Scarlets V Glasgow

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Ciao Juve, I've been away and the boards seem quiet as regards the Warriors so let's get started. Very much a must win for the Scarlet Women. Although four points may not even put them fourth. Whereas even an LBP will keep the Warriors in the top three. As for team selection, assuming everyone is fit ( where's UIG when you need him?) I'D start with
1.Grant
2. WeePee
3.Angela, although Muzza made a huge difference when he came on against the former Irish giants at Scotstoun.
4. Big Al
5. Swinson who seems to be betting better all the time
6. Bluto if we want to attack them from the off Harley if we want to take the sting out of them and then bring on Bluto
7. Barclay wears the jersey till he leaves just so we can appreciate him
8. Wilson
9. Niko/Henry same logic as 6
10. got to start with Rhurarb after Munster 51
11. DTH
12. Hornee furra Linee
13. Dunbar
14. NoMaits
15 Lion in Waiting
Murchie, Schlong and the Messiah can all feel hard done by OR could all play. If we come close to replicating the second 40 against Munster 51 then we will pocket 5 pts. If we reproduce the first 40 it could be a long, frustrating night.

On the whole Clancy has been fine, it's just occasionally he makes a bizarre calls.

Glasgow have been awful, the execution has been terrible and they've just invited pressure on themselves.

Fair play Scarlets, played a far smarter game.

thebluesmancometh wrote:I'd consider Hook the 10/centre cover and Williams back 3 though...

I guess Scott Williams is considered the better defender in midfield, and considering the importance of defence to Wales at the moment they don't want a weak defender at 13

I'm not a Glasgow fan. The ref has been shocking. That is not to say Glasgow have been any better.

This is a performance Glasgow fans will wish to forget

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Griff wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:How Liam Williams hasn't managed a Welsh 6N chance I just don't know, if he played for any other team in the NH he'd be near first choice by now!!!

Hard to drop 1/2p I guess!

Ye I know but to not make a bench??? I thought he'd get a bench spot and on the pitch after THAT NZ performance!!

Yeah you're right. A bench spot should have happened more often. I guess Hook has had that honour, but I haven't watched any French rugby so can't comment on his suitability really. And he's not playing 15 in France as far as I know.

Griff wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Griff wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:How Liam Williams hasn't managed a Welsh 6N chance I just don't know, if he played for any other team in the NH he'd be near first choice by now!!!

Hard to drop 1/2p I guess!

Ye I know but to not make a bench??? I thought he'd get a bench spot and on the pitch after THAT NZ performance!!

Yeah you're right. A bench spot should have happened more often. I guess Hook has had that honour, but I haven't watched any French rugby so can't comment on his suitability really. And he's not playing 15 in France as far as I know.

??? Hook is the 10 replacement

Liam Williams must be made of iron.

Late hit???

Sums up the ref right there

Great game to watch, well done Scarlets.

wales606 wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:I'd consider Hook the 10/centre cover and Williams back 3 though...

I guess Scott Williams is considered the better defender in midfield, and considering the importance of defence to Wales at the moment they don't want a weak defender at 13

So Hook is not strong enough defender at centre but his turnstile defence is suited to 15???

Ah, well done Scarlets. Much better team on the night. Deserved their win

Lovely run from the Scarlets 21 there.

what a side step. and again.

I didn't know Shane Williams had returned to play SH for the Scarlets?

Hope this is a try, he deserves it for that

How utterly humiliating.
Hope Townsend gives the team an utter bollocking. Absolutely unacceptable. There'd better be a backlash against the Ospreys

tigertattie wrote:Late hit???

Sums up the ref right there

Indeed. been several worse than that on Glasgow players. I was sceptical before about the complaints about Clancy - but he certainly has been much harsher on glasgow than Scarlets this game .

thebluesmancometh wrote:

wales606 wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:I'd consider Hook the 10/centre cover and Williams back 3 though...

I guess Scott Williams is considered the better defender in midfield, and considering the importance of defence to Wales at the moment they don't want a weak defender at 13

So Hook is not strong enough defender at centre but his turnstile defence is suited to 15???

When the blitz defence is use have a strong defender a 13 is far more important than at reserve FB

Scott can play on the wing too

wales606 wrote:

Griff wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Griff wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:How Liam Williams hasn't managed a Welsh 6N chance I just don't know, if he played for any other team in the NH he'd be near first choice by now!!!

Hard to drop 1/2p I guess!

Ye I know but to not make a bench??? I thought he'd get a bench spot and on the pitch after THAT NZ performance!!

Yeah you're right. A bench spot should have happened more often. I guess Hook has had that honour, but I haven't watched any French rugby so can't comment on his suitability really. And he's not playing 15 in France as far as I know.

??? Hook is the 10 replacement

Well, he's utility back so covers a few slots. Who was 15 replacement in the 6N then?

Griff wrote:

wales606 wrote:

Griff wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Griff wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:How Liam Williams hasn't managed a Welsh 6N chance I just don't know, if he played for any other team in the NH he'd be near first choice by now!!!

Hard to drop 1/2p I guess!

Ye I know but to not make a bench??? I thought he'd get a bench spot and on the pitch after THAT NZ performance!!

Yeah you're right. A bench spot should have happened more often. I guess Hook has had that honour, but I haven't watched any French rugby so can't comment on his suitability really. And he's not playing 15 in France as far as I know.

??? Hook is the 10 replacement

Well, he's utility back so covers a few slots. Who was 15 replacement in the 6N then?

Hook would have played 15, but you can't swap Scott/Liam for Hook because you need a 10 replacement

TJ wrote:

tigertattie wrote:Late hit???

Sums up the ref right there

Indeed. been several worse than that on Glasgow players. I was sceptical before about the complaints about Clancy - but he certainly has been much harsher on glasgow than Scarlets this game .

I'd be far more dissapointed at the Glasgow performance than the refs!!!

Poorest display by Glasgow for ages, ref didn't help for sure, but no getting away from the fact that Glasgow were terrible almost across the board. Selection was wrong, Weir and Matawalu are always significantly better than Jackson and Pyrgos and Swinson must play from the start. Glasgow are generally very good but the squad quality isn't as deep as we are led to believe.

Ospreys looking at that game will fancy their chances with their pack, they may fancy a bonus point win.

Well done Scarlets! That was a very good performance.

From a Glasgow point of view, I think it was wrong to have prygos and Jackson starting. I think it should have been either Weir with Prygos or Matawalu with Jackson. Jackson looked awful and Prygos took a while to get into the game due to lack of game time.

Glasgow were slow, a shadow of the team that smashed Munster and Dragons. There were some good individual performances from likes of Braclay, Reid, Kellock etc but overall it was too slow and predictable and Scarlets were very good in defence. I don't think Glasgow challenged them enough in the first half, all the Scarlets looked very fresh at the end. In previous games, Matawalu has been causing chaos and by the end the opposition have been tired and the tries have come in their droves.

Home game with Ospreys.. have to win it!

thebluesmancometh wrote:

TJ wrote:

tigertattie wrote:Late hit???

Sums up the ref right there

Indeed. been several worse than that on Glasgow players. I was sceptical before about the complaints about Clancy - but he certainly has been much harsher on glasgow than Scarlets this game .

I'd be far more dissapointed at the Glasgow performance than the refs!!!

Agree bluesman, I ain't blaming Clancey, he had a good game in my view. Too many errors from Glasgow. Jackson put the whole team under lots of pressure with his errors and Glasgow couldn't recover from it really. Very disappointing performance.. BUT, Glasgow are still on for a home final and that will be crucial.

Handling poor, decision making poor, attack poor, fringe defence poor.

Although Samson Lee had a stormer indeed, that was the worst scummaging i have seen from Glasgow this year, they need to stop messing up with Low and Welsh and Cusack needs to be back asap.

bsando - Clancy was Poopie - dozens of duff decsions and not exclusivly but mainly agaisnt Glasgow. Let the Scarelets scrum pop up and go backwards without a whistle and what was he thinking with the "late hit" on the scarlets benear the end - let at least two worse go.

awful performance that cost Glasgow significant points - tho probably not 23 points.

Great win Scarlets, congratulations. Dealt a serious blow to Glasgow's home play off hopes and seriously strengthened your own.

Thought Glasgow were very poor tonight, the forwards were second best apart from Barclay, Jackson cant play under pressure, Horne can't pass the ball and Lamont is just as poor. Bennett played 50 mins and never received a pass, how do you get a back three into a game when the only accurate passer of the ball never gets it ? Its time Townsend looked at the passing abilities of his back line before he selects the team. Hogg, Maitland and DTH were living on scraps.
Time to reflect and get it right for next week.

I'd like to see Harley back in the team, not sure who I'd drop though.

Tough for Bennett, didn't touch the ball and he's the first guy to get replaced.

How long is Dunbar out for, missed his direction through the middle to get on the front-foot.

Brilliant performance by the boys in red.Ken owens and samson lee were instrumental, I mean i've never seen a tight head with so much dominence at this age, not even the great one adam jones was this good at his age.
A sure player for the future, also ken owens ohhh cannonball is the best nickname for him.
Worst game glasgow have played all season though, surley one to forget but do us a favour and beat the spreys next week.
Interesting to see where we come know casue 3, 4 and 5 th are wide open.
Lets hav u Cardiff and treviso.

wales606 wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

wales606 wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

wales606 wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:Leicester have got a gem for next season. I am just glad Rhodri Williams is tied to Wales.

Hasnt Owen Williams played for the 7s?

The Scarlets SH today is a good find this season, where he they find him?

He has played for the U20's, and that means he can only play for Wales now.

Only if he played against France, or one of the other teams without an A side (Italy?)

He has played against Italy.



http://www.scarlets.co.uk/eng/news/5627.php

I think the U20s side has to be declared at their 2nd team - I know France are, not sure about the other U20s teams though

Owen williams is a welsh speaker so there is no chance of him playing for england!

Well played Scarlets,
Gutted by the lack of a crowd, just 6900 on a dry and mild night, people down here will never pay to watch the game live as long as its free on the telly.

jimbopip wrote:Time to don my best bib and tucker: last words Glasgow to get 5pts as
know they need WBP to stay in hunt for play offs. In an open game our counter-attacking back three will run riot, as long as Hornee and tacle like demons. Glasgow by 15pts.

oops. Misplaced confidence I fear..............I'd watch out for the 'spreys too - if they can put out their first chioce pack

2ndtimeround wrote:Well played Scarlets,
Gutted by the lack of a crowd, just 6900 on a dry and mild night, people down here will never pay to watch the game live as long as its free on the telly.

I think kick off time is the main issue. If you finish work at 5.30 on a friday there simply isn't enough time for most people to get to the game for a 7 oclock kick off unless you live in llanelli. Hopefully sky will come along and give some saturday afternoon kick off times.

I can understand the fans from the towns further out struggling to get to PYS on a Friday night but the take up from Llanelli itself is poor which is what grates with me.
Should be no excuses next week though with a Saturday evening game and a Welsh derby at that.
Will we actually get a double figure crowd though?

2ndtimeround wrote:I can understand the fans from the towns further out struggling to get to PYS on a Friday night but the take up from Llanelli itself is poor which is what grates with me.
Should be no excuses next week though with a Saturday evening game and a Welsh derby at that.
Will we actually get a double figure crowd though?

Traveling is no excuse, I can make it frim Milford Haven to turk town on a friday night easily enough after work.

I think this game has helped the Scarlets big tim as we are only a few points shy of Glasgow now, so whoever wins next week between Glasgow and Ospreys doesn't really dent our chances. But that said I think Glasgow are going to be a totally different animal at home.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

2ndtimeround wrote:I can understand the fans from the towns further out struggling to get to PYS on a Friday night but the take up from Llanelli itself is poor which is what grates with me.
Should be no excuses next week though with a Saturday evening game and a Welsh derby at that.
Will we actually get a double figure crowd though?

Traveling is no excuse, I can make it frim Milford Haven to turk town on a friday night easily enough after work.

I think this game has helped the Scarlets big tim as we are only a few points shy of Glasgow now, so whoever wins next week between Glasgow and Ospreys doesn't really dent our chances. But that said I think Glasgow are going to be a totally different animal at home.

Would a draw be to much to hope for!

great win, but couldn't help but be saddened that the likes of owen williams and george north won't be around next season. think owen can really push flood for a starting spot with the tigers next season. i'd take him to japan this summer to make sure he's tied to wales.

liam williams did play well, but he's had a few shockers recently too. tends to have blinkers on and looks for contact too often. maybe someone has had a word with him, cause yesterday he did seem to mix his game up more. no doubting he's all heart though!

thought gog played well at 8 for the first time, ken and samson stood out in the front row. snyman is slowly becoming a fans favorite, rarely plays badly. great platform for our half backs and centres. guess the back three were expecting to see more of the ball. our bench although looking weak on paper, actually made an impact when they came on.

thought barclay stood out for glasgow, head and shoulders their best player last night. he'll be a loss to them if he leaves in the summer.

Owen williams is a welsh speaker so there is no chance of him playing for england!

Tigers will not encourage him to change alliance. The last thing they need is another player disappearing off with England for long stretches of time. They'll hope he plays for Wales as that'll advance him technically with top level experience and he'll only he unavailable for a minimal number of games.

How has he been playing of late? The Tigers fans are all behind him already as we're not keen to see Ryan Lamb on the bench.

formerly known as Sam wrote:

Owen williams is a welsh speaker so there is no chance of him playing for england!

Tigers will not encourage him to change alliance. The last thing they need is another player disappearing off with England for long stretches of time. They'll hope he plays for Wales as that'll advance him technically with top level experience and he'll only he unavailable for a minimal number of games.

How has he been playing of late? The Tigers fans are all behind him already as we're not keen to see Ryan Lamb on the bench.

Played really well yesterday. great kicking game, won the territory battle and kept us moving forward. showed intelligence and confidence to go for the drop goal when there was nothing on. he was also solid in defence when called upon.

he's only had 6 regional games for us, but he has been impressive. think priestland will be relieved that he's moving on, as i think owen could have possibly kept the 10 jersey off him . just hoping steve shingler will step up to the mark once owen has gone.

Very very disappointing from a Glasgow perspective - blown away by an intense display from Scarlets :bravo: I fear that Townsend's resting of Grant, Welsh and Swinson could come back to haunt him. But no excuse for the lack of intensity from the players. I believe that they will still make the playoffs, but it will be an away trip at best

If Gatland was there the Scottish representation on the Lions tour will be even lower than it was going to be.Oh dear!

You really are a complete bell-end, Taff

Which Scottish lads enhanced their chances?Be real.

Wow - glad I didn't see this one - sounds horrible from a Glasgow perspective - well done to the Scarlets. Absolutely desperate that we got nothing from the game - I was hoping for a LBP at least. What an enormous turnaround in form from Munster - should hopefully give Toonie a lesson in messing around with a settled team.

If Jackson really did play that badly, how can he be no inconsistent??

This also sounds like what happens if you keep swapping props around. We need Cusack and Grant back immediately.

Really didn't want to be heading into the last 2 games needing bonus point wins for a home semi but that's where we are. If we had to play the Spreys away, then we would probably lose. At home, who knows??

Keep them coming Taff.

Like shooting fish in a barrel reporting your pointless, worthless, unpleasant posts.

George Carlin wrote:Keep them coming Taff.

Like shooting fish in a barrel reporting your pointless, worthless, unpleasant posts.

As you didn't see the game what are you basing this post on?Any opinion that does not match yours is pointless,worthless and unpleasant.Thank goodness you are not arrogant.

Speak to the mods, Taff.
I have no intention wasting any more time with you.

George,I have had enough of your stalking.Welcome to my ignore list.Life is too short to deal with specimens such as you.