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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:10 pm

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Breaking News: One point now separates the bottom three teams after London Wasps home win against Saracens.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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8 Homepage - Page 16 50London Welsh17 8 3 8 446 433 +13 47 42 0 8 46
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12 Homepage - Page 16 6London Wasps 1930 16 378 481 -103 33 54 0 12 24






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:44 pm

Have not seen the tahs game but heard folau made quite a few tasty brakes. Rock solid under the high ball which comes from Aussie rules and league

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:48 pm

Bleyendaal was really good at the JWC about 2/3 seasons ago, made things look very easy and I think is currently the leading scorer from a single tournament, but that could have also been helped by Savea scoring 2-3 tries a game in that one too!

Foloa is just a class athlete, only question mark on him is how long he will stay in union for, lot of people saying they could move him to 13 too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:28 pm

Bleyendaal a long behind the likes of Cruden, Barrett currently.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:32 pm

Yes he is a long way behind them but he tackles and would run a tactical game better.

Don't think he has the attacking intent needed in nz rugby.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:33 pm

No he's very one paced, certainly no threat to Carter or Cruden/Barrett for that matter.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:43 pm

Not so sure if carter was injured that they would go Barrett and cruden. Could not have both of them as neither Is a controller of a game and its good to have a different option.

Same with England in that having flood and Farrell does not work. Farrell and burns on bench works much better as you can change the way you play

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:47 pm

It's always good to have a revolving door on your bench!

Burns is so uncontrolled for me, he attacks fantastically but is just Si erratic. Crazy miss passes and chip kicks when it's just not on. I'm really unconvinced with him.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:49 pm

Mat here's confirmation of Donald leaving Bath.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21995211

Bleyendaal is a long way behind, but can't really expect anything else when he's Carter's understudy, game time will always be limited in comparison. Hopefully for me he will continue to develop.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:51 pm

You need someone to change the game and burns can do that.
Likewise nz if carter is injured and they have cruden and want to close the game out with someone who can play it pragmatic and tackle there is no point in bringing on Barrett

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:52 pm

Saw that today Chris. I will release him end of season. Apparently he was great on the weekend

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:04 pm

I really like Burns, offers us something different - guess he is really still learning the ropes, but as long as his kicking from the tee stays like it is then he's easily a better option the Flood.

Think Ford going to Bath could kickstart his career from next season, really think Saints missed a trick not signing him as his game management and kicking skills (not from the tee mind!) are exactly what they are missing at the moment.

Bath could have a really good team next year, think they need a few signings in their pack and they should kick on - though maybe need another big ball carrier in their backline as Ford, Eastmond et al aren't exactly the biggest.

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Post by Fluxy Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:05 pm

If anyone is interested in these lads;

Huia Edmonds (Australia)
LH - Ben Daley (Australia)
LK - Dan Tuohy (Ireland)
SH - Mike Blair (Scotland)
OC/IC - Casey Laulala (New Zealand)

Make an offer, debating to release them

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:08 pm

Mat - Donald did have a good game, was having a chat with some friends who went to the game and they were saying how frustrating a signing he has been, as if his heads in the right place he can win a game on his own but the other times he doesn't look like he should be starting for a Championship team!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:51 pm

I'm about for some deals today if anyone is around.
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Post by Fluxy Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:52 pm

I am as well

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:07 pm

We've got Bath & Exeter available on other game. Bath especially are a quality top 4 squad.

https://www.606v2.com/t38683-fantasy-aviva-season-1-homepage

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Post by stnick88 Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:41 am

gutted about Garvey!

Bath building a great squad.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:53 pm

Has anyone got Josh Bassett in this game?

Wasps have just signed him, another good signing for us I think!


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Post by Guest Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:57 pm

Could be a top signing. He had a medical at glos and we did not complete after it. We have done this quite a few times . Guy plays week in week out in championship and England under. 20s so does not seem to have any fitness issues.

Looks really accomplished every time I see him!

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Post by Fluxy Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:02 pm

At Leicester I think

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:09 pm

Yeh I got him about a year ago. High hopes.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:12 pm

Can he play full back? Hard to see him getting ahead of Wade and Varndell

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Post by stnick88 Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:17 pm

Doubt he will be a regular for a while. good for depth though. Varndell wont be rapid for ever, once his pace goes, he wont be nearly as effective.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:41 pm

He was pretty good in the Championship XV versus the Maori earlier this year. Looks a good finisher. He wont get ahead of Varndell or Wade, but we've got very little depth in the squad outwide and will good to have a winger instead of shifting Daly out there.

Want to see whether a player we have called Tamiau kicks on, he was touted as being very good and similar to Flutey in style, but got injured badly last year and I'm not sure he's getting any game time this year.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:49 pm

Saints players for sale, ideally looking for a lineout forward, a centre who can play 12/13 and is available during the 6Nations.

Have some of my academy available too.

PR Logovi'i Mulipola (Samoa) (3) on loan to Wasps
LK Patricio Albacete (Argentina)
OS Julian Salvi (Australia)
FH/FB Danny Cipriani (E)
CE Ashley Beck (Wales)
WG Sitiveni Siviatu (NZ)
FL Ben Nutley (E) - 07/04/1992
HK/BR Nick Walker (E)

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:40 pm

Looking forward to seeing this lad play http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3824_8615573,00.html

Coming back from big ban but meant to be a bit of a freak. Up
Against hooper think he may struggle though

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:25 pm

Looks like North to Saints is a done deal.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:36 pm

Mat, how has Mata'u been doing? Looks like he has been getting more starts recently but in all honesty I got him for my team as he can put in huge hits!

The North signing would be huge for Saints, gives them a very good backthree and will be great playing alongside Foden.

Alex King going there will also make a big difference, always though England should have gone for him instead of Catt.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:13 pm

I just hope North has signed a release clause.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:54 pm

Matu'u is second choice at the Cains behind Coles when I've seen him

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:28 pm

Been mainly bench playing because coles hurt his thumb.

Saw dan cole described as England's john Hayes in that he can do
Everything bar scrummage.

That's harsh for me I
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:03 am

Where did you see that comment Mat? I can't agree with that comment in any way.
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Post by Guest Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:14 am

Pete me neither it was on guardian or telegraph I will dig it out. Biggest load of nonsense i have seen in a while.

Cole Improves year on year and for me is first name on England team sheet.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:15 am

John Hayes was lumbering compared to cole who is a real athlete

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:02 am

Cole is quality.

I wouldn't say he was the finished article in the scrum but he's still great there. He just needs the LH to get parity and he generally gets on top.

Odd comparing him to Hayes.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:17 am

Hayes? Lol.

See Leinster looking to replace Nacewa with Drew Mitchell.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:23 am

Great replacement drew Mitchell. Unlucky with injuries but a real talent.

Hayes was such an average player the comparison is preposterous. I suppose it gets us commenting so the journo has done his job

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:28 am

Marler lost us Wales game.....??? We got more of a beating than the scrum.

"Marler, although excellent around the pitch, does not have a very strong scrumage technique, whereas Vunipola is powerful in the scrum and round the field but has fitness issues and cannot last a whole game at international level, which leaves Lancaster with a selection dilemma."

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/features/columnists/jeff-probyn/8408/jeff-probyn-selection-of-marler-cost-england-the-game/

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:36 am

All papers saying North is now a done deal - amazing signing for Saints, must be increasingly worrying for the regions though that they can't keep hold of their best players.

Yeah I've seen Mata'u as mainly as a bench player, but they seem to use him really well as an impact player. Never sure whether to stick with him or look for another player as just like finding new features on RugbyDump of him smacking people around.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:37 am

Probyn is my pet hate as a journo. As a player he was a liability apart from scrummaging and is now bitter the game has gone professional.

He blames scrum as source of everything

At this lions dinner we are going to on may 3rd he is one of the tables and I pity them.

We have Alan tait on ours. He usually comes across as a miserable jock but we will see,

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:09 am

Give him some stick for taking us down!

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Post by stnick88 Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:42 am

lads am after some centres and wingers.

Most players available for negotiation, looking to offload Ali Williams, Julien Malzieu, Yannick Jauzion, Shane Jennings, Luke Charteris, Werner Kruger.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:24 pm

Rumours of a Mayhew/Lawson swap deal Nick/Pete, heard anything?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:50 pm

Finally sitting down to reds vs highlanders. Genia and cooper started brilliantly.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:55 pm

Reds excellent in first 20. Build phases how I like to set up Quins on here. 10 stands flat and players more off the half backs.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:57 pm

You gonna play 9 and 10 deep for kicks? Wink

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:02 pm

I like Cooper attacking from 15. It works well for the Reds and he creates things from there. Generally pretty dire under high balls though!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:03 pm

I like it too, but commentator makes a good point of if you get turnover your playmaker is miles from the ball.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:39 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Rumours of a Mayhew/Lawson swap deal Nick/Pete, heard anything?

Not heard anything but wouldn't surprise me. Lawson has been ok but uninspiring, and I am not convinced he is what Brian Smith is looking for in the pack. He's quite small for a hooker and I think Smith wants to build as physical pack as he can. Mayhew in the limited game time he had for us looks to fit that bill better. I'd be pretty happy with that swap if I am honest.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:45 pm

Yea I'd be ok with it tbh, Mayhew is 3rd choice behind Thompson & Vickers(neither can throw), He's just never been fancied up here. Might work out well for both parties

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