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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

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Breaking News: Former London Irish boss stnick88 returns in charge of Worcester Warriors and Quins win the top of the table clash with Tigers to narrow the gap between the two teams to a single point.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.



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Post by Driver Sun 17 Feb 2013, 11:42 pm

Tomkins?

Who's the doubts in the midfield?
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Post by Fluxy Sun 17 Feb 2013, 11:43 pm

To cover JJ who has gone back to Irish to recover from a foot problem.

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Post by Driver Sun 17 Feb 2013, 11:44 pm

Ah right , so he's a bag holder in training lol.
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Post by Fluxy Sun 17 Feb 2013, 11:48 pm

pretty much, but still too close to England set up if you ask me.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 17 Feb 2013, 11:51 pm

Scary thought Tomkins involved, he's dire

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Post by Driver Sun 17 Feb 2013, 11:52 pm

Might be a training thing for Lancaster , Similer player to Basteraud and having Tomkins to defend against in training might help Manu.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 18 Feb 2013, 12:00 am

They are just training with the seniors for a couple of days. Lancaster has 35 players there. Good to have Saxons players exposed to the senior squad.
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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 12:04 am

Strange how they ignore Jonny May again though?
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 18 Feb 2013, 12:30 am

Pooly you do talk some nonsense. Granted he's not international class at this stage, but he's not dire by any stretch. He actually has a pretty decent offloading game.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 7:32 am

Just an opinion Pete, I think he's dross.

I take it you have him on here?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:22 am

Ryan Lamb signs for Leicester...

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:47 am

I'm sure you know full well I have him in this game Pooly, not that it bears any relevence as its not as if I'm proclaiming him a world beater.


Lamb to Tiggers is an odd one for me.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:55 am

Seems they don't trust Bowden as a 10.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 9:20 am

I didn't know you had him on here, can't recall you ever putting him out when I was playing.

If Matt, Luke, SJE had him I'd still think he was dross. As an England fan I don't want him anywhere near a shirt, even a Saxons one.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 18 Feb 2013, 10:50 am

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_8507789,00.html

Team of round 1 in Super Rugby. Good to see Gill get in there

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Post by Guest Mon 18 Feb 2013, 11:47 am

There were only 2 teams playing though

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

It must be quiet at PR if they're doing team of rounds on 2 games

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 11:52 am

Liam Messam set to switch to 7s with Sonny Bill eyeing up the switch.
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Post by CJB Mon 18 Feb 2013, 12:17 pm

In 2015..

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 18 Feb 2013, 12:20 pm

Accurate enough team from what I saw.

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 12:26 pm

Connacht Sign Craig Clarke from Chiefs.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 2:07 pm

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=37786

Burger not going to be ready for around a month Matt.

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 2:39 pm

Does anyone think it's time for Ireland to sack Kidney?

He's far to persistent with certain players such as D'Arcy , DOC , BOD , ROG and McFadden. The first 4 have had there days in the sun and need to step aside for someone to replace them whilst Mcfadden doesn't seem to look like a international to me.

The fact that he picked 33 year old James Coughan in his 6Ns squad over someone such as Rhys Ruddock shows how stuck in his ways he is.


Also in Dean Richards speach last week he was talking about how he has plans to be challenging for the HC in 4 years with the Falcons.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 18 Feb 2013, 2:44 pm

for me BOD is still class as he proved v Wales.

Stick a quid on that Driver, you could be a millionaire in 4 years time then!

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 3:06 pm

Saying they have 3 world class players lined up for there return to the AP.

Wasn't giving much away like.

Said to win a HC you'v got to have 7 proven internationals and that doesn't include devolping rugby nations like Wales , Scotland and Ireland. That got a few chuckles.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 18 Feb 2013, 3:28 pm

The Irish fans have wanted Kidney gone for the last 2 years. Did well to win the grand slam but performances have just gone down and down since. Hes a good coach manager but his game plan went out the window when the rule changes came in back in 2009

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:04 pm

Oh no...Wasps in talks with Andy Goode as our new no10.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:10 pm

Could be worse, you could have signed Lamb or Cipriani

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:16 pm

What's wrong with Steven Jones backed up by Tommy Bell?

Cips twice the player Goode is as is Lamb. Don't understand why bad rugby players like Goode get less stick than rugby players who are inconsistent.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:21 pm

Isn't Goode the AP's second highest points scorer......despite spending 2 years outside the country?

Decent achievement for a "bad rugby player" Wink


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Post by dammit_chris Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:22 pm

Cips been playing very well recently from what I've seen.

I get the impression Jones might be retiring soon, think he only signed a one year contract. Maybe Goode is there to back up Robinson (not a great set of 10s there!).

Tommy Bell hasn't really kicked on much this year and we haven't got any good young 10's coming through at the club really. We need a top no10 as Robinson is so frustrating as a complete confidence player and it doesn't take much for him to lose that.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:25 pm

I'd rather have Goode than cips. Goode is a good kicker and has been playin well. Solid in defence too. Jones wants to do more coaching apparently.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:27 pm

Goode would be a decent signing, he gets a bad rep from people who don't really get what a 10's job is but is extremely effective.

I'd have Goode at Falcons anytime over Cipriani or Lamb.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:29 pm

Wouldnt fit in with Wasps style of play - look at how many tries Wade and Varndell score, put Goode in that team and it would effect us big time.

10s are there to do more than kick a ball, which from hand and the floor he is very good at but other than that he's awful.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:32 pm

I disagree, he's got a decent all round game.

He's an excellent tactical kicker but has a good range of passing too. Not a line breaker but either is Jones, I think they're quite similar tbh but Jones better. I think he'd slide straight in.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:34 pm

Completely agree pooly he is very similar to jones in style.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:37 pm

He's had a great career, 4 AP's and 2 HC's or something.

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:51 pm

Cips has 1 HC and 1 AP

Goode really well skilled player
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 18 Feb 2013, 8:52 pm

Goode got those playing behind a monstrous Tigers pack, probably the best there has been in the AP, his first instinct is to kick - can't say he hasnt been a good premiership player, but his failings were always shown up whenever he put on an England shirt.

He is good kicker, Stephen Jones has far more to his game and able to mix it up far better. Never liked Goode, but I guess with his body type he could be the ideal replacement for Billy V at the back of the scrum!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 9:04 pm

Driver wrote:Cips has 1 HC and 1 AP

Goode really well skilled player

At 15 though wasn't it?

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 9:11 pm

Was 10 in the AP , Fractured his ankle in the semi vs Bath.

HC was at full back , was named in the RWC2007 training squad.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 18 Feb 2013, 9:11 pm

Wasps pack wasn't exactly bad when cips won those honours, dallaglio, ibanez, betsen, worsley etc. Goode doesnt just kick, he has a good passing game. Not sure what more jones brings as he doesn't have a running game either. Both control well and make good decisions.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 18 Feb 2013, 9:14 pm

Bit off topic, but what about this piece of transfer news. Connacht have signed the Chiefs captain Craig Clarke. Bit of coup for them in my eyes.

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8508063,00.html

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 9:16 pm

Huge signing for them , got a few decent players at the sports ground now.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 18 Feb 2013, 9:17 pm

Most succesful sides have a pretty decent pack.

Totally agree Nick, I think Jones is the better player but theres not a million miles between them. Jones the better passer and Goode the tactical kicker.

Goode would be a handy 10 at most sides.

Players like Lamb/Cips/Cooper look flashy when things are going well but tend to be liabilities when against the wall.

Strange that these mercurial type 10's tend to have a poor defence too.

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 9:35 pm

James Goode set to complete move to Falcons at end of season.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 18 Feb 2013, 10:01 pm

Goode not a good rugby player. He can kick but that is only a bonus in my eyes when it comes to rugby ability.

Has he been a good 10 for Leicester, Worcester and was it Brive? Yes but I'd rather watch paint dry than watch those sides when he was starting 10.

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Post by Driver Mon 18 Feb 2013, 10:06 pm

Random fact;

Newcastle United goal keeper Steve Harper coachs tag rugby at Northern RFC in Newcastle after his sun turned round and told him he wants to play rugby rather than football.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 19 Feb 2013, 9:42 am

So I'm thinking that Lancaster might start Lawes at 4 this week and Tuilagi back in for 36. Anyone see anything else from England?
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Post by Driver Tue 19 Feb 2013, 9:47 am

I think we might see Tuilagi in for 36 but i don't think Lancaster will make any more changes. Flood might drop from the 23 to allow a back 3 player on the bench with 36 covering 10.
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