Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
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Outside Centre for the Lions
Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
Six nations is done. We are a year on since I last held one of these polls and the long term aim was to compare what we selected a year out, a month out and the final squad.
You can pick one player only as your first choice.
I think I have grabbed most of the names in the hat, though my apologies if anyone you consider worthy has been forgotten, if you ask nicely then I am sure one of our excellent moderators might take the time to be kind enough to offer their much valued assistance.
The players included either showed in the Six Nations squads or have been regularly talked of as prospects on the various threads on here.
THERE ARE TWO THREADS ON CENTRES ONE IS FOR INSIDE CENTRE THE OTHER IS FOR OUTSIDE CENTRE.
Looseheads - https://www.606v2.com/t42452-loosehead-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Hookers - https://www.606v2.com/t42471-hooker-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Tightheads - https://www.606v2.com/t42486-tighthead-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Lock No. 4 - https://www.606v2.com/t42501-number-4-lock-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1956467
Lock no. 5 - https://www.606v2.com/t42502-number-5-lock-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Blindside Flanker - https://www.606v2.com/t42514-blindside-flanker-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Openside Flanker - https://www.606v2.com/t42515-ospenside-flanker-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1956975
Number 8 - https://www.606v2.com/t42518-number-eight-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1958144
Scrumhalf - https://www.606v2.com/t42531-scrumhalf-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Flyhalf - https://www.606v2.com/t42539-flyhalf-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1958609
Inside Centre - https://www.606v2.com/t42557-inside-centre-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1959728
You can pick one player only as your first choice.
I think I have grabbed most of the names in the hat, though my apologies if anyone you consider worthy has been forgotten, if you ask nicely then I am sure one of our excellent moderators might take the time to be kind enough to offer their much valued assistance.
The players included either showed in the Six Nations squads or have been regularly talked of as prospects on the various threads on here.
THERE ARE TWO THREADS ON CENTRES ONE IS FOR INSIDE CENTRE THE OTHER IS FOR OUTSIDE CENTRE.
Looseheads - https://www.606v2.com/t42452-loosehead-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Hookers - https://www.606v2.com/t42471-hooker-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Tightheads - https://www.606v2.com/t42486-tighthead-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Lock No. 4 - https://www.606v2.com/t42501-number-4-lock-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1956467
Lock no. 5 - https://www.606v2.com/t42502-number-5-lock-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Blindside Flanker - https://www.606v2.com/t42514-blindside-flanker-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Openside Flanker - https://www.606v2.com/t42515-ospenside-flanker-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1956975
Number 8 - https://www.606v2.com/t42518-number-eight-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1958144
Scrumhalf - https://www.606v2.com/t42531-scrumhalf-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia
Flyhalf - https://www.606v2.com/t42539-flyhalf-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1958609
Inside Centre - https://www.606v2.com/t42557-inside-centre-choices-for-the-lions-tour-to-australia#1959728
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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I can't see him in the centre at all. He's a winger played at 13 because the English and Tiger lack options. Put him out wide and you'll see the best of him.
I think JD2 or BOD are the best options to take. I want BOD in the mix for his experience, and charisma. He can really lift a team. Knows how to get the guys focused when chips are a bit down.
JD2 is just an excellent centre, especially at 13, power, pace, neat foot work, good kicking brain. He makes tries for those around him, scores a few too.
I think JD2 or BOD are the best options to take. I want BOD in the mix for his experience, and charisma. He can really lift a team. Knows how to get the guys focused when chips are a bit down.
JD2 is just an excellent centre, especially at 13, power, pace, neat foot work, good kicking brain. He makes tries for those around him, scores a few too.
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Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Tuilagi would be better suited at 12 IMHO, obviously plenty of time during the games to intechange but 12 on his back would be far more conducive to his attributes.
And for all the naysayers I would still like to see him play alongside Roberts, it's the kind of partnership that seems so unlikely but so often work!
And for all the naysayers I would still like to see him play alongside Roberts, it's the kind of partnership that seems so unlikely but so often work!
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thebluesmancometh wrote:Tuilagi would be better suited at 12 IMHO, obviously plenty of time during the games to intechange but 12 on his back would be far more conducive to his attributes.
And for all the naysayers I would still like to see him play alongside Roberts, it's the kind of partnership that seems so unlikely but so often work!
You'll have to explain how the two centres famed for their lack of ability to pass the ball, neither can kick a ball whatsoever, would make the best Centre partnership for the Lions.
It is definitely a theory that needs expanding upon.
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maestegmafia wrote:thebluesmancometh wrote:Tuilagi would be better suited at 12 IMHO, obviously plenty of time during the games to intechange but 12 on his back would be far more conducive to his attributes.
And for all the naysayers I would still like to see him play alongside Roberts, it's the kind of partnership that seems so unlikely but so often work!
You'll have to explain how the two centres famed for their lack of ability to pass the ball, neither can kick a ball whatsoever, would make the best Centre partnership for the Lions.
It is definitely a theory that needs expanding upon.
If they are playing outside of Phillips and Farrell it don't matter that they cannot pass or kick as they will see no ball either :-)
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SYNOPSIS OF THE POLL SO FAR...
Forwards
Cian Healy 41% 31
Rory Best 49% 37
Adam Jones 62% 36
Richie Gray 16% 22
Geoff Parling 14% 23
Chris Robshaw 27% 16
Justin Tipuric 44% 22
John Beattie 37% 22 (Toby Faletau 1 vote short)
Backs
Ben Youngs 54% 27
Jonny Sexton 44% 18
Jamie Roberts is tied with Billy Twelvetrees 31% 4
Manu Tuilagi 50% 7 (Brian O'Driscoll is 1 vote short)
Forwards
Cian Healy 41% 31
Rory Best 49% 37
Adam Jones 62% 36
Richie Gray 16% 22
Geoff Parling 14% 23
Chris Robshaw 27% 16
Justin Tipuric 44% 22
John Beattie 37% 22 (Toby Faletau 1 vote short)
Backs
Ben Youngs 54% 27
Jonny Sexton 44% 18
Jamie Roberts is tied with Billy Twelvetrees 31% 4
Manu Tuilagi 50% 7 (Brian O'Driscoll is 1 vote short)
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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maestegmafia wrote:thebluesmancometh wrote:Tuilagi would be better suited at 12 IMHO, obviously plenty of time during the games to intechange but 12 on his back would be far more conducive to his attributes.
And for all the naysayers I would still like to see him play alongside Roberts, it's the kind of partnership that seems so unlikely but so often work!
You'll have to explain how the two centres famed for their lack of ability to pass the ball, neither can kick a ball whatsoever, would make the best Centre partnership for the Lions.
It is definitely a theory that needs expanding upon.
How often do we see Gatlands teams open up? How often did JD2 have to make the big flashy passes this year? Both players can pass off both hands decently enough, and Gatland doesn't play wide risky games anyway, he likes to play a low risk kicking game, chase strongly and carry in the tighter channells, infact He likes to only throw the FB and blindside wing into the line when there is a scoring opportunity!!!
How often have you seen JD2 need to use his boot this season? Not often at all, Phillips Biggar and 1/2p will be plenty as kicking options!!!
Also lets not pretend JD2 is this big flair playing BOD style genius, he is limited ball in hand, but has worked hard to become capable, he has spent 12 months in the wilderness because Wales don't want to use him that much, he doesn't offer carrying in the tighter chanells, he doesn't see ball often, and when he does both 1/2p and Cuthbert/North have joined the open side for numbers, so his job has become easier.
Imagine us pounding Oz's narrow side for a fe phases until we've tied up a few wider players, then Phillip goes to Sexton who has Roberts running a dummy crashe line, outside is Tuilagi, North, Cuthbert and Kearney... Ouch!!
I can't see how anybody isn't willing to at least take a look at the 2 monsters partnering up!!
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thebluesmancometh wrote:maestegmafia wrote:thebluesmancometh wrote:Tuilagi would be better suited at 12 IMHO, obviously plenty of time during the games to intechange but 12 on his back would be far more conducive to his attributes.
And for all the naysayers I would still like to see him play alongside Roberts, it's the kind of partnership that seems so unlikely but so often work!
You'll have to explain how the two centres famed for their lack of ability to pass the ball, neither can kick a ball whatsoever, would make the best Centre partnership for the Lions.
It is definitely a theory that needs expanding upon.
How often do we see Gatlands teams open up? How often did JD2 have to make the big flashy passes this year? Both players can pass off both hands decently enough, and Gatland doesn't play wide risky games anyway, he likes to play a low risk kicking game, chase strongly and carry in the tighter channells, infact He likes to only throw the FB and blindside wing into the line when there is a scoring opportunity!!!
How often have you seen JD2 need to use his boot this season? Not often at all, Phillips Biggar and 1/2p will be plenty as kicking options!!!
Also lets not pretend JD2 is this big flair playing BOD style genius, he is limited ball in hand, but has worked hard to become capable, he has spent 12 months in the wilderness because Wales don't want to use him that much, he doesn't offer carrying in the tighter chanells, he doesn't see ball often, and when he does both 1/2p and Cuthbert/North have joined the open side for numbers, so his job has become easier.
Imagine us pounding Oz's narrow side for a fe phases until we've tied up a few wider players, then Phillip goes to Sexton who has Roberts running a dummy crashe line, outside is Tuilagi, North, Cuthbert and Kearney... Ouch!!
I can't see how anybody isn't willing to at least take a look at the 2 monsters partnering up!!
Cheers Blues, you have some very good points there.. I am sure many will consider those as options.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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People say about how often do we see garlands team open up this year. How about answering this how many times did he coach last year after the six nations once and that was new Zealand. You can't go crash ball centres because like was found out it don't work you need skill and power
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welshboii15 wrote:People say about how often do we see garlands team open up this year. How about answering this how many times did he coach last year after the six nations once and that was new Zealand. You can't go crash ball centres because like was found out it don't work you need skill and power
Like who for instance?
BOD used to have skill and power, but is way past his best. Twelvetrees has skill but cant get into the England team, the best three centres in the 6N are Davies, Roberts and Tuilagi and I suspect that Gatland will perm any two from these three for the Lions test team.
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Yes but JD2 has skill power pace kicking ability so it would be JD2 and tuilagi or JD2 and Roberts.
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Agree there Boii, I'd have a JD + Tuilagi/Roberts
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I understand there needs to be power but against Australia there needs to be more skill
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welshboii15 wrote:Yes but JD2 has skill power pace kicking ability so it would be JD2 and tuilagi or JD2 and Roberts.
Totally agree JD is IMHO a better 12 than 13 as he the all the pace, superb balance off either foot, great delicate left peg, good hands and his try ratio to opportunities given is second to none. But Gatland likes to go with a big 12 who has two or maybe three defenders marking him thus allowing room for the faster more skilful 13. I would rather it be the other was around with the skilful pacy centre at 12 and opening space for the big crash ball centre on the outside
I would go
12 Davies
13 Tuilagi or Roberts
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JD/Tuilagi would be a great combo
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majesticimperialman wrote:Tualaghi
Some Italian guy Madge
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Must admit I am surprised to se Tuilagi and BOD neck a neck...! I thought there would be more votes for JD2 but he is now leading the inside centre poll.
JD2 with BOd outside him would be very useful.
JD2 with BOd outside him would be very useful.
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JD2 with Tuilagi outside him could be devastating, not sold on BOD as a starting option personally although I'd like him to tour.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:JD2 with Tuilagi outside him could be devastating, not sold on BOD as a starting option personally although I'd like him to tour.
As much as I normally agree with Maes (and not you Sgt_Pooly), on this occasion I would go along with you
12 JD
13 Tualagi or Roberts
Is my call at this point
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flyhalffactory wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote:JD2 with Tuilagi outside him could be devastating, not sold on BOD as a starting option personally although I'd like him to tour.
As much as I normally agree with Maes (and not you Sgt_Pooly), on this occasion I would go along with you
12 JD
13 Tualagi or Roberts
Is my call at this point
FHF
I noticed a few times you would switch Roberts and Davies around... Whats your thinking there?
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Have we a history of not agreeing Fly???
I just can't see past that midfield. BOD should tour but not sure he should start. JD & Tuilagi are currently the best two midfielders in the NH(throw in Fofana too), they would really trouble Aus.
I just can't see past that midfield. BOD should tour but not sure he should start. JD & Tuilagi are currently the best two midfielders in the NH(throw in Fofana too), they would really trouble Aus.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Have we a history of not agreeing Fly???
I just can't see past that midfield. BOD should tour but not sure he should start. JD & Tuilagi are currently the best two midfielders in the NH(throw in Fofana too), they would really trouble Aus.
Why is Tuilagi one of the two best?
Try count?
Assists?
Minimal tackles missed?
Fewer knock on's?
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Have we a history of not agreeing Fly???
I just can't see past that midfield. BOD should tour but not sure he should start. JD & Tuilagi are currently the best two midfielders in the NH(throw in Fofana too), they would really trouble Aus.
I just do not think that BOD will go on the Lions tour to be honest with you. I think he will retire from all international rugby before the Lions tour starts. Just my opinion you understand.
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Maes, you're not a fan Tuilagi I get that. I'm not looking to convert you, it'a your opinion.
My opinion is he's one of the best 13's in world rugby at the tender age of 21 and he's only going to get better.
Lets just agree to disagree.
My opinion is he's one of the best 13's in world rugby at the tender age of 21 and he's only going to get better.
Lets just agree to disagree.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Maes, you're not a fan Tuilagi I get that. I'm not looking to convert you, it'a your opinion.
My opinion is he's one of the best 13's in world rugby at the tender age of 21 and he's only going to get better.
Lets just agree to disagree.
No I am a huge fan of his, I just don't think he is anywhere near as good a centre as you keep saying. What I keep asking when you keep saying how fantastic you think he is, why do you think he is so good...?
So please tell us, what it is that makes him a better outside centre than everyone else?
I have given you plenty of reasons why I do not agree with you.
Lets here your reasoning...!
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I've no intention of getting into a debate/argument with you about Tuilagi. I'm wasting my time and yours as you already have an opinion of him which isn't going to change.
He's a freakish talent and he seems to be doing quite well in the poll.
He's a freakish talent and he seems to be doing quite well in the poll.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2301596/Northampton-8-Leicester-36-match-report-Manu-Tuilagi-runs-riot.html
Latest game played by Tuilagi. Is there a more in form centre?
Latest game played by Tuilagi. Is there a more in form centre?
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:I've no intention of getting into a debate/argument with you about Tuilagi. I'm wasting my time and yours as you already have an opinion of him which isn't going to change.
He's a freakish talent and he seems to be doing quite well in the poll.
I am not trying to incite an argument, I have asked you why, what it is that you rate about him.
You are a very avid supporter of the man, I think it would benefit the thread to hear why you are such a big fan. What is it that sets Tuilagi apart?
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I think tuilagi is a good but limited player. He may well develop further but I want someone who has that bit more - the subtle skills of BOD or the silky running of Guscott - you get the idea.
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Good game by Jon Davies at outside centre on Saturday.
Highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi64MN-hlmA
Highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi64MN-hlmA
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Davies is a class act but Rabo form is really hard to judge due to the standard of the league.
Tuilagi is the form 13 in the NH right now, he's a shoe in for the Lions. The debate is who to play alongside him really.
Tuilagi is the form 13 in the NH right now, he's a shoe in for the Lions. The debate is who to play alongside him really.
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maestegmafia wrote:Good game by Jon Davies at outside centre on Saturday.
Highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi64MN-hlmA
Hmmmm.... Crossing / obstruction for the first try and a clear forward pass for the second.
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The poll is open until a week before the squad is announced, there is still a decent amount of rugby to be played and peoples thoughts and views may change. As it stands currently these are the Squad choices by the mob that contributes to 606V2.
I dont know the make up or how many he really will pick so i am just running with top three options...
Loosehead Prop 89 votes so far
Cian Healy 39
Ryan Grant 20
Gethin Jenkins 15
Hooker 92 votes so far
Rory Best 45
Richard Hibbard 21
Tom Youngs 11
Tighthead 74 votes so far
Adam Jones 47
Dan Cole 19
Euan Murray 4
Locks 144 votes so far over the two polls so averaging 72 Votes
Geoff Parling 29
Richie Gray 29
AWJ 21
Ian Evans 20
Blindeside Flankers 78 votes so far
Chris Robshaw 19
Kelly Brown 18
Sean O'Brien 17
Openside Flankers 74 votes so far
Justin Tipuric 33
Sam Warburton 14
Chris Robshaw 13 (leading the Blindside option)
Ross Rennie 8 (Next best after Robshaw)
Number Eight 73 votes so far
Toby Faletau 28
John Beattie 26
Ben Morgan 10
Scrumhalf 73 votes so far
Ben Youngs 38
Mike Phillips 20
Greig Laidlaw 10
Flyhalf 59 votes so far
Jonny Sexton 30
Owen Farrell 13
Dan Biggar 6
Inside Centre 53 votes so far
Billy Twelvetrees 11
Jonathan Davies 13 (Also 3rd in the outside centre Poll)
Matt Scott 11
Jamie Roberts & Luke Marshall 7 (If we were to consider JD2 at outside)
Outside Centre
Brian O'Driscoll 22
Manu Tuilagi 22
Jonathan Davies 9
Right Winger 44 Votes so far
Sean Maitland 22
Alex Cuthbert 11
Christian Wade 7
Left Winger 45 votes so far
George North 21
Tim Visser 8
Simon Zebo 5
Fullback 59 votes so far
Stuart Hogg 25
Leigh Halfpenny 22
Rob Keaney 7
I dont know the make up or how many he really will pick so i am just running with top three options...
Loosehead Prop 89 votes so far
Cian Healy 39
Ryan Grant 20
Gethin Jenkins 15
Hooker 92 votes so far
Rory Best 45
Richard Hibbard 21
Tom Youngs 11
Tighthead 74 votes so far
Adam Jones 47
Dan Cole 19
Euan Murray 4
Locks 144 votes so far over the two polls so averaging 72 Votes
Geoff Parling 29
Richie Gray 29
AWJ 21
Ian Evans 20
Blindeside Flankers 78 votes so far
Chris Robshaw 19
Kelly Brown 18
Sean O'Brien 17
Openside Flankers 74 votes so far
Justin Tipuric 33
Sam Warburton 14
Chris Robshaw 13 (leading the Blindside option)
Ross Rennie 8 (Next best after Robshaw)
Number Eight 73 votes so far
Toby Faletau 28
John Beattie 26
Ben Morgan 10
Scrumhalf 73 votes so far
Ben Youngs 38
Mike Phillips 20
Greig Laidlaw 10
Flyhalf 59 votes so far
Jonny Sexton 30
Owen Farrell 13
Dan Biggar 6
Inside Centre 53 votes so far
Billy Twelvetrees 11
Jonathan Davies 13 (Also 3rd in the outside centre Poll)
Matt Scott 11
Jamie Roberts & Luke Marshall 7 (If we were to consider JD2 at outside)
Outside Centre
Brian O'Driscoll 22
Manu Tuilagi 22
Jonathan Davies 9
Right Winger 44 Votes so far
Sean Maitland 22
Alex Cuthbert 11
Christian Wade 7
Left Winger 45 votes so far
George North 21
Tim Visser 8
Simon Zebo 5
Fullback 59 votes so far
Stuart Hogg 25
Leigh Halfpenny 22
Rob Keaney 7
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I like Manu as a person and player, but he is at best operating at 50% effectiveness until he learns to consistently draw and pass when the crash ball option isn't there.
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Tuilagi and BOD, Davies on the bench
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Another weekend done and dusted. The squad to be announced after the next...!
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Tuilagi's most memerable moment for me was clocking Aston. Tuilagi is a limited player Roberts won the battle against Wales with ease, he was not in the game against The Ospreys match I was at and he was hardly involved against Toulon. When he up against big players he offers very little, does he lose interest?
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Glam I agree, but I sincerely consider its because he is naturally gifted to play wing not centre.
I would like to see him on tour but out wide and concentrating on his pace and strength in space rather than limiting our outside backs involvement.
I would like to see him on tour but out wide and concentrating on his pace and strength in space rather than limiting our outside backs involvement.
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That's a stupid comment.glamorganalun wrote:Tuilagi's most memerable moment for me was clocking Aston.
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Re: Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
Tuilagi doesn't play wing.
People keep stating incorrectly that Roberts kept Tuilagi quiet in the Wales game negating the fact Manu played 13 and Roberts 12.
When your pack gets dominated you don't see much attacking ball at 13, it's doesn't take too much brains to see why Tuilagi was quiet against Wales.
He's had quiet games and outstanding games since then, he imo is the NH's best 13.
People keep stating incorrectly that Roberts kept Tuilagi quiet in the Wales game negating the fact Manu played 13 and Roberts 12.
When your pack gets dominated you don't see much attacking ball at 13, it's doesn't take too much brains to see why Tuilagi was quiet against Wales.
He's had quiet games and outstanding games since then, he imo is the NH's best 13.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
Join date : 2011-04-27
Re: Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
Pretty sure he has played wing, and very convinced he would be a lot better at it than he is at centre. Tuilagi doesn't have the skills to be a top centre.Sgt_Pooly wrote:Tuilagi doesn't play wing.
People keep stating incorrectly that Roberts kept Tuilagi quiet in the Wales game negating the fact Manu played 13 and Roberts 12.
When your pack gets dominated you don't see much attacking ball at 13, it's doesn't take too much brains to see why Tuilagi was quiet against Wales.
He's had quiet games and outstanding games since then, he imo is the NH's best 13.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
He's already a top centre
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
Sgt_Pooly wrote:He's already a top centre
In England maybe. But there are three other countries involved and they each have players with more skill passing, kicking, running and creating than Tuilagi does.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
No he's a top centre on the world stage, you just don't register this.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
Sgt_Pooly wrote:No he's a top centre on the world stage, you just don't register this.
Register?
I don't agree with you. Not in the slightest.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: Outside Centre choices for the Lions tour to Australia
That's fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion
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