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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:10 am

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Breaking News: One point now separates the bottom three teams after London Wasps home win against Saracens.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:41 pm

Will start mine now.

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Post by stnick88 Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:50 pm

Hartley had a good first 40 and was dreadful second 40!

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:07 pm

stnick88 wrote:Hartley had a good first 40 and was dreadful second 40!

100% agree nick he had a melt down 2nd half.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:01 am

League table update. Tight for the 4th play off spot, and in the relegation battle. Is going to be some finale to the season I reckon.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:35 am

Heard Folua played well, anybody see the game?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:36 am

Ferris to Japan is a done deal

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:27 am

Saints were taken apart yesterday by Tigers, they are starting to look very good at the right time of the season - are definitely Saints bogey team.

Hawkins had a very good game for Tigers, was interesting to see how much their lineout changed and how much more attacking ball they could generate.

Getting more and more impressed with Parling in each game, when him and Croft play like they did in the lineout you've got no chance as they just close you down.

Again you look at the Tigers squad and compare it to Saints and you have to wonder how they get all their players in the salary cap too!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:34 am

You think?

Saints have an equally strong squad, they just don't play good rugby.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:59 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Ferris to Japan is a done deal


Not seen this anywhere on any site. Can you post a link ? Personally cannot see it happening.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:01 am

Just found it on Irish independent. Nothing confirmed

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:02 am

Source in the know apparently, going to be announced soon.

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Post by prop_lyd Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:12 am

Matt: we won 61-5! How'd Drybrook do?
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Post by stnick88 Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:19 am

En route to the mad stad for hopefully a big Irish win! Nice sunny day perfect for yarde, tagi, armitage and hala'ufia

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:40 am

Can see why Irish/Sale are struggling, defences are shocking

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Post by stnick88 Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:43 am

So many errors.

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Post by Fluxy Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:46 am

I can see Ferris going, most of the fans have accepted he won't play much with injuries and with the emergence of Henderson it of offset.

Irish Sale is quite a dire quality game.

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Post by stnick88 Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:17 am

Edwards called it there. Our 9,10,12 combo getting killed defensively. Need JJ on and move Guy to 12. Complacency from Irish costing them. Few wins and
We think we are too good for sale.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:02 am

Can see why Peel doesn't Int rugby any more

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Post by stnick88 Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:07 am

F me that was bad.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:08 am

Awful Nick, defence was really poor.

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Post by stnick88 Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:14 am

All round was poor. Treviranus aside we just didn't look up for it. 4 tries at home to Sale is just not good enough. Complacency.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:23 am

Drybrook and newent won Prop.

Told you ilford
Were awful prop awful awful team

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:47 am

delighted with sale score. Sounds a cracker will which tomorrow on record.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:49 am

do you play for drybrook? My mate is maidstone captain!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:52 am

It was anything but a cracker.

I know Chris mocks super rugby defences but that was worse than a lot of the stuff I've seen.

Can see why you're both struggling.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:58 am

I'm not sure we even have a defensive coach. Points we've conceded this season is ridiculous.



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Post by Fluxy Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:02 pm

My house mate plays for Aylesford and was being asked to play Maidstone. Was meant to play them a week ago in a friendly, but they cancelled due to a cup game.

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Post by stnick88 Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:57 pm

A lot of it is organisation and coaching as both sides have some great individuals

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:25 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:do you play for drybrook? My mate is maidstone captain!

They are local side Steve anyone who does not make it for cinderford goes there and any ambitious player
Leaves there for cinderford. Cracking club and they have had every game away so brilliant for them. Great coach and set up and young side .


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Post by CJB Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:44 pm

Looking to shift Toeava for a winger

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:47 pm

My dad said sale and Irish conspired to a draw to stay up lol.
I said if they did that BP draw would happen.

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Like both sides and glad they will stay up.
Ap needs a northern side and it
Is so important.

Quality of rugby up north is dreadful but there
are pockets of decent teams and they have produced so many players over the years.

To not have a northern team is a backwards step for
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Be great to have 2 northern teams next year.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:47 pm

CJB wrote:Looking to shift Toeava for a winger

Is he in Japan or still
In super. 15 ?

Tidy player but not noticed him
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Post by Fluxy Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:50 pm

He's still in japan

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:56 pm

Play anywhere in backline.

Japan is killing my squad next year lol!

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Post by CJB Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:57 pm

Fan of his mainly thanks to versatility but don't remember last time I played him and hard to envisage scenario where I will

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:29 pm

Just seen the may try from
Friday on tv. What a team try. In stadium did lot
See how well It was created.


Any person who questions may defence will rexamine after this game. Tackled everything and was perfect.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:13 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:It was anything but a cracker.

I know Chris mocks super rugby defences but that was worse than a lot of the stuff I've seen.

Can see why you're both struggling.

Garvey missed Gaskell in a awful way. Poor game and Garvey etc better than that game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:31 am

anonmattyt wrote:Just seen the may try from
Friday on tv. What a team try. In stadium did lot
See how well It was created.


Any person who questions may defence will rexamine after this game. Tackled everything and was perfect.

So 1 game against Sam Smith and that proves that May is a rock in defence.....

I'm sorry Matt but May hasn't got a great defence, I'm a big fan but it's a weakness he needs to work on.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:35 am

Great article
On
Baxter in the times and on how he will improve England's attack.

Such a clever coach

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:36 am

Anyone see
The Saracens game. ? Apparently Ashton had a blinder

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:46 am

Team of week

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8611584,00.html

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:53 am

Thought you said they were written by people who didn't seem to watch rugby...oh wait four of your players in there Wink


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:57 am

"5 Samuel Whitelock (Crusaders): Conquered the Stormers' own Mount Everest aka Andries Bekker by pinching four line-out balls for the Crusaders. Like a fine red wine, Whitelock just keeps getting better with age - and he's only 24!"

After the debate about the top 5 going....

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:58 am

Luke they are a complete pile of dross most weeks. An interesting read and no less.
Quite a few weird ones in there as always

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:59 am

Whitelock is best second row going.
Top top player

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:00 am

[quote="LukeLovesLuka"]Thought you said they were written by people who didn't seem to watch rugby...oh wait four of your players in there Wink


I actually have 5 in the team so it must be accurate Whistle

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:09 am

Haha nice.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:47 am

So fickle Matt lol Wink

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:38 am

At last Tyler Bleyendaal is mentioned in the team of the week! Am definitely keeping him as he looks like he could be a long term replacement for Carter - just needs more games!

Foloa is really impressing me, enjoy watching him - knew he'd make an excellent union player and wouldn't be overly surprised to see him in the Aussie match day 23 for the Lions.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:42 am

Bleyendaal has game management skills. Only him and carter seem to possess that of NZ 10s so he may get a chance later down the line. More pragmatic than cruden and Barrett. Tidy defender on the few times I have seen him

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