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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

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Breaking News: Gloucester smash their way into the top 4 for the first time this season, beating local rivals Bath at The Rec. Worcester move up one place condemning Wasps to the bottom of the table after a bonus point win over their relegation rivals.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Mar 2013, 9:47 am

How much more do they get in the japan leagues to say France? Is it a huge increase?

Telegraph reporting that Croft will start at the weekend as we look to sure up the lineout and play a more expansive game.

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 9:50 am

Our lineout not been great so makes sense.

Croft is a different level to Haskell but I don't think our back row balance is right. Miss Morgan as the pack lacks an out and out carrier.
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:35 am

Goode Ashton Tuilagi Barritt Brown Farrell B Youngs Marler T Youngs Cole Launchbury Parling Croft Robshaw Wood."
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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:43 am

As expected team. I am super excited. Only 2 days away.

Went to cheltenham And lost on every race yesterday so hoping that's all my losses for the week out of the way

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:53 am

Backline bench is interesting - Care, Flood and Twelvetrees - no cover at all for an injury in the backthree.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:09 am

Haven't been as excited/nervous for a game Since the France 2011 semi! Cardiff will be bouncing and I do still have a good feeling we'll stop the slam but maybe not take the title.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:13 am

Prop what do you make of the England team? Any players you'd have picked instead at all?

Be good if the roof is down as looks like we've picked a pack that will be playing at some speed! Losing Ryan Jones could be a big difference, thought he'd been playing very well.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:23 am

If they pick Tipuric at 6 we will have to be at the top of our game at the breakdown, but they might lose a bit of carrying and power in the pack. we need to get on top there.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:29 am

I'd be targetting wing and scrum as our front 5 will be heavier. R.J is a loss but Tipuric will work well I feel. Carrying wise- we have gained a fully fit wyn-jones. I would want to use Roberts better to take Barrit out of your defensive line.

Will be an epic I think.
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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:32 am

Should be epic. Personally think Wales are better without AWJ

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:38 am

I do feel sorry for Coombes losing out but AWJ has the extra big game experience
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:38 am

I expect us to attempt to isolate North and Cuthbert and kick behind them as a tactics. Cole needs a big game but Wales pack desperately lacking carriers. AWJ is not a strong carrier for me so a lot of pressure on Faletau doesn't so much break down bricks walls but exploits gaps and moves defenders around.

Lineout is our clear advantage up front to me. Fits in with a kicking game I can see us using.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:39 am

I also think that Farrell v Biggar a huge battle. Farrell's radar on target and we will always be in the game.

Are England aiming for the championship or the Grand Slam?

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:44 am

Will be a really interesting game, think I prefer the England pack and the subs we have to bring on there too, but the power the Welsh backline brings will be a huge threat

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:52 am

100% agree Steve. Cuthbert shown he is ropey going backwards and big wings like north are susceptible to kicks in behind

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:55 am

Never been a huge fan of Cuthbert, think Brown should be able to marshall him quite well.

North and Halfpenny would be in my Lions backthree though.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 1:09 pm

Halfpenny Cuthbert Davies Roberts North Biggar Phillips; Jenkins(c) Hibbard A Jones AW Jones Evans Warburton Faletau Tipuric"

Pretty happy with that!!
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 14 Mar 2013, 1:27 pm

Think Wales will win....

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 14 Mar 2013, 1:32 pm

All depends if Wales turn up. They have a number if very inconsistent players

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 14 Mar 2013, 1:36 pm

We certainly have stronger bench!

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 1:59 pm

We need to start well as they will be massively up for it

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 14 Mar 2013, 2:22 pm

Will be a good contest with Brown & Cuthbert as both have been caught out positionally in defence.

Ashton v North I can only see going one way the standard of Ashton lately, it's a major worry.

I really hope he scores though as the Welsh seem to hate him(not you Prop)

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 14 Mar 2013, 2:33 pm

Sexton out. Torn ligaments in foot

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 2:44 pm

I can't stand him fella! It's the arrogance and that swallow dive!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 14 Mar 2013, 2:59 pm

the Welsh talk so much about English arrogance, yet fill lions sides with Welsh players and consider the likes if Henson to be God, yet his arrogance is ridiculous

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 3:07 pm

Never in my life have I called Henson God! He played well for a couple of seasons but would take a lot for me to rate him again let alone think he will every play again for Wales!
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Mar 2013, 3:41 pm

Sure it wasn't because he got two tries the last time he was in Cardiff Prop Wink

Arrogance is fine as long as your winning - Shane Williams used to do that annoying dive all the time when he scored a try but never had people calling him arrogant. Will try and find a video of it!

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Mar 2013, 3:42 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVS0ggvpS_8

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Post by Driver Thu 14 Mar 2013, 4:12 pm

Cheeky £3 on Carrick boy to win at 50-1 and he wins, easy this betting malarky!
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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 5:00 pm

I lost every race up their yesterday. Expensive day out

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Mar 2013, 9:43 pm

Anyone seen this before?

http://www.rugbydump.com/2007/02/52/matt-dunnings-drop-goal-for-the-waratahs

Matt Dunning nails a dropgoal, which he was meant to miss!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:06 pm

To be fair Prop you don't really represent the normal Welsh poster on the main boards.

Morg, View & MickeyPhil are terrible, every post/article the write is anti English or a poor attempted wum

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:33 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:To be fair Prop you don't really represent the normal Welsh poster on the main boards.

Aww schucks kiss I rarely venture to the main boards, stick to these games and the virtual rugby pub....I rarely get overly annoyed with people on them unless their name is Driver Run
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Post by Driver Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:42 pm

Damm Welsh
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Mar 2013, 11:07 pm

Driver wrote:Damm Welsh

Any need to abuse Ozzy's team?! Wink
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Post by Guest Fri 15 Mar 2013, 9:35 am

Berrick Barnes looks to have picked up a nasty little wrist injury

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Mar 2013, 10:07 am

Another off

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_8566914,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Mar 2013, 10:17 am

Crazy

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Post by stnick88 Fri 15 Mar 2013, 10:21 am

blow for Johhny.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Mar 2013, 10:21 am

Rumours of Sisi joining JJ & Garvey at Bath, how much money do Bath have??

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Mar 2013, 10:26 am

They have plenty of cash. Sale easily have the financial power to spend all the salary cap, its the selling of the club that is hard. Bath have spent on facilities and can offer good money so are an attractive place to go.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 15 Mar 2013, 10:34 am

Sisi won't be on much money.

Irish will struggle for recruitment for a year or 2 but once we get Hazelwood up and running we should be a much more attractive club as the training facilities should be the best in the league. just need to stay in the prem until then!

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 15 Mar 2013, 10:37 am

Wonder how long till we'll have to rate players in Japan as surely with the amount going out there the league'll only improve!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Mar 2013, 11:12 am

not for a while prop, still the odd start in each side

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 15 Mar 2013, 11:31 am

I think there's only 2/3 foreign players in the teams Prop, be an interesting watch mind.

I read some reports and Du Preez & Fourie are usually motm with a couple of tries.

Not seen much from Kanio, not sure if he's injured

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 15 Mar 2013, 11:32 am

Interesting article by Geech in the Telegraph gives the Welsh and English players ratings.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/sixnations/9932033/Six-Nations-2013-Wales-v-England-how-teams-match-up.html

He rates our best players as Farrell and Cole. Welsh have advantage in the front row, us in the second row and backrows dead even.


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Post by stnick88 Fri 15 Mar 2013, 12:44 pm

Irish sign Andy Fenby.

Not massively exciting but a good try scorer and the sort of hard working player we need. As is Blair Cowan.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 15 Mar 2013, 12:49 pm

Few of my mates are big pals with Andy Fenby. Decent enough player who will do you a job and won't cost to much.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 15 Mar 2013, 1:24 pm

Sort of player they need for next year, solid and consistent. Does a good job an unlikely to get injured too.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 15 Mar 2013, 1:42 pm

Wasps have signed Rory Pitman for next season from Rotheram, strong ball carrier played for Ospreys etc.

Wasps forwards coaches seem to be able to really improve players, so might be worth a punt for someone in the Championship! Apparently there to replace Billy Vunipola's carrying.

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