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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Mar - 13:45

Thorn, Vito, Conrad Smith and Peranara had good games this morning. Thorn still the best NZ 4 on merit I reckon judging by this performance.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Mar - 13:46

Can add Ben Franks to that, he had also had a strong game in the tight and in the loose.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Mar - 14:57

Dewi Morris talking much sense.

How does Dawiduk get 6 weeks but Flood get nothing for his on Goode.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 15 Mar - 17:56

Because Flood was in the England squad!

I don't get how Dawiduk got the ban and the other guy who picked him up got nothing too!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Mar - 18:31

Sergeal Petersen a great player to watch.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Mar - 18:59

Good win for Chiefs, Lions look handy

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 15 Mar - 22:14

Pocock out for 9 months
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,9817_8566644,00.html

Funny how luck can go. Sold both Pocock and Jane to Bath and both have season ending injuries. Things like that difference when league is as tight as it is.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Mar - 22:35

I imagine both will get pretty good ratings till end of the season, Pocock prob a big more.

What was the deal?

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Post by CJB Fri 15 Mar - 22:38

Thought that myself Luka, having terrible luck with injuries

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Mar - 22:40

You'll be ok with Pocock.

4-6 months for world class? That takes you till end of season

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 15 Mar - 23:03

Pocock + Jane
For
SOB + Beale

Had a good season form wise. Likes of Sheridan, Wilko, Parling had good seasons which helps particularly with EQ.
It's such pot luck though, especially with world class SH players off to Japan out of the blue.

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Post by CJB Fri 15 Mar - 23:26

He will miss e Lions your where I was hoping he'd be impressive tbh.

Big deals like that can really go either way depending on form + injuries

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 16 Mar - 8:58

Crusaders are back then!! Good win for them.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 16 Mar - 10:27

This will be a great win for the force if they hold on. haven't seen the game but Force are battling for it!

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 16 Mar - 10:39

Ok I'm going to put a quick warning out to you all!! I'm hitting the cider at 12 so may become quite a bit one eyed in favour of the winners in red come 5pm!

All the best to England up until 5 when the screws come loose on your chariot!! Run
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 15:21

Heaslip poor again, really need him to step up in the 2nd

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Post by Fluxy Sat 16 Mar - 15:39

Italy are looking handy. 2015 the World Cup and six nations could be a big year where they make a statement IMO

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 16 Mar - 17:09

So jealous matt and prop are there.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 17:11

Immense!

Really poor start from Marler

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 16 Mar - 17:14

Croft missing tackles.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 17:14

Ashton?!?! Stupid

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 16 Mar - 17:23

We miss corbs.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 17:25

Marlers getting murdered, need Mako on

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 17:30

How did we get that???

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 16 Mar - 17:42

B. youngs does my head in.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 17:45

I can see his point as your not supposed to contest the scrum before ball is in, doesn't get reffed like that though. You'd expect him to throw it in fast as Marler getting hammered.

Wales the better team so far, Ashton has been bloody awful.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 17:49

Yes SCW, Ashton has no defence!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 18:00

Need Marler off asap

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 18:15

I think that's it. We're really lacking carriers.

Really poor tackle from Brown, Cuthbert schooled him

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 18:21

Cole has struggled throughout, bad times this

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 16 Mar - 18:23

They've won every battle.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 18:23

Wales have been immense

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 18:26

Brown winger experiment has to end, Cuthbert has been great and has tortured him

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 18:32

Danny Care what are you doing???

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 16 Mar - 18:57

Pretty certain that Prop might be a bit happier than Mat right now.

Always thought we'd lost by 5/6 points or so today, but that was an embarrassment, our pack never learnt to deal with Walsh as a ref, especially at the scrum time.

The last three games for me highlighted that we've got some issues with selection especially back three, where we could do with three new players, the Welsh targeted Goode all afternoon with the boot as they knew he would never make ground.

Brown not a wing, and Ashton on the right isnt given any chances and his form is off.

We also need some creativity in midfield and we've really missed Morgan, though Wood has done a great job at the back, Corbs makes a huge difference.

Guess we aren't going to have as many Lions on the tour, but hey, at least we arent French!


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 19:00

Both our wingers showed they arnt Int class today.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 16 Mar - 19:09

Ashton needs the ball and to put into space, same with Tuilagi - we don't create. Whoever we have in 11, 13 and 14 shirts are going to struggle.

Not sure why it is, but if we had May, Wade, Sharples the situation would be the same.

Goode can't carry on at fb now, he offers nothing in attack - got to play Brown or Foden there so we have someone who can get over the gainline. Also got to rethink our midfield.

We were second best by a ridiculous margin today, but we don't seem to have any attacking structure, any ideas about how to use our backs and everything is based around defence. Woeful.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 19:25

Tuilagi fluffed many a chance today, I can recall 2 overlaps

Goode was one of our best players imo

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 16 Mar - 19:34

Mako good again though in loose, has to be ahead of Marler

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 17 Mar - 0:47

Lions time comes at a good time for England in my view.

From our current squad we know that Cole, Wood, Robshaw,B. Youngs, Farrell and Manu are good enough and will tour with the Lions if the the squad is picked on merit. Lancaster can take the other players away and build. All is not lost. I can tell you I would much rather have England's squad of players than Wales' going forward. People forget how young so much of our squad is! Marler, Mako, Launch, Farrell, Manu etc are just kids at 22 and 21.

People are jumping to conclusions about England after one bad performance and that is the wrong thing to do. This 6N has been a success for us in my view. There is a lot to build on and I am optimistic going forward.

PS. Mako superb in the loose today as was Parling. Warburton's quality shines through. Tipuric MoM was rubbish, they were just jizzing over his work for the try set up. Phillips very good and Cuthbert finished well.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar - 0:50

They were 10 x better than us and won every battle. Jones killed marler and youngs hooker was awful.. Missed Morgan. They were better and deserved it.

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 17 Mar - 8:21

I am in a lot of pain right now..dam hangover!! so glad I went. Really didn't think that wales would turn out that performance-like 2011-2012 team! One major difference which I think changed the result was phillips getting rid of the ball quick to roberts who never failed to cross the gainline.

Hard to look past italy for team of the 6n though with their development.
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar - 11:07

Amazing how much they targeted Goode yesterday showed his kicking game up And he offered nowt running it back. To be fair the back 3 do not work together as a unit. Just been speaking to Andy Farrell and his mrs in the bay. He said its hard to look at what went well. He looked shell shocked

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 17 Mar - 11:08

Goode did have a poor game. I'd like a look at Brown at 15

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 17 Mar - 11:23

Positionally Goode is excellent, always in the right place, but the Welsh didn't even try and catch him out of position they just put the ball down his throat as they knew he wasn't a threat going forward.

The Welsh smashed us back so much at the breakdown, was really impressed with them there. Dominated us everywhere, but its a young team and they'll learn from this.

Very difficult to get any front foot ball without a genuine no8, shame Morgan was injured so early on. Wonder who Lancaster will pick between Croft and Wood for the no6 shirt in the future.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 17 Mar - 11:37

Who do people think Gatland will pick for the Lions now (his choice), could see it being:

1. Jenkins
2. Best
3. Jones
4. Wyn Jones
5. Parling
6. Wood
7. Tipuric/Warburton
8. Falateau
9. Phillips
10. Sexton
11. North
12. Roberts
13. Tuilagi
14. Cuthburt
15. Halfpenny

Only 10 Welsh there...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 17 Mar - 11:40

I thought Goode went well but agree our back 3 don't offer much as a unit in attack.

We need somebody like May/Wade to add some spark.

Brown possibly at FB, Foden too out of form unless he finds some.

11. May
14. Wade
15. Brown

We're dog poo in defence anyway, may as well be exciting with it.

I'd love a Cuthbert or North on the wing

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 17 Mar - 11:46

I really hope AWJ doesn't start!

1. Healy
2. Best
3. Jones
4. Ryan
5. Gray
6. SOB
7. Robshaw
8. Faletau

9. Youngs
10. Sexton
11. North
12. JD
13. Tuilagi
14. Cuthbert
15. Kearney

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 17 Mar - 11:47

At this stage the Lions squad should be:

Cian Healy, Gethin Jenkins and Ryan Grant.
Rory Best, Richard Hibbard, Tom Youngs.
Adam Jones, Dan Cole, Mike Ross
Joe Launchbury, Jim Hamilton.
Geoff Parling, Donnacha Ryan, Ian Evans.
Tom Wood, Chris Robshaw, Ryan Jones
Sam Warburton, Justin Tipuric and Sean O'Brien.
Jamie Heaslip, Toby Faletau.
Ben Youngs, Mike Phillips, Greig Laidlaw
Owen Farrell, Jonny Sexton, Dan Biggar
Jamie Roberts, Matt Scott
Manu Tulagi, BOD, Jonathan Davies
George North, Alex Cuthbert, Simon Zebo, Craig Gilroy
Leigh Halfpenny, Rob Kearney, Stuart Hogg.

Think that is probably our best squad. Likes of Ashton played there way out of the squad this tournament.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar - 11:48

Hibbard will be hooker on this championship. Best struggling to go he had an awful tournament

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