb 2013, 9:58 pm

Only thing that worries me about the England squad going forward is a lack of genuine pace.

Steve, do you know if Morgan counts as one of the 25 players retained as heard he is staying with England for treatment.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 05 Feb 2013, 10:10 pm

Looks like this story isn't going away, I reckon there is some truth behind it - no smoke without a fire and all that;

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8473588,00.html

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 05 Feb 2013, 10:16 pm

not sure mate. He is very unlikely to play is all i know

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 06 Feb 2013, 9:40 am

Kvesic to Gloucester confirmed

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Post by stnick88 Wed 06 Feb 2013, 10:14 am

great signing.

with mullan gone and goode off, they will need some big recruitment to be competitive next year.

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Post by Driver Wed 06 Feb 2013, 10:40 am

Wuss have signed creevy and mires
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Feb 2013, 10:44 am

Creevy the hooker?

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 06 Feb 2013, 11:38 am

Yep the hooker.

I reckon Myall will be next to confirm then we need a big lock and I'll be happy
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Feb 2013, 11:53 am

That's quite a coup, Creevy is a quality hooker.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 06 Feb 2013, 11:53 am

I think Garvey, Joseph, Watson and Sisi all going to Bath and Gibson to Leicester.

Steve you confident of beating Exeter Friday? Wouldnt go as far to say its must win but its one of the remaining games left which Diamond would target and say we need to win. I'd like to think we could get something from Saracens on Saturday. We are on good form and Saracens are missing some key players.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 06 Feb 2013, 12:39 pm

That's shoite news Nick. Some top English talent going there. Strangely I am not so fussed by JJ and Gibson going, gutted about the other three though.

I see that Guy Armitage is going to be staying with us for another two seasons though, which is a positive, as he's been decent when I've seen him this year.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 06 Feb 2013, 1:50 pm

We have a good chance but not exactly confident. Cips is playing very well and we are on the back of two good wins against Scarlets and Wasps.

Looking forward to it to be honest. One of the games we need to win.

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Feb 2013, 4:51 pm

When is the next foreign? Trying to work out whether to hold on until next window ?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 06 Feb 2013, 5:00 pm

I would guess the summer Matt.

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Feb 2013, 5:02 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:Horwill is back Yahoo

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8471929,00.html

He is out again Luke

Says up to 4 weeks on rugby heaven

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3824_8474730,00.html

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 06 Feb 2013, 5:15 pm

Turned an ankle in training. Tough on someone coming back from 9 months rehab.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 06 Feb 2013, 5:19 pm

"It's disappointing he won't get some time in this game but it's just a tweak that delays his return a week."

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Feb 2013, 5:19 pm

You will always get a minor set back like a pull or rolled ankle. It's almost expected

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