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Breaking News: Gloucester smash their way into the top 4 for the first time this season, beating local rivals Bath at The Rec. Worcester move up one place condemning Wasps to the bottom of the table after a bonus point win over their relegation rivals.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:46 am

anonmattyt wrote:For me he is another Carlos spencer but not as good.

He has not really played well for
The ab's when I have watched him. His usually great goal kicking has also faltered at international.

Evans ten times the player cruden is. Evans would still be back up ten if he goes home at end of season

Spencer?!?! Your trying to wind me up, he's nothing like Spencer.

Evans was not a great AB, Cruden has performed much better on Int stage.

We'll def have to disagree on this one, you must be drinking today, you've came out with some crackers.

Cruden not top 10 FH
Barnes had a good S15 season last year?!?!
Gear was in great form?!?

Laugh

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:46 am

He does have defensive problems.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:47 am

In reference to Barrett missing the most tackles in s15 last year

"Barrett had the most missed tackles, Cruden had the 7th most so Crudens defense is obviously not his strong point either."

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:49 am

Didn't Willam Alberts have the 2nd most missed tackles?

Has he got defensive issues?

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:51 am

When has cruden had a good game for the ab's and really influenced the match ?


When did I say Barnes had a good super 15 last year ?

Gear was excellent last year this was October http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/7781142/Hosea-hits-top-Gear-against-Sprinboks


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:56 am

20mins against Ireland was some of best I've seen.

World Cup?

Next you'll be telling me Goosen is better than Cruden Laugh

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:02 am

I would have goosen over cruden any day of the week. A much more rounded game and can defend.

Goosens cameos at international level were better than anything I have seen from cruden.
Thought cruden was poor when he played at World Cup.

Do you mean the Ireland game where Ireland were hammered ? If
So Ireland were shot on that day but he did play well. Every nz player looked world class that day

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:09 am

Cruden is currently twice the player Goosen is, Goosen will improve though.

I've seen him make one good break against the Argies and I think he didn't kick for goal.

I think we'll agree to disagree, you're crazy!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:11 am

This was end of April last season:

Most Missed tackles:

1. Willem Alberts (Sharks) 26
2. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 25
3. Nick Phipps (Rebels) 24
3. Rob Horne (Waratahs) 24
5. Peter Grant (Stormers) 23
6. JP Pietersen (Sharks) 21
7. Charl Mcleod (Sharks) 20
7. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 20
9. Chris Lowrey (Blues) 19
9. James O'Connor (Rebels) 19
9. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 19
12. Brett Sheehan (Force) 18
12. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes) 18
12. Daniel Halangahu (Waratahs) 18
12. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 18
12. Pierre Spies (Bulls) 18
12. Tim Whitehead (Sharks) 18
18. Andrew Ellis (Crusaders) 16
18. Benson Stanley (Blues) 16
18. Wynand Olivier (Bulls)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:12 am

Cruden must have went to pot in final month......

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Post by stnick88 Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:28 am

As were on the subject of 10's...

Top 5 in world??

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:35 am

1 carter
2 sexton

After that take your pick with

3-5 Farrel Morne Steyn trin duc cooper Barnes wilko Evans goosen would all have a chance

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:39 am

1. Carter
2. Cruden
3. Sexton

Rest are like for like.

Farrell, Flood, Beale, Barrett, Lambie in next batch. Goosen, Barnes behind these.

I wouldn't have Steyn, Cooper or TDuc anywhere near top 5.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:39 am

Stat sites so unreliable this one has completely different. List

http://www.dumptackle-rugbyblog.com/2012/05/super-rugby-stat-leaders-after-14.html?m=1

All of them have Hosea gear most run metres made and high up in clean break stats though !!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:40 am

So Gears form in Super rugby is fine but Cruden best 10 in comp by absolute mile counts for nothing??

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:42 am

Forgot to add Lambie to the list. Before injury boks has goosen 1st choice with Lambie as back up which is real depth.
Morne steyn had a shocking season but is a really good ten and very reliable

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:43 am

I think stat sites are nonsense full stop

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:44 am

Rugby is such a hard game to take stats for.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:46 am

Thought you'd say that Wink

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:09 am

Cruden not close to being the 2nd best 10 in the world.

Probably between Evans and Sexton at the moment.


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Post by CJB Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:20 am

1 Carter
2 Sexton
3 Evans

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:23 am

Think I agree with CJB. On that.

Thank god it's just not me who thinks cruden is not up to much.

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Post by stnick88 Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:41 am

I'd go

1 Lambie
2 Trinh-Duc
3 Heathcote


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:43 am

Just because he doesn't have him in top 3 doesn't mean he doesn't rate him.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:47 am

That's the same with me I think he is ok just a long way away from being a top int player. He has plenty if good points and plenty of bad points.

It's ironing out of those bad points that will see whether he becomes top drawer.

Actually on reflection I will go with nicks top 3!

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:48 am

Trin duc is underrated and has lots
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Post by stnick88 Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:50 am

in all seriousness Carter is in a league of his own

I think there are a lot of fly halves in a league below, Evans and Sexton near the top of that then people like Cruden, Lambie, Steyn, Trinh-Duc, Farrell, Goosen below.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:53 am

Interesting debate though.

Evans gets a high rating generally despite not playing Int for years.

Cruden was by far best FH in S15 last year which is nearest you'll get to Int but gets knocked for not producing it at Int level.

Sexton gets plaudits but has never really produced his club form at Int level.

People rate differently I guess.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:54 am

Carter is in a league of his own but I don't think he was all that good in 2012. It is just at a point where he can do no wrong. Real lack of forms in 10 at the moment though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:54 am

France are really poor at FH, TD is not a good player. Beauxis is awful, Michalak well....

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:57 am

I like Trinh-Duc. With ball in hand he is excellent. Goal kicking is his biggest issue. It's not that he has off days but he just doesn't do it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:00 am

I'm sure he kicks for Montpellier sometimes??

I don't think he's a good 10 at all, massive problem position for the French.

You look at their best 3 teams:

Toulouse - McAlister or Beauxis (laugh out loud)
Toulon - Wilko
Clermont - James

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:13 am

Carter was tremendous last year. He won international player of the year although I thought read should have got it.
Carter had a complete melt down vs England though. First
Time in have seen him make a series of errors

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:15 am

Carter wasn't great last year bar a couple of top games for AB's.

He is the best about though

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Post by CJB Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:46 am

Do agree with Cruden > Goosen tbh but think after my top 3 I'd struggle to call it.

Next two would probably be FTD and Lambie

Then Farrell, Cruden, on form Priestland, on form Steyn etc

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:59 am

Never a red card and ruined the match. Losing harden and having to bring on chi chistoloni who is shocking did not help.

May mills Trinder Robson and Tindall excellent.

Savage Qera and kalamafoni such a good Backrow.

Tindall ran through eastmond quite a few times. Eastmond good ball in hand though just needs to learn how to tackle big runners.

Skirving was excellent as was Wilson.
Louw anonymous which surprised me.
He is a tad off the boil of late.

Stringer makes bath play well and heatcote looks a great player. Outshine burns who is not fit. Mills looks the real deal for glos him and Robson worked really well.

Hearing that wasps may have lost to Worcester so out BP could be massive

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:12 am

Glad with lbp, gonna watch it on weekend
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:24 am

Want to see the red card on tv. At ground even bath fans said never a red

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:35 pm

Bad day at office for Goosen, outshone by the better FH Wink

http://m.news24.com/sport24/Rugby/Super15/HT-Chiefs-10-Cheetahs-3-20130302

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:03 pm

Looks like it was a bad day for cheetahs all round. To be fair cheetahs are poor which makes goosen winning the currie cup almost singlehanded the other year all the more remarkable.

Cruden appears to have lost kicking duties for the chiefs boxing

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:07 pm

Anscombe is pretty brutal from the tee, no shame in that. Goosen could do with some tips I reckon, poor display.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:12 pm

Not seen the game. Did you watch it ? Been out a while so probably a tad rusty. Burns was awful
Last night for glos. his goal kicking was miles off. Been out 7 weeks so understandable

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:18 pm

I seen end of first and beginning of 2nd, working with Aussies so it's S15, wrestling & RL 24/7.

Prob a bit early for Burns, heard he picked up a knock too.

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Post by Driver Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:37 pm

Anyone here use a dongal? My dad is bringing mine with my laptop today amd kt only has 1 gb use per month is that good? Just for forum use.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:43 pm

I use one when away, 1Gb wont go far tbh with general surfing. Might just squeeze a month if easy on it.

3G do one £15 a month a I think it's 5Gb

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Post by Driver Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:55 pm

Only be on about a hour a day tbh.

I'll have a look at that one, I get unlimited Int on phone so thats ideal for quicj posts
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:18 pm

Use your phone as a hot spot driver no need for dongle

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Post by Driver Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:22 pm

How would I do that matt? Will it cost?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:24 pm

Check your settings, turn on hot spot. Won't cost if you have unlimited data.

Some phones can't do it though

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:31 pm

Does not cost driver. iPhones and most android phones easy to set up. Often have to ask your provider to switch on the service

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