Can Ireland beat France?

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With France having lost three games in a row (Italy, Wales, England), they are now on the road to face Ireland.

One side of the argument suggests that France are "due a win" while the other says that they are on the ropes and a new look Irish side can add to their misery.

Can Ireland beat this French team?

The French coach should be sacked for his team selection, they should have won that game but the half backs were poor. Ireland have ran out of steam in every game this 6N. Ireland must get shot of DOC, BOD and ROG and POC who did not play today they need to move on.

Notch wrote:It was Eoin Reddan.

That was just another terrible second half. It's been a problem for Ireland for two years- and when the coaches best idea is to take off the 9 who's controlling the game- Jesus Christ. Kidney has no idea how to address the things that are holding us back.

Two years in a row we're in control at half-time against France and STOPPED PLAYING

Brian O'Driscoll deserved better today.

Totally agree Notch, hair brained pre decided substitutions again. Fitzgerald apart they all weakened us. It has been the same all tournament.

Has it been announced it was BOD's last home game? What an absolute titan of a player, shame for him to go out on this performance.

I have admit, I didn't see a second draw in as many years as the outcome of this

Another crappy game from Ireland, another crappy game in the tournament. Is anyone really enjoying the tournament this year? Promising first weekend, and it just went downhill from there. Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

Well England look good,, happy enough. Not really enjoying the games - well bar the first weekend anyway

profitius wrote:The script is already written. Ireland will start like a runaway train, play the rugby of their lives, bamboozle the French and lead by 30pts at half time. Then the second half comes along and they stop playing. After 50 min both captains agree to call off the match and award France the win because its one of the iron rules of International rugby that Ireland must not beat France.

I was almost right. Its beyond a joke at this stage.

Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

I'm embarrassed that an Irish player was MOTM when they were in the same pitch as Picamoles. RTE are playing this as some sort of triumph. Jesus wept into his Coco Pops

thebluesmancometh wrote: Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

pay attention

What a poor game, anyone else think it should have been a penalty try when debaty charged the Irish winger out? or at the very least a penalty?

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote: Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

pay attention

Oh I have been, was it the silky tries England scored in Dublin, or the superbly dominant first half v France, followed by that well worked Tuilagi try???

Infact England have looked good for about 40 minutes, against Scotland, roughly the same as Ireland did v Wales!!
Lets not put England into another class to the rest of the 6N shall we, they have been just as turgid in general, but they have been the team who's managed the wins.

Nice call profitius. Can even Sin e defend kidney at this point?

Im usually a fan, but the BBC coverage there was a joke. Id really rather have BOD tell us if he is calling it a day than Gabby making the decision for him.

And what the hell was going on with the 'Madigan' injury?! It was clearly Redden, they showed the incident on replay! They were getting the players mixed up all match, amaturish stuff.

And how was that not a pen on Earls.....has the elbow become the shoulder?

How can not one single BBC commentator spot that the guy with the broken ankle is Eoin Reddan?

If they didn't recognise him they have a team sheet in front of them with the players names and numbers and should have noticed that Madigan was standing up and uninjured!

Hope the leg injuury isn't as bad as it looked.

thebluesmancometh wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote: Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

pay attention

Oh I have been, was it the silky tries England scored in Dublin, or the superbly dominant first half v France, followed by that well worked Tuilagi try???

Infact England have looked good for about 40 minutes, against Scotland, roughly the same as Ireland did v Wales!!
Lets not put England into another class to the rest of the 6N shall we, they have been just as turgid in general, but they have been the team who's managed the wins.

england played well v france second half- best play of the tourny by far..

the weather has been shocking for good play yet england havent given away pens in there own half..

check out the pen stats, englands discipline has been on another level. But hey believe what you want. We are happy fans. You dont have to be for us

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote: Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

pay attention

Oh I have been, was it the silky tries England scored in Dublin, or the superbly dominant first half v France, followed by that well worked Tuilagi try???

Infact England have looked good for about 40 minutes, against Scotland, roughly the same as Ireland did v Wales!!
Lets not put England into another class to the rest of the 6N shall we, they have been just as turgid in general, but they have been the team who's managed the wins.

england played well v france second half- best play of the tourny by far..

the weather has been shocking for good play yet england havent given away pens in there own half..

check out the pen stats, englands discipline has been on another level. But hey believe what you want. We are happy fans. You dont have to be for us

Mate youve hit the nail on the head, Englands discipline has been better and has won them games! And to compare the French falling to peices to what Ireland served up in the first 45 mins v Wales?? You must be clueless!!

glamorganalun wrote:The French coach should be sacked for his team selection, they should have won that game but the half backs were poor. Ireland have ran out of steam in every game this 6N. Ireland must get shot of DOC, BOD and ROG and POC who did not play today they need to move on.

Not as bad as Kidney who took Murray out who had a stormer, bringing in poor Reddan...

I just don't understand... when you have a 9-10 axis that is working perfectly in tandem, why do you break it up?

These players are conditioned to last 80 in test match rugby. They have specific training programmes to get them to their peak for test windows. So if a guy is playing well and controlling the game. Why on earth do you take him off?

I'd still say that the intensity of the England France game was a step above anything else this tourney so far. Its not been a classic tourney thats for sure

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I'm embarrassed that an Irish player was MOTM when they were in the same pitch as Picamoles. RTE are playing this as some sort of triumph. Jesus wept into his Coco Pops

Yeah, Picamoles is exactly the type of player Ireland have been missing.

thebluesmancometh wrote: Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

They have been head and shoulders above the rest. They may not be the most flamboyant team in the competition but they actually play like a team. The rest have looked amateur in comparison.

thebluesmancometh wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote: Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

pay attention

Oh I have been, was it the silky tries England scored in Dublin, or the superbly dominant first half v France, followed by that well worked Tuilagi try???

Infact England have looked good for about 40 minutes, against Scotland, roughly the same as Ireland did v Wales!!
Lets not put England into another class to the rest of the 6N shall we, they have been just as turgid in general, but they have been the team who's managed the wins.

england played well v france second half- best play of the tourny by far..

the weather has been shocking for good play yet england havent given away pens in there own half..

check out the pen stats, englands discipline has been on another level. But hey believe what you want. We are happy fans. You dont have to be for us

Mate youve hit the nail on the head, Englands discipline has been better and has won them games! And to compare the French falling to peices to what Ireland served up in the first 45 mins v Wales?? You must be clueless!!

england got better and better throughout that game..and played by far the best rugby this tourny to completely take them apart and make the world blame it on the french falling apart.

Thats what us english get every time we play well. We are used to it. But dont try and brainwash me mate

thebluesmancometh wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote: Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

pay attention

Oh I have been, was it the silky tries England scored in Dublin, or the superbly dominant first half v France, followed by that well worked Tuilagi try???

Infact England have looked good for about 40 minutes, against Scotland, roughly the same as Ireland did v Wales!!
Lets not put England into another class to the rest of the 6N shall we, they have been just as turgid in general, but they have been the team who's managed the wins.

bluesman wrecks another thread with his wumming. Well done

Any chance the Anglo-Welsh wumming could go to their own thread? Honestly couldn't care less about your childish squabbles

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I'm embarrassed that an Irish player was MOTM when they were in the same pitch as Picamoles. RTE are playing this as some sort of triumph. Jesus wept into his Coco Pops

Picamoles got the Motm from french tv somehow. Only french player to be consistantly good since the start of the 6N. Otherwise another game to forgot from a french POV.

Just a quick note to english and welsh fans. Lets try to not get banned over the next week hey!

Oh look the three amigo's are here, Cyzil, Rory and mister... I bow to your supreme knowledge guys that England are the all conquering champagne rugby nation that will win the GS...

Just had a great idea, once you beat Italy tomorrow maybe you should print some T shi.... Oh.

Blues shall we take it to the wum thread pal..

Its gonna be high intensity over th enext week and you knows it!

thebluesmancometh wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote: Apart from England, nobody has actually played well.

When did that happen?? I mustve missed it!

pay attention

Oh I have been, was it the silky tries England scored in Dublin, or the superbly dominant first half v France, followed by that well worked Tuilagi try???

Infact England have looked good for about 40 minutes, against Scotland, roughly the same as Ireland did v Wales!!
Lets not put England into another class to the rest of the 6N shall we, they have been just as turgid in general, but they have been the team who's managed the wins.

england played well v france second half- best play of the tourny by far..

the weather has been shocking for good play yet england havent given away pens in there own half..

check out the pen stats, englands discipline has been on another level. But hey believe what you want. We are happy fans. You dont have to be for us

Mate youve hit the nail on the head, Englands discipline has been better and has won them games! And to compare the French falling to peices to what Ireland served up in the first 45 mins v Wales?? You must be clueless!!

doesn't matter which way you want to look at it, the English are leading the comp and are unbeaten.

By the way, hold back a tad on the sarcasm mate, it's dripping on your keyboard.

whocares wrote:

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I'm embarrassed that an Irish player was MOTM when they were in the same pitch as Picamoles. RTE are playing this as some sort of triumph. Jesus wept into his Coco Pops

Picamoles got the Motm from french tv somehow. Only french player to be consistantly good since the start of the 6N. Otherwise another game to forgot from a french POV.

Dusatoir has slowly been going up through the gears in the championship as well Whocares. He started off pretty invisible at the beginning but was quite the workhorse today.

I don't do the wum threads, whats the point, I just call it as I see it.

Noone has played anything of any real note except a 50 minute period from Ireland, and the only really enjoyable game from my POV has been Italy France.

Wheres the wum?

thebluesmancometh wrote:Oh look the three amigo's are here, Cyzil, Rory and mister... I bow to your supreme knowledge guys that England are the all conquering champagne rugby nation that will win the GS...

Just had a great idea, once you beat Italy tomorrow maybe you should print some T shi.... Oh.

Bitter by any chance? Don't forget, I'm not english.

The RTE pundits went on like it was a good performce.
We really do set a low standard for ourselves

well then dont get so het up when no one else agrees with you blues. Chill your self. We are just saying how we saw it an all.

thebluesmancometh wrote:I don't do the wum threads, whats the point, I just call it as I see it.

Noone has played anything of any real note except a 50 minute period from Ireland, and the only really enjoyable game from my POV has been Italy France.

Wheres the wum?

You wum on every thread you post. You're View and Gower's quieter brother.

Whats being English got to do with anything Rory? And what am I bitter about?

Guys let's not escalate the situation please.

Thought Huget had a good game for the most part, Picamoles just never gives up needs to find a way of firing the rest up. I don't know what to say about Ireland, bossed it 1st half and forgot what had worked in the 2nd and were lucky to survive. Should have been penalty to Ireland for the barge into touch which may have given them a final chance to close the game out but it went to TMO so can't blame Walsh. Not a great game but we've been unlucky with conditions since the 1st weekend.

What irish players would make the Lions at this point?

aitchw wrote:Thought Huget had a good game for the most part, Picamoles just never gives up needs to find a way of firing the rest up. I don't know what to say about Ireland, bossed it 1st half and forgot what had worked in the 2nd and were lucky to survive. Should have been penalty to Ireland for the barge into touch which may have given them a final chance to close the game out but it went to TMO so can't blame Walsh. Not a great game but we've been unlucky with conditions since the 1st weekend.

I'm starting to think Dublin should be banned from games, it seems to rain on every occasion of late. And to compare Irelands home games with what they are capable of, and offered V Wales... Maybe Ireland should rent the MS?

Lets hope as few as possible.

Blues thats not a terrible idea. We do have a pretty incredible record at MS.

Could that have something to do with weather restrictions? The Aviva looks extremely open!

Blues the weather was good that weekend. we saw good rugby from all teams..

since then the weather has realy hurt the quality. as it naturally does.

Its simple. Ireland wernt on some other level..

AlastairW wrote:

whocares wrote:

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I'm embarrassed that an Irish player was MOTM when they were in the same pitch as Picamoles. RTE are playing this as some sort of triumph. Jesus wept into his Coco Pops

Picamoles got the Motm from french tv somehow. Only french player to be consistantly good since the start of the 6N. Otherwise another game to forgot from a french POV.

Dusatoir has slowly been going up through the gears in the championship as well Whocares. He started off pretty invisible at the beginning but was quite the workhorse today.

Dusautoir been his usual tackling machine. He got a couple of turnover against england but didnt cope that well against the quality of the irish flankers. Huget is another good find in this tournament (not fantastic but I like his attitude) and am happy to see Domingo back to his real level.

mystiroakey wrote:Blues the weather was good that weekend. we saw good rugby from all teams..

since then the weather has realy hurt the quality. as it naturally does.

Its simple. Ireland wernt on some other level..

Weather wasn't good in Italy from what I remember, and that for me was the most enjoyable game of the tourny so far!

so Blues can you not see the link with your comparisons.

You said englands only good period was v scotland, you said ireland matched that v you and that italy v france was the best game!!

err. all from that weekend..

btw wales played well second half as well.

Point being- when its half decent weather we can all look good.

mister

We're not disagreeing! Of course I know it was all the same weekend (mildest weather weekend) whats your point?

thebluesmancometh wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:Blues the weather was good that weekend. we saw good rugby from all teams..

since then the weather has realy hurt the quality. as it naturally does.

Its simple. Ireland wernt on some other level..

Weather wasn't good in Italy from what I remember, and that for me was the most enjoyable game of the tourny so far!

The quality of the second half of Italy v France was v poor. However surely all 3 matches on the first weekend were entertaining affairs? After that it has been a bit of a slog.