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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

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Breaking News: Leicester Tigers secure top spot and a home semi-final with their first bonus point win of the league season against Bath at The Rec.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:52 am

Chiefs rather looked in top nick.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:59 am

No idea it was in NZ Steve, that's a very impressive win then.

Obviously didn't see game

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 12:20 pm

I've not seen it, but only read report from NZ website, and if NZ'ers say Cooper has played well then he generally has as they aren't his biggest fans.

Reds are a good squad but even I'd be impressed if they won the title this year. Genia, Horwill, Cooper so key for them and Gill coming into that bracket of importance. He has had a fine start to the season.

What a win Kings!!!! Drop goal last play. Draw last week with last kick and win this week.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 12:49 pm

Super rugby confuses me sometimes.

Sam Norton Knight looks like a good player.....

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 12:55 pm

Hope Force stay in this. Want it to be a contest

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 12:57 pm

Doing more than staying in it, look the best side everywhere bar the scrum.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 1:17 pm

Kyle Godwin impresses me whenever I see him.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 1:20 pm

Norton-knight always good on the front foot in a side that's happy to run it.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 1:41 pm

Seymour brilliant at breakdown first 10 mins. Two quality turnovers.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 13 Apr 2013, 4:36 pm

Never understand why Quins dont always play Botica at 12 - changes their team and is a great player next to Evans.

Charlie Matthews looks better in each game too - played very well for England u20s a few years back when he was in the same side as Launchbury and Wade.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 8:15 pm

Because his defence isn't strong enough for 12 and Casson/JTH are better players

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Post by Fluxy Sat 13 Apr 2013, 8:16 pm

Casson the better player all round, and will flourish playing games.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 8:18 pm

Botica a great player. I like him with Lowe or Hopper outside him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 8:24 pm

He's no 12 imo

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 8:25 pm

Played well today.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 10:34 pm

Botica a decent player and good defender. Jdj kept up his great form.

Love the stormers front row.
Big futures at prop.

Francois steyn poor again. Wonder what's wrong with him. Pure talent but has seasons where he is so poor it's untrue. Usually backs it up with incredible the year after.

On his day one of best players in world and a unique talent

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:42 pm

Did you watch the game today then Pooly? Your comments suggest that you didn't as Botica got motm at 12 and he's a very good tackler.

Only issue for me is his pace, but put Hopper or Lowe outside him then that doesn't really matter - good distributor, kicker and tackles - also saw that when he's on the pitch with Evans he'll take the kicks at goal.

Heard Cooper was good today Steve.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:45 pm

No didn't see it, not a Botica fan at all.

One player I hope once becomes EQ never turns out for England.

And Botica does have a poor defence.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 2:00 pm

Just watched a lock outpace a 10....

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Apr 2013, 3:01 pm

Anyone know if Tigers v Wasps is on the box?

Am expecting a bit of a pasting in this one, we've rested a lot of our players or quite a few are injured.

Playing a new 12 today as well (Charlie Hayter), and I think this is his first start, has looked good from the bench when he's played. Could be worth a punt from someone.

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 14 Apr 2013, 3:07 pm

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 3:09 pm

They signed him from a championship club is that right Chris ?

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Apr 2013, 3:13 pm

Yeah they got him from Moseley - I am pretty sure he may have played at Worcester before that - seems good at line breaks and has some serious gas and can finish.

Cheers Prop! Think Wasps are missing 10 first team players today, whilst Tigers have put out nearly the same team as they did last week. Could be one of those 80mins that feels like a week!

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 3:15 pm

I think the playoff spots are pretty much confirmed as being the current top 4

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Apr 2013, 3:27 pm

Got to be a final of Tigers and Sarries the way they are both playing. Find it quite difficult to look beyond Sarries though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:14 pm

Wasps getting steam rollered, masterclass from Youngs so far

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:18 pm

Wade off, tactical?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:22 pm

Drew Mitchell to Toulon, him & Habana on the wings next season

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:24 pm

We've got our eye on Exeter next week Prop, have to admit expecting that we could lose by 20+ points, but looking like it could be a whole lot more than that!

We play it too wide too early all the time, no one can straighten it up for us apart from Vunipola and AJ - compare that to Leicester who have so much power and just make yards every time.


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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:37 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Wasps getting steam rollered, masterclass from Youngs so far

Too be fair anyone would look good with that platform. Done well though but still takes those stupid steps before passing which kills you at international games.

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:45 pm

Interesting article from telegraph comparing salvi and armitage in part

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:45 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9991081/Leicester-flanker-Julian-Salvi-is-the-seasons-hidden-gem.html

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Post by Fluxy Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:46 pm

Convenient plugging, considering you just signed him... Whistle

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:48 pm

Both decent 7's, not really top draw I don't think. Salvi can get out muscled easily and still question marks over Steffon at the top level.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:49 pm

In fine form is Salvi. Leicester very good at signing great AP players.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:50 pm

Fluxy wrote:Convenient plugging, considering you just signed him... Whistle

Haha, thought it was random. Never heard you rate him before lol

Would get hammered off the top 7's like McCaw, Pocock etc but good AP 7.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:51 pm

Salvi has been best backrow in the AP this season for me too, makes Tigers tick and has great running lines and link play. Always felt he was underrated in this game.

And just what we need to see Castro and Waldroum on - wish Wasps had that strength in depth.

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:52 pm

It's the comparison of styles that's interesting in the article. They measure everything now. Be interesting to see the sky analysis stuff they talk of for each position.


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Post by Fluxy Sun 14 Apr 2013, 4:57 pm

Bit of an odd comparison, as they both play the game a bit differently

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:02 pm

Exactly that's what's interesting the different ways the game can be played.

Be interesting to see the pro zone stats for tight heads Etc.

Bet dan cole would have stats through the roof in terms of coverage of pitch

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:03 pm

Salvi an average player in Super rugby, shows how bad the 7's are in the AP really.

Imagine a McCaw, Pocock etc, they'd clean up.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:19 pm

Elliot Daly has to tour with England in the summer, such an exciting runner. At least that is one thing for Wasps we are almost always getting try of the week this year!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:21 pm

He certainly does chris. Very talented rugby player. 13 or 15 his best position for you Chris? I think I prefer him at 15.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:22 pm

Fantastic break, he's very slight though. Can't see him getting past Goode, Brown at FB.

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:23 pm

His tackling is
Really good he has made so
Many tackles on people running flat out. He will get bigger.

I think he is an excellent player already

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Post by Fluxy Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:23 pm

Would like to see him at 13, I think we have enough at fullback. Although could be our Halfpenny at fullback!

I remember watching score a hattrick in the U20 Six nations against Italy - class act.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:25 pm

He's a real talent but just too small at the min I think

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:26 pm

He will get bigger and is not tiny

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:28 pm

He's taller and weighs more than Alex Goode.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Apr 2013, 5:31 pm

dammit_chris wrote:He's taller and weighs more than Alex Goode.

I don't think he is.

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