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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

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Breaking News: Gloucester smash their way into the top 4 for the first time this season, beating local rivals Bath at The Rec. Worcester move up one place condemning Wasps to the bottom of the table after a bonus point win over their relegation rivals.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 01 Mar 2013, 10:27 am

Didn't Beale pop his shoulder last week? Suprised he played. Bagged a try though.

Big win for the blues.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 10:30 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I caught last weeks game, Folau was terrible. I took a punt on him in other game so hope he improves.

For every SBW there's a Lee Smith.

Very true Luke. He looked
Good today defended well and the limited times he had the ball looked a threat. It's a punt and will be interesting to see how it develops.

Blues are a poor side without Berrick Barnes.
He is back next week which should help him out

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 10:39 am

Barnes was really poor last season in Super rugby, they looked better without him.

Looked totally different for Aus, although he still kicks away too much possession which seems to be a recent thing with him.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Mar 2013, 10:41 am

Tahs improve when Volavola comes onto the pitch! Quality young player.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 10:44 am

Volavola looks really exciting.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 01 Mar 2013, 10:47 am

Think Foloa will come through very well, is a classy player - imagine it will take him a little while to adjust because he didnt come straight to league and spent 12-18months in another sport.

Would have thought he'd have been started out on the wing though. Though with his time in Aussie rules you'd expect him to be very good under the high ball and have a good boot on him too.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Mar 2013, 10:53 am

I think he kicked one goal in Oz Rules.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 10:55 am

Being a classy player in league doesn't automativcally mean he'll come good.

As Matt says its a gamble but could pay off.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Mar 2013, 11:01 am

TJ Peranara has been kicking awfully in this game

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Mar 2013, 11:10 am

Looking forward to Bath v Gloucester tonight. Burns is back and get a great back row battle with Qera and Louw involved.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 01 Mar 2013, 11:25 am

I can't see past a Bath win. Glos missing too many players.

Also think Worcester might sneak past Wasps, although hope Wasps win.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Mar 2013, 11:33 am

The way Gloucester have been playing though they have a good chance. Hopefully we see some tries.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 11:48 am

I will be making the journey in to rebel territory for the bath game I think we will struggle to be honest. The lack of depth is starting to show. Qera vs louw worth the entry fee

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Post by stnick88 Fri 01 Mar 2013, 11:48 am

Who have Sale got Steve?

I expect we will lose to Saints away but don't think we will get battered. Having Lawes and Hartley released back to them is annoying!

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 11:53 am

Saints are a funny team they came to us and smashed us about but at there place we did smashed them and they looked poor. Very up and down

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 11:56 am

Prop are you off to the bath glos
Game ?

Its only ten minutes to bath for me so actually easier than a home game

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:00 pm

Nnah I can't make it matt, helping out at a night shelter tonight, I only make it to about 3 games a season! Hoping to go to the Biarritz game though!

Am I reading it right that steve walsh pushed Conrad smith?
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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:02 pm

Cooper has got out of jail for that awful shovelling the ball back with no one there. Could have thrown game away. Awful decision making

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:04 pm

Savea looks great at the moment.
With Jane out could see a Savea Dagg gear back 3 which will be exciting to watch

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:07 pm

Reds been lucky here. Gill been excellent this year

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:11 pm

Be surprised if Gear gets back in, since that one season in 11 he's never really hit the heights.

I think they'll look to blood somebody else, AB's tend to like a footballer on one wing.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:19 pm

Think there is a bit of difference when you are arguably a top-5 league player though Pooly, which Foloa was 2 years ago. The guy is a bit of a freak.

Is it next year where Sam Tomkins can speak with union clubs? Am sure it was written into his contract, one of the most exciting rugby players to watch, could see him being a great signing - Sarries must have enough in their salary cap for him too...

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:20 pm

Mark Gasnier was as good as Folau a League but was gash for Stade Francais. It's not a given. He has potential but it's not a given

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:20 pm

Gear was great last year and started well this year. His try vs Ireland when he ran over earls was brilliant.

Earls looked like he had been hit by a train

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:20 pm

Gill been the best Oz 7 this season.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:23 pm

Gasnier was never going to work. For me the ones who have best chance are dynamic wings.

Not that much difference in the games in those positions.

I think young Tomkins would struggle

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Post by stnick88 Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:24 pm

speaking of league converts, Sa on the bench for Irish tomorrow v Saints.

I can't wait to see him in action, whether he will be any good or not is unknown, but he is certainly a big unit, a bit in the SBW mould. If he could be anywhere near as good as SBW was that would be nice!

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:33 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Gill been the best Oz 7 this season.

Hooper has looked quality also he was excellent again today and carries really well

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:37 pm

Pocock sensational last week too.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 12:40 pm

They have a glut of 7s that's for sure

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 01 Mar 2013, 1:26 pm

"FT: Blues 34 Crusaders 15

Player of the match? Try Rene Ranger who was electrifying in attack and a pillar of strength in defence."

Seems his move to OC proving successful.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 01 Mar 2013, 1:35 pm

Have the Aussies got any decent blindsides or no8s coming through?

I saw that Elsom signed for Toulon, I know he hasnt been at his best for a few years but its like they are playing Championship Manager with rugby players there!

Mat - reckon Tomkins would do well in union, not sure what position but the linebreaks he makes would make him a very exciting player, may need to bulk up a little. Certainly see why SJE keeps him in his squad.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 1:48 pm

Can't agree on Gear Matt, he was best wing in world in '11 but has rarely hit those heights since.

Gill is really growing, he's bulking up and getting more physical.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 1:57 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:"FT: Blues 34 Crusaders 15

Player of the match? Try Rene Ranger who was electrifying in attack and a pillar of strength in defence."

Seems his move to OC proving successful.

Needs a bit of context luke. Crusaders are notoriously slow starters and was a much weakened side. Nobody doubts rangers talent but he has been massively inconsistent throughout his career. Has bags of potential just often makes daft decisions.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 1:59 pm

I think Ranger is looking to move in the summer, T14 is rumoured, possibly Montpellier.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:01 pm

To be fair that was the strongest side Crusaders could put out without McCaw at the moment but yeah they are notoriously slow starters

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:04 pm

Blues backline looked electric last week. Saili looked great at 12, he's really kicking on.

C Piteau could be an AB for years, really exciting.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:10 pm

Saili's brother in Backrow is really playing well also. Pitua is brilliant watched lots
Of Npc and fancied going for him. He is not great under high ball yet but that will come. May end up a winger

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:15 pm

Yea possibly or maybe 13 with AB's a little thin in midfield

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:19 pm

I am sure some great 13 will emerge for them or Kahui will not go to Japan. It usually all falls In to place for the AB's.

They have a load of great 9s but I am still not convinced by cruden so think they lack a backup 10 with DC due to take a sabbatical


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:26 pm

Cruden is the 2nd best 10 about imo, absolute quality.

I'm pretty sure Kahui has already signed a 2/3 year deal

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:29 pm

Callum Clark likely out for season, that's a shame

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_8531582,00.html

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:32 pm

Cruden very average when I watch him. Defence isn't up to much at all.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:35 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Cruden is the 2nd best 10 about imo, absolute quality.

I'm pretty sure Kahui has already signed a 2/3 year deal

Just do not see it. Can't defend and does not manage a game. Goes to pieces whenever it rains also. Great on front foot and has good passing and offloading skills and can make a break.

Would not have him in top 10 in world

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:36 pm

Never seen him have an issue at all, not a beast but certainly no Cipriani/Cooper.

Him and Carter are well ahead of the pack, with Sexton the NH candidate.

I think he's fantastic, when Carter disappears for his sebatical the AB 10 jersey will be in safe hands. They've not had a backup in Crudens league since probably Evans.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:39 pm

For me he is another Carlos spencer but not as good.

He has not really played well for
The ab's when I have watched him. His usually great goal kicking has also faltered at international.

Evans ten times the player cruden is. Evans would still be back up ten if he goes home at end of season

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:40 pm

Cruden misses tackles for fun. Often gets ran through. To be fair he is tiny

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:40 pm

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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Cruden is the 2nd best 10 about imo, absolute quality.

I'm pretty sure Kahui has already signed a 2/3 year deal

Just do not see it. Can't defend and does not manage a game. Goes to pieces whenever it rains also. Great on front foot and has good passing and offloading skills and can make a break.

Would not have him in top 10 in world

That's the oddest comment I've ever seen from you Matthew. I know we like different players but bizarre that one.

I can recall 1 or 2 times I've seen Cruden have a problem in defence, not a defensive issue at all.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:42 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Cruden misses tackles for fun. Often gets ran through. To be fair he is tiny

Any examples? I can think of two.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 01 Mar 2013, 2:45 pm

Might be a little bit of karma for Clark there!

He was playing well, think he was even leading the AP for turnovers, would have liked to have seen him tested at a higher level than AP too.

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