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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

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Breaking News: Former London Irish boss stnick88 returns in charge of Worcester Warriors and Quins win the top of the table clash with Tigers to narrow the gap between the two teams to a single point.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.



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Post by Fluxy Wed 06 Feb 2013, 9:05 pm

Also noticed Wuss have signed Senatore the Argie flanker/8, he's a very tidy player. Forced Lobbe to play blindside a bit during the Rugby Championship

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 06 Feb 2013, 11:39 pm

Have they also signed Paul Warwick the Stade flyhalf, he's a good little player - not signing much English though!

Kvesvic is a great signing for Worcester, they look like they are club that will really challenge the top4 next year. The AP is getting very competitive now, just hope Wasps can sign a couple more, we're a prop, hooker, flyhalf and no8 away from being a really good team.

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Post by Driver Wed 06 Feb 2013, 11:51 pm

Wuss will have a decent back line next year

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Post by stnick88 Thu 07 Feb 2013, 9:23 am

Driver to me that is a weak backline. Matavesi is poor. Clarke is ok but not what he used to be. Walker and Pennall are average. Hodgson is past it. Mieres is decent as is Warwick.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 07 Feb 2013, 10:03 am

Hodgson has look better for Worcester this year than he did for us last year. Agree though Nick,, it's not a great backline.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 07 Feb 2013, 10:15 am

France:

15 Yoann Huget, 14 Wesley Fofana, 13 Mathieu Bastareaud, 12 Maxime Mermoz, 11 Benjamin Fall, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Maxime Machenaud, 8 Louis Picamoles, 7 Fulgence Ouedraogo, 6 Thierry Dusautoir, 5 Yoann Maestri, 4 Jocelino Suta, 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 Dimitri Szarzewski, 1 Yannick Forestier

Replacements: 16 Benjamin Kayser, 17 Vincent Debaty, 18 Luc Ducalcon, 19 Romain Taofifenua, 20 Damien Chouly, 21 Morgan Parra, 22 Francois Trinh-Duc, 23 Florian Fritz.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 10:44 am

LukeLovesLuka wrote:France:

15 Yoann Huget, 14 Wesley Fofana, 13 Mathieu Bastareaud, 12 Maxime Mermoz, 11 Benjamin Fall, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Maxime Machenaud, 8 Louis Picamoles, 7 Fulgence Ouedraogo, 6 Thierry Dusautoir, 5 Yoann Maestri, 4 Jocelino Suta, 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 Dimitri Szarzewski, 1 Yannick Forestier

Replacements: 16 Benjamin Kayser, 17 Vincent Debaty, 18 Luc Ducalcon, 19 Romain Taofifenua, 20 Damien Chouly, 21 Morgan Parra, 22 Francois Trinh-Duc, 23 Florian Fritz.

Anyone got a white flag?! sounds like Tipuric's starting so that's a positive
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:26 am

Prop who would you have at no10 - Biggar or Hook?

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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:32 am

I'd have Hook if i was Welsh.
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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:33 am

Hearing Tuilagi is on the bench for this week....
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:51 am

If it is because he isn't 100% match fit I can see why, but if not I think we could have done with someone who could win a match for us instead of being able to contain the opposition.

Should be a great game, think our front five can get an upper hand and then it is all about how we cope with their backrow.

Would like to see us have another player in our back three with a bit more pace though, just not sure who!

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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:53 am

Think it's more that with D'Arcy and Drico tiring after about 55 mins Tuilagi could really come into his own.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:56 am

Hope Twelvetrees continues to push on now, he looked very good last week. Big test for him this week.

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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:02 pm

Looks ready made for it, Glad we have a lot of calm heads in the backline now.

Faz , 12T and Goode really do seem to be able to just make everything look easy.
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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:07 pm

If any fancies a insight into SL mind.

http://www.rfu.com/takingpart/coach/coachresourcearchive/technicaljournalarchive/~/media/Files/2009/Coaching/Articles/TechnicalJournal/2006/2ndQuarter/Stuart20Lancaster2.ashx


Sam Warburton ruled out of France game.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:08 pm

WALES: Leigh Halfpenny, Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North, Dan Biggar, Mike Phillips, Gethin Jenkins, Richard Hibbard, Adam Jones, Andrew Coombs, Ian Evans, Ryan Jones (CAPT), Justin Tipuric, Toby Faletau.

Replacements: Ken Owens, Paul James, Craig Mitchell, Lou Reed, Aaron Shingler, Lloyd Williams, James Hook, Scott Williams.

Wales have released James King, Ryan Bevington, (Ospreys), Josh Turnbull (Scarlets), Josh Navidi, Scott Andrews and Andries Pretorius (all Blues) back to their regions for this weekend's action. Unavailable for selection due to injury were Sam Warburton (Blues), Eli Walker (Ospreys), Olly Kohn (Harlequins) and Tavis Knoyle (Scarlets).

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:09 pm

Goode makes things look easy as he rarely does anything challenging!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:11 pm

Warburton won't be missed, that probably Wales strongest backrow available even when everybody is fully fit

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:13 pm

We'll see.

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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:15 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Goode makes things look easy as he rarely does anything challenging!

Because he's so good , takes a good player to have time on the ball.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:16 pm

Not when your a full back it doesn't.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:26 pm

Steve, Warburton has been terrible. He shouldn't be in the Welsh starting lineup, I've not talked to any Welsh fans who think he should.

Tipuric has played great most of the season and looked much better Warburton when he's got on the park for Wales.

I'm a big Warburton fan but he's either been unfit all year or he possibly not as good as 1 previous season has suggested.

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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:34 pm

He's been England's best full back over the last 3 years. Foden brings nothing besides running fast and running fast. Brown can't create a 2nd attacking line.

I'd as far as saying if Armitage wasn't such a k nob my 3 England full backs would be Goode , Armitage and Brown.
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:45 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Steve, Warburton has been terrible. He shouldn't be in the Welsh starting lineup, I've not talked to any Welsh fans who think he should.

Tipuric has played great most of the season and looked much better Warburton when he's got on the park for Wales.

I'm a big Warburton fan but he's either been unfit all year or he possibly not as good as 1 previous season has suggested.

Agreed, really not a shingler fan either! Good 2nd row and back row for us
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Post by stnick88 Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:46 pm

Brown has been the best for me.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:49 pm

I was out in Cardiff last night Prop!

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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:50 pm

He shagged a sheep
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:52 pm

And where was my invite?! I was at the cinema in town!!

Driver; you need to go 10 miles north-west of cardiff for sheep
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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:52 pm

Into to the Valleys.....
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:54 pm

He has not been close I can't agree with that at all. Both Brown and Foden considerably better over the last 3 years.

His defence is average at best and he doesn't offer enough of a running threat. I don't buy into this creativity line either. I don't see him creating a great deal against anyone but Fiji.

I am not saying Warburton has been good Pooly but I do think Wales will miss him though. Tipuric is being treated as the second coming and I just don't think he will cut the mustard. Fair enough that he gets his start as he has been good, but I'm just not convinced by him. I'd be very shocked if Warburton doesn't come good again in an international shirt. If Warbs injury is genuine then ok, but I'd have been intrigued to see if he was properly dropped by Howley without saying he's injured.



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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:55 pm

Yep and good luck escaping!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:04 pm

It was a last minute one Prop, I should have give you a shout.

I was working at St Athan and went in with the lads to watch the football, canny night out.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:10 pm

Out with lads from st athen/ely, your brave most of my caseload is ely!! Next time let me know!!

steve: tipuric is very very good at doing unseen work, his pace is great and he's
A different player compared to warburton. I'd give my right arm to have Lydiate fit!!
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:28 pm

Would definitely have Brown and Foden as far better than Goode, who is a tidy player and a good ball player but for me doesn't offer enough in attack or defence. He needs a bit more pace and physicality to be a top international 15.

Foden is a lot more than just pace, very solid defensively, one of the best line breakers in the AP and sets up a lot of tries for Saints. Also doesn't let opposition fullbacks run through him. He's come back into some good form last 2-3 weeks too.

Brown has been the best fullback by far this season, has improved so much since doing the speed training with Margaret Wells (think that is who it was), best boot in the league and again top rate in defence. Would have him at 15 for England as first choice right now.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:39 pm

Brown & Foden aren't "far better" than Goode, that's a brainless statement.

Goode was average against the Jocks but he's been great since nailing the 15 jersey and it was his second game back from injury. He probably shouldn't have started tbh.

Foden has gas but needs more to his game. Also needs to find some form as he's been poor this season.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:45 pm

Goode had good games against a woeful Fiji and a drained All Blacks. Wasn't much cop against the Scots or Saffers. He brings some much needed creativity but I fear he hasn't the pace to be a top international and if 36 continues to settle in he won't be needed by England.

To say above hes been the best English fullback of the last 3 years is laughable. Foden was considered world class only 1/2 years ago and Browns run at Quins for the last 18 months has been phenominal. What specs are you wearing Driver? Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:48 pm

Yea agree Johnny, if 36 nails the 12 jersey there's less of a need for a playmaking 15.

Not sure I'd start Foden though, just looks so off his game.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:50 pm

Not really a brainless statement at all, just opinion - sorry but I don't rate Goode as someone to take England forward, would have Foden, Brown and Goode in that order if all were in form. Currently Brown has been playing the best out of any fb in England for Quins.

Foden has far more than just gas too - only thing he hasn't got is a top class kicking game, but that's been improving.

SJE think you could be right about Twelvetrees, if he keeps playing like that then we can go back to getting a strike runner from 15.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:51 pm

I think he's wearing Poolys SJE Wink
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Post by Driver Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:53 pm

Could be worse , could be wearing Chris's and praising Niall Morris....
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:54 pm

To say Foden & Brown are "much better" is brainless as they aren't.

I can understand you rating them both higher.

Foden has very little kicking game but he's a good player. Just is in terrible form.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 1:56 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:I think he's wearing Poolys SJE Wink

I don't have any, I don't have a team to big up Sad

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 6:36 pm

Is morgan available for me?
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 07 Feb 2013, 7:09 pm

Prop if he isnt in the match day 23 then absolutely fine to play.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 7:25 pm

When does it gert announced?!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 07 Feb 2013, 7:34 pm

Tomorrow, so you need to make a decision, as do others waiting for the announcement. Either include him and if he is in the matchday squad for England you will end up one light in your matchday squad, or play it safe and leave him out.
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 8:02 pm

I'm guessing I can play gorgodze then seeing as others are playing georgian's?
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 07 Feb 2013, 8:15 pm

Only tier 1 internationals count in this game so Georgians are available. I thought I heard somewhere that Gorgodze got banned though, might need to check.
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 8:21 pm

I genuinely can't find anything, i'm guessing he'll be cited for the fight but can'[t see if there's been a result yet....anyone have a good site to check?
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 07 Feb 2013, 8:35 pm

Hasn't been cited yet Prop, he may get away with it!

He's certainly one of the rugby players you wouldnt want to get punched by, Jim Hamilton could be another! There must be a top 5 people you wouldn't want to get punched by on a rugby pitch by...

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