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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:10 am

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Breaking News: One point now separates the bottom three teams after London Wasps home win against Saracens.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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2 Homepage - Page 3 7Harlequins19130 6 496 459 +37 54 48 3 5 60
3 Homepage - Page 3 2Gloucester19130 6 492 443 +49 56 45 3 4 59
4 Homepage - Page 3 8Newcastle Falcons19111 7 474 441 +33 50 41 1 7 54
5 Homepage - Page 3 12Sale Sharks19 11 0 8 484 455 +29 52 46 2 8 54
6 Homepage - Page 3 9Northampton Saints19101 8 476 459 +17 50 47 2 7 51
7 Homepage - Page 3 5London Irish1910 0 9 479 465 +14 51 46 2 8 50
8 Homepage - Page 3 50London Welsh17 8 3 8 446 433 +13 47 42 0 8 46
9 Homepage - Page 3 1Bath Rugby1990 10 449 462 -13 44 49 0 8 44
10 Homepage - Page 3 11Saracens1941 14 393 479 -86 34 52 0 725
11 Homepage - Page 3 57Worcester Warriors1931 15 411 465 -54 36 51 1 9 24
12 Homepage - Page 3 6London Wasps 1930 16 378 481 -103 33 54 0 12 24






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by stnick88 Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:53 am

Fraser is excellent.

Shame I signed him for Irish on this game and not Worcester. Only cost 2 mil!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:54 am

Shame I released him as Saracens manager ages ago, I may have been lucky and got him when I split the squads with Welsh.
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Post by stnick88 Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:09 am

anyone want Ali Williams?

Not after the world for him.

Also am after an English winger.

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Post by stnick88 Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:11 am

also, whats the rule with players who have been released by other clubs on here, how are they bidded for??

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:12 am

Championship/National league bidding page mate.
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:25 am

Saull would walk falcons team for me. Quality player just lost his way at sarries this seasob

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:29 am

He wouldn't be ahead of Welch

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Post by Fluxy Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:43 am

stnick88 wrote:also, whats the rule with players who have been released by other clubs on here, how are they bidded for??

Is that only EQ players, or all released players?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:48 am

Only EQ. Under current rules, foreign releases have gone back in to the foreign market. This is changing in the summer.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:48 am

The following players are available ( can do now or end of season). Am looking for a loosehad and hooker who are NH players, and a scrum half from the SH. (* denotes EQ, not necessarily looking for EQ back.)

Brett Sturgess*
Chris Whitehead*
Ofisa Treviranus
Sione Kalamafoni
Semisi Taulava*
Tomas O'Leary
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:48 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21846171

This would be a hell of a signing!!

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Post by CJB Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:17 pm

Anyone got a lock or scrummie I can loan

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:53 am

Another knee injury, Harden out for season.

http://m.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/story.html?aid=18469051

Could hit you hard in playoffs with lack of depth.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:06 am

Nacewa retiring at end of season
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:23 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Another knee injury, Harden out for season.

http://m.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/story.html?aid=18469051

Could hit you hard in playoffs with lack of depth.

It will our lack of depth at th costs matches. Harden did this a few weeks ago. We are a better side with him. When he was out earlier in the season our
Form went a bit.

Nacewa and contepomi retiring.

Kahui back this week

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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:47 am

who have Glos got this weekend?

Wasps form seem to of slipped of late can see them missing the playoffs.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:50 am

If Saints signed North that suddenly turns their backline into something very good.

See that Lancaster and Rowntree are complaining about Walsh's reffing at the scrum and breakdown.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21853814

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:56 am

I have issues with hits scrum reffing. Both sides giving penalties away but he had come into the game thinking Wales had a stronger scrum so gave them benefit of doubt all game.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:04 am

Wales pushed without the ball in and we took too long to adapt to this. Jones really tore into Marler, will be a good lesson for him.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:11 am

Way he spoke to Youngs was poor.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:11 am

Leinster fans gutted about Nacewa. One of the best ever imports.

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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:15 am

He has been quality for them, very consistent performer.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:29 am

Jones seemed to bind badly on Marler too and drag him to the ground - there were some odd calls, twice Hibbard popped up first and Wales got the penalty. Didn't understand that at all.

The scrum is such a pain though as the amount of resets in each game is getting worse and worse.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:55 am

Actually quite looking forward to the England summer tour now, when you look through the clubs there are quite a lot of good youngsters who should get their chances.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/picturegalleries/9942293/England-players-to-look-out-for-in-Argentina-in-pictures.html#?frame=2514537

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:59 am

dammit_chris wrote:Jones seemed to bind badly on Marler too and drag him to the ground - there were some odd calls, twice Hibbard popped up first and Wales got the penalty. Didn't understand that at all.

The scrum is such a pain though as the amount of resets in each game is getting worse and worse.

Where did you read that Chris? It almost sound like you know what your talking about Wink

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:09 am

Copied and pasted from a Will Greenwood article. I added the 'Didn't understand that at all' bit by myself though.




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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:11 am

love the way they call Yarde the next Paul Sackey!

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:39 am

Will Irish have any players next season?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21857283

Joseph joins Bath.

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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:02 am

Everyone knew that was happening Chris.

So far only Joseph, Corbisiero, Gibson and Moates have left, not the end of the world.

JJ is quality on hard grounds not sure Bath is the right club for him, think he would of suited Quins better.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:04 am

Is an odd one with Bath if they are thinking of playing Eastmond in the centres - couldnt imagine that working all that well. Must be frustrating for guys like Ben Williams and Ben Mosses though as both seem pretty good and on the verge of breaking through into the first team.


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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:09 am

Do you Irish lads rate yarde much ?

Not seen anything from him whenever I have seen him which is fairly often. Just seems run of the mill decent ap player. Looked really dynamic at under 20s

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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:05 am

Yeh Eastmond / JJ wouldnt work for me. could be proved wrong.

massively rate Yarde. I know your not a stats fan matt but he is in the top 5/10 for things like clean breaks, defenders beaten, metres made etc. I've been to every Irish home game this season bar one and he has been our best back.




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Post by Driver Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:12 am

Falcons about for a few deals
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:00 am

Think both Jj and eastmond are a bit light in defence. You can go through them so can't see that working.

Maybe Jj will be back 3 for them

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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:03 am

JJ played fullback in a couple of games for Irish in the Amlin and was pretty good. Handy winger also. Such a good turn of pace he can burn past his 1st man easily. fullback could suit him.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:04 am

Never seen much wrong with JJ's defence.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:39 am

Martin Johnson backs AWJ for Lions captain. I'm not even sure he'd get on the plane in my squad. So much being read into one game. Welsh up here are still going on about it! It's their world cup final every year!

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:50 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:Never seen much wrong with JJ's defence.

What I mean is Steve is that they are both light hitters and and people can get their arms free to offload easily so the 2 would not work together. Jj a decent enough defender. Eastmond learning he misses
Quite a few and gets steamed through as he goes a bit high for his size but that's probably due to league. Tindall went through him a few times recently. He is a strong little lad though and ripped the ball off one of our big lumps in the tackle

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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:54 am

Shane Williams also tipped AWJ for captain.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:56 am

I am hoping JJ gets a fresh start at Bath. There is little doubt that 10. Ford 11. Biggs 12. Eastmond 13. JJ 14. Banahan 15. Abendonan is exciting but it relies and awful lost on Banahan getting over the gainline from the wing. I am no fan of his as a 12. Bath pack not renowned for its carrying either to be fair.

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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:09 pm

Exciting in attacks but quite dodgy in defence. Eastmond, Ford, Biggs, Banahan and Bendy all not the best defenders.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:11 pm

Is Lee Dickson meant to be signing for them from Saints to replace Claasens? If so first all English backline in the AP?

They could do with a second row like Hamilton though, maybe a prop like Henry Thomas too.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:13 pm

I was thinking Thomas would suit Bath. Would be gutted if he left Sale mind!

He is such a prospect!

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Post by stnick88 Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:18 pm

Whens Thomas out of contract?

Classens is a big blow to Bath, he has been the heartbeat of their side for years. Dickson is good though and could do a similar job.


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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:27 pm

Awj would not get in my lions squad as a baggage handler. That's why Johnson is an ex England coach.

Hard to pick a captain as they need to be first name on team sheet.


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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:29 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:I am hoping JJ gets a fresh start at Bath. There is little doubt that 10. Ford 11. Biggs 12. Eastmond 13. JJ 14. Banahan 15. Abendonan is exciting but it relies and awful lost on Banahan getting over the gainline from the wing. I am no fan of his as a 12. Bath pack not renowned for its carrying either to be fair.

Banahan been more 13 this year with eastmond 12. They work better that way than the other way around strangely as I would not have picked it that way.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:33 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8579665,00.html

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:50 am

Horwill is fit! Yahoo

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:31 am

Telegraph vote for the Lions...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/picturegalleries/9945597/British-and-Irish-Lions-XV-as-picked-by-Telegraph-readers.html#?frame=2516024

Well at least we will have a couple of players on the bench! Maybe.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:35 am

its unbelievable how that one game has changed everyones opinion on the Lions. before it the team was england dominated now we dont feature at all and wales dominates it.

people say that england players played themselves out of contention v wales. what about ireland being poor all tournament and winning one game?! no-one really mentions that.


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