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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:48 pm

I'd like to congratulate England and SL on winning this years 6 Nations. Irrespective of your outcome against Wales in Cardiff you will win the championship on points difference at the very least. The most consistent team thus far by a mile. I apppreciate if you don't win the Slam it will be a disappointment, nevertheless winning the championship is still an achievement and of course you still have a good chance of the Slam. This is no disrespect to Italy by the way but we have to face facts so well played thumbsup Ale

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Post by LondonTiger Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:52 pm

Thanks, but a touch premature. Let's see how the table stands in a fortnight.

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Post by Cyril Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:54 pm

The last thing we need is people being arrogant on our behalf Wink

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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:55 pm

Premature is completing the Grand Slam DVD before the last game. Realism and fact suggest that you have won the championship. I'd be waiting as well but its yours thumbsup

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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:55 pm

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:The last thing we need is people being arrogant on our behalf Wink

That's very good Cyril, you're getting thumbsup better

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Post by Big Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:04 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Thanks, but a touch premature. Let's see how the table stands in a fortnight.

I'm more worried about how it stands in 3 weeks time... Wink

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:11 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYmmzI36TJA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Never gets old.

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Post by gregortree Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:15 pm

t1000advancedprototype wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYmmzI36TJA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Never gets old.
It just gets more cheesy picard .

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:16 pm

Cheers. Given England are arrogant, and Wales are lazy - you might as well concede the game now and save us hanging about next the next few weeks.
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Post by gregortree Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:18 pm

BTW, Ruby, thank you for your very generous OP sentiments.
I just hope you're not trying to jinx us now. Pint of DoomBar could be riding on this. Ale

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Post by 100%beefy Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:20 pm

I would like to echo OP and congratulate England on winning the Grand Slam again.

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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:22 pm

Talking to my english mates after the winter league yesterday morning they all seemed to agree with me - I see no problem in that. Where England are at the moment; the championship might be pretty meaningless if they lose to Wales and I can understand that as Wales lost to England when going for a Slam when Howley was Captain and it was just hollow - Therefore, I know it's all to play for but a championship win is a win all the same. thumbsup

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:24 pm

I haven't seen any Welsh/English nastiness since HERSH went.

Everyone has been lovely and respectful. Impressive.

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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:24 pm

100%beefy wrote:I would like to echo OP and congratulate England on winning the Grand Slam again.

Beefy sometimes I'm sure you have a touch of BSE - or maybe just BS thumbsup

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Post by Comfort Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:25 pm

Although there may be a hint of undertone in this, Ido agree with rubes...

Well done England, as long as you dont slip up against Italy, which is actualler harder to say than do now they dont have Parisse and one of their number 10s has had there '1 a year game' where they play like dan carter. Lancaster will have them drilled and a big score could be on the cards if the weather is decent.

Wales at home will be a sturdy test should we manage the win up in Scotland, that itself is going to be a 3-7 points swing either way imo. But, I dont hold too much hope we can stop the grandslam train, and thoroughly deserved it will be should it be acheived.

England have looked balanced (bar the back 3), clinical, determined and they've got into a habit of scoring at the right time, thats all you can ask as a fan. OK

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Post by 100%beefy Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:33 pm

RubyGuby wrote:
100%beefy wrote:I would like to echo OP and congratulate England on winning the Grand Slam again.

Beefy sometimes I'm sure you have a touch of BSE - or maybe just BS thumbsup

Horses don't get BSE you numpty...BS?...well one aims to please, comin gfrom you I take that as a compliment thumbsup

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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:37 pm



thumbsup Ale

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Post by gregortree Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:37 pm

t1000advancedprototype wrote:I haven't seen any Welsh/English nastiness since HERSH went.

Everyone has been lovely and respectful. Impressive.

HERSH naughtiness can still be viewed on BBC site if you are missing it.
But WUM Posters like ViewtoTheGym and GowerPower have been very quiet since England effectively won the Championship after first 3 games.
Even over on the 'bickering' thread it has turned unnecessarily pleasant.
But fair play, posters like Maesteg and Ruby have been decent and generous clap

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Post by rodders Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:37 pm

Congrats to England on winning the 6N! thumbsup

Contrats to Wales for stopping them do the slam! ..... Run
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:40 pm

gregortree wrote:
t1000advancedprototype wrote:I haven't seen any Welsh/English nastiness since HERSH went.

Everyone has been lovely and respectful. Impressive.

HERSH naughtiness can still be viewed on BBC site if you are missing it.
But WUM Posters like ViewtoTheGym and GowerPower have been very quiet since England effectively won the Championship after first 3 games.
Even over on the 'bickering' thread it has turned unnecessarily pleasant.
But fair play, posters like Maesteg and Ruby have been decent and generous clap

Yes I've seen it. HERSH is actually worse on BBC now than he ever was here.

Maesteg and Ruby have always been tidy and any banter so to speak has always been in good humour.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:42 pm

gregortree wrote:
t1000advancedprototype wrote:I haven't seen any Welsh/English nastiness since HERSH went.

Everyone has been lovely and respectful. Impressive.

HERSH naughtiness can still be viewed on BBC site if you are missing it.
But WUM Posters like ViewtoTheGym and GowerPower have been very quiet since England effectively won the Championship after first 3 games.
Even over on the 'bickering' thread it has turned unnecessarily pleasant.
But fair play, posters like Maesteg and Ruby have been decent and generous clap

Thats the same viewtothegym that can be seen on the referenced thread calling England supporters "bitches?" right?
The same Rubyguby who is still making deliberately provacative posts like this article in a desperate attempt to get one back on England by annoying the fans?

Wales arent sponsored by a Bitter anymore, just a man with one eye.

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:48 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
gregortree wrote:
t1000advancedprototype wrote:I haven't seen any Welsh/English nastiness since HERSH went.

Everyone has been lovely and respectful. Impressive.

HERSH naughtiness can still be viewed on BBC site if you are missing it.
But WUM Posters like ViewtoTheGym and GowerPower have been very quiet since England effectively won the Championship after first 3 games.
Even over on the 'bickering' thread it has turned unnecessarily pleasant.
But fair play, posters like Maesteg and Ruby have been decent and generous clap

Thats the same viewtothegym that can be seen on the referenced thread calling England supporters "bitches?" right?
The same Rubyguby who is still making deliberately provacative posts like this article in a desperate attempt to get one back on England by annoying the fans?

Wales arent sponsored by a Bitter anymore, just a man with one eye.

All I'm saying is it's not like it was before.

Anglo Welsh diplomatic ties are improving...

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Post by Geordie Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:53 pm

Although there may be a hint of undertone in this OP

Thats an understatment Comfort.... Wink

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Post by Geordie Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:54 pm

Anglo Welsh diplomatic ties are improving....

I rather inclined to disagree with that comment...

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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:54 pm

Biscuit - Thankfully my knowledgable english fans down at the club are happy to accept another rugby man's congratualtions. We all know that England will be dissapointed if they lose on the 16th but that if it happens is for then. Having enjoyed 6 nations success of late it is always welcome and you should enjoy the spoils of that rather than remaining bitter about something. You're response is very strange - I can banter and argue with the best of them and take it on the chin if I have to, it's called maturity, you should try it thumbsup

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Post by Comfort Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:08 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Although there may be a hint of undertone in this OP

Thats an understatment Comfort.... Wink

angel Very Happy

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Post by thomh Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:09 pm

RubyGuby wrote:Premature is completing the Grand Slam DVD before the last game. Realism and fact suggest that you have won the championship. I'd be waiting as well but its yours thumbsup

If they completed the Grand Slam DVD before the final game then I'd be wondering where the last 20 minutes was.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:12 pm

England winning the grand slam already??

Will Craig Joubert be reffing all your games from now on?

Run

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Post by gregortree Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:21 pm

There was a flurry of fur in BBC chat room last week with a reference to 'English Dogs', but the mods let it pass as it was not a racist comment.

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Post by SecretFly Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:44 pm

Well I won't congratulate you on the GrandSlam or even the Championship yet then...

But congratulations to yourselves and France for one heck of a game. Best game in probably two or three seasons (for me anyway) for the steam of warfare and passion coming from the players and crowd. England were at war..it wasn't a game it was the continuation of that eternal "100 year" war that's doing the business on Telly at the moment.

And it was enough in itelf as a game but to add Fofana's try to it................. just a classic day for what rugby UNION is - a great advertisement

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Post by bluestonevedder Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:55 pm

SecretFly wrote:Well I won't congratulate you on the GrandSlam or even the Championship yet then...

But congratulations to yourselves and France for one heck of a game. Best game in probably two or three seasons (for me anyway) for the steam of warfare and passion coming from the players and crowd. England were at war..it wasn't a game it was the continuation of that eternal "100 year" war that's doing the business on Telly at the moment.

And it was enough in itelf as a game but to add Fofana's try to it................. just a classic day for what rugby UNION is - a great advertisement

Well said OK Ale

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Post by Biltong Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:06 pm

RubyGuby wrote:
Cyril on 606v2 wrote:The last thing we need is people being arrogant on our behalf Wink

That's very good Cyril, you're getting thumbsup better
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Educational as well, eh Ruby?
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Post by Comfort Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:31 pm

Does anyone genuinely think England actually won't win the championship on points difference at least?

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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:36 pm

Comfort wrote:Does anyone genuinely think England actually won't win the championship on points difference at least?

No - its done and dusted and well deserved thumbsup

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Post by 100%beefy Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:40 pm

RubyGuby wrote:
Comfort wrote:Does anyone genuinely think England actually won't win the championship on points difference at least?

No - its done and dusted and well deserved thumbsup

A pyrrhic victory that would be but yes England cannot fail to win Whistle

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Post by A World Cup and 3 Finals Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:42 pm

Ruby, while you're in such a generous mood, what about a pat on the back for winning the 2015 RWC as well?

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Post by RubyGuby Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:43 pm

A World Cup and 3 Finals wrote:Ruby, while you're in such a generous mood, what about a pat on the back for winning the 2015 RWC as well?

Now your just being silly - With a bit of luck I belive you can improve on your joint 8th at the 2011 RWC thumbsup

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Post by Sugarlump Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:44 pm

Winning.... Just like Charlie Sheen? Rolling Eyes

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Post by A World Cup and 3 Finals Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:48 pm

RubyGuby wrote:
A World Cup and 3 Finals wrote:Ruby, while you're in such a generous mood, what about a pat on the back for winning the 2015 RWC as well?

Now your just being silly - With a bit of luck I belive you can improve on your joint 8th at the 2011 RWC thumbsup

Oh gosh just imagine if we too could get to a semi-final just like Wales........... laughing

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Post by 100%beefy Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:55 pm

RubyGuby wrote:
A World Cup and 3 Finals wrote:Ruby, while you're in such a generous mood, what about a pat on the back for winning the 2015 RWC as well?

Now your just being silly - With a bit of luck I belive you can improve on your joint 8th at the 2011 RWC thumbsup

Oh Ruby Ruby Ruby picard

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Post by dragonbreath Mon 25 Feb 2013, 5:00 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:England winning the grand slam already??

Will Craig Joubert be reffing all your games from now on?

Run


And there was I thinking I was the only one who thought Joubert's performance was the worst case of homerism since..... oh yeh Joubert in the 2011 WCF, when I have it on good authority that after persistantly ignoring his assistants with regard to NZ infringements they basically said "you're on your own mate" Joubert is a disgrace and IMO refs games with politics firmly in mind. One of the people watching the game with me actually said that he would even out the penalty count by giving France penalties in unkickable positions, which is exactly what he did.

Not England's fault but he was very influential on the outcome of the game IMO

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Post by A World Cup and 3 Finals Mon 25 Feb 2013, 5:13 pm

dragonbreath wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:England winning the grand slam already??

Will Craig Joubert be reffing all your games from now on?

Run


And there was I thinking I was the only one who thought Joubert's performance was the worst case of homerism since..... oh yeh Joubert in the 2011 WCF, when I have it on good authority that after persistantly ignoring his assistants with regard to NZ infringements they basically said "you're on your own mate" Joubert is a disgrace and IMO refs games with politics firmly in mind. One of the people watching the game with me actually said that he would even out the penalty count by giving France penalties in unkickable positions, which is exactly what he did.

Not England's fault but he was very influential on the outcome of the game IMO
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Post by Sugarlump Mon 25 Feb 2013, 5:16 pm

Ref's inconsistancies always seem to be more marked and obvious when England are playing... Strange we get favoured considering how often folks tell us that noone likes us!

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Post by A World Cup and 3 Finals Mon 25 Feb 2013, 5:17 pm

dragonbreath wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:England winning the grand slam already??

Will Craig Joubert be reffing all your games from now on?

Run


And there was I thinking I was the only one who thought Joubert's performance was the worst case of homerism since..... oh yeh Joubert in the 2011 WCF, when I have it on good authority that after persistantly ignoring his assistants with regard to NZ infringements they basically said "you're on your own mate" Joubert is a disgrace and IMO refs games with politics firmly in mind. One of the people watching the game with me actually said that he would even out the penalty count by giving France penalties in unkickable positions, which is exactly what he did.

Not England's fault but he was very influential on the outcome of the game IMO

Instead of the politics homer angle, maybe he just hates the French................yeah that's it he hates the French, I've got it, yeah, I'm so clever, he hates the French, that's why England won, don't you see....... he hates the French. Doh

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Post by Sugarlump Mon 25 Feb 2013, 5:20 pm

Maybe we got his name wrong and he's actually Jew Bert meaning he probably wouldn't do the Palestinian RFU many favours either!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Mon 25 Feb 2013, 6:27 pm

I don't think for one minute England didn't deserve to win that game. Clearly the better side. But for whatever reason, most likely human error, Joubert made a series of bad judgements throughout that game, and most of those bad judgements favoured England.

Barnes was ropey yesterday as well, but his odd decisions were split 50/50 in my view.

I don't mind Craig Joubert as a ref, in fact he and Nigel Owens in my view are the two top refs on the circuit now that Poite has gone a bit mad.

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Post by dragonbreath Mon 25 Feb 2013, 6:53 pm

A World Cup and 3 Finals wrote:
dragonbreath wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:England winning the grand slam already??

Will Craig Joubert be reffing all your games from now on?

Run


And there was I thinking I was the only one who thought Joubert's performance was the worst case of homerism since..... oh yeh Joubert in the 2011 WCF, when I have it on good authority that after persistantly ignoring his assistants with regard to NZ infringements they basically said "you're on your own mate" Joubert is a disgrace and IMO refs games with politics firmly in mind. One of the people watching the game with me actually said that he would even out the penalty count by giving France penalties in unkickable positions, which is exactly what he did.

Not England's fault but he was very influential on the outcome of the game IMO

Instead of the politics homer angle, maybe he just hates the French................yeah that's it he hates the French, I've got it, yeah, I'm so clever, he hates the French, that's why England won, don't you see....... he hates the French. Doh

Hadn't thought of that. He has gone up in my estimation

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Post by Morgannwg Mon 25 Feb 2013, 6:57 pm

A World Cup and 3 Finals wrote:
dragonbreath wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:England winning the grand slam already??

Will Craig Joubert be reffing all your games from now on?

Run


And there was I thinking I was the only one who thought Joubert's performance was the worst case of homerism since..... oh yeh Joubert in the 2011 WCF, when I have it on good authority that after persistantly ignoring his assistants with regard to NZ infringements they basically said "you're on your own mate" Joubert is a disgrace and IMO refs games with politics firmly in mind. One of the people watching the game with me actually said that he would even out the penalty count by giving France penalties in unkickable positions, which is exactly what he did.

Not England's fault but he was very influential on the outcome of the game IMO

Instead of the politics homer angle, maybe he just hates the French................yeah that's it he hates the French, I've got it, yeah, I'm so clever, he hates the French, that's why England won, don't you see....... he hates the French. Doh

Why post more rubbish? Joubert must be the only ref ever to go from worlds best to worst in the space of a single game.
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Post by gregortree Mon 25 Feb 2013, 7:27 pm

Ruby
thanks for starting a genuine congrats thread, too bad the usual WUMs jumped aboard to spoil it.
WUMMERs - please foxtrot over to the dedicated bickering thread to vent your spleens vomit
This thread is for grown up sportsmen who know how to cheer clap the opposition.

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Mon 25 Feb 2013, 7:35 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:I don't think for one minute England didn't deserve to win that game. Clearly the better side. But for whatever reason, most likely human error, Joubert made a series of bad judgements throughout that game, and most of those bad judgements favoured England.

Barnes was ropey yesterday as well, but his odd decisions were split 50/50 in my view.

I don't mind Craig Joubert as a ref, in fact he and Nigel Owens in my view are the two top refs on the circuit now that Poite has gone for the Kenny Everett look.

Fixed that fES.

I dunno, but I'm usually of the assumption that refs aren't biased, are closer to the action than the cameras are, and penalise a team for offences that materially affect the flow of the game; or for violent conduct.

Sometimes people only see what they want to.


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