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POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Leicester Tigers	21	17	1	3	542	460	+82	60	43	1	3	74
2	Harlequins	21	15	0	6	550	499	+51	60	50	3	5	68
3	Gloucester	21	14	0	7	546	488	+58	63	50	4	5	65
4	Newcastle Falcons	21	13	1	7	530	485	+45	56	45	1	7	62
5	Sale Sharks	21	12	0	9	536	508	+28	58	52	2	9	59
6	London Irish	21	11	0	10	532	517	+15	57	52	3	9	56
7	Northampton Saints	21	11	1	9	526	511	+15	55	53	2	8	56
8	London Welsh	21	9	3	9	495	484	+11	53	48	0	9	51
9	Bath Rugby	21	9	0	12	487	519	-32	46	56	0	8	44
10	Saracens	21	5	1	15	437	528	-91	39	57	0	7	29
11	Worcester Warriors	21	3	1	17	452	516	-64	39	57	1	11	26
12	London Wasps	21	3	0	18	419	537	-118	37	60	0	13	25

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 18:45

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Where you off to then? Closer to the smoke?

Chris, do Wasps have a reserve game at Adams park this week? Stuck at High Wycombe Mon-Fri

Moving to Cotswolds a bit closer to
The smoke though. 1hr 10
To London. Close enough.

That was good by smith then but he has been beyond bad this year.
People have worked out how to rattle him. Does not help playing for highlanders

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 18:47

Best commentary ever.

The guy referred to Flynn and hore bickering as being like Arthur and terry on minder. That's a blast from the past

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 18:48

Highlanders really struggled, looking a bit better here.

Nice part of world, where abouts?

I lived in MQ in Carterton which is a dump surrounded by some really smart villages.

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 18:49

Malmesbury area

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 18:51

Person I am buying off has assed around at last moment and put the move back 4 weeks. I can't do 4 weeks as I am off to states for 3 weeks so looking like 2 months time now.

Furious with them.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 18:54

Wrong side for me, lovely round there though. Would love to settle round there, the North is pump

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 18:55

Can you not reduce offer? Hate being in a chain, too many idiots about

by Fluxy Sat 20 Apr - 19:00

Coming from the staunch northerner who thinks the south is soft Pooly? Wink

Matt, I'm a Falcons fan but I have interest in Bath (because I'm at uni there). Although I follow other places, like Pirates, Leeds and Plymouth just out of interest and knowing family around there

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 19:06

South is soft but it's a better life down there. We have some good cities like Leeds, Manchester but the South has much better prospects.

Love the North but its generally rubbish for work.

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 19:09

There is no chain and I am a
Cash buyer as renting out my place. The sellers are moving abroad but their dog has been knocked over and the dog needs to convalesce.

You could not dream it up

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 19:11

Knock 5k off man, test them out Wink

by stnick88 Sat 20 Apr - 19:15

Pooly what do u mean stuck in high Wycombe, u should be honoured to be here, my home town! U staying at daws hill?

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 19:17

I lived in Leeds and Manchester. Loved Manchester hated Leeds. The people ruin Leeds.

Generally the north has a lot of hell holes like Rotherham Barnsley etc. I find the countryside like the dales and stuff so bleak I find it depressing. Weather was the biggest thing that drove me back

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 19:18

High Wycombe is like Swindon . Was there the other day

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 19:20

Weather is shocking, I'll be in shorts down south and get home and it's 10' cooler.

Poor you Nick lol.

I'm up at Waters Ash site, down the bunker. Camp is worst in forces, food and gym are shocking.

You know of any games with Wasps reserves next week?

by prop_lyd Sat 20 Apr - 19:28

Someone just took the house we were going for from under our noses yesterday!! So off hunting again next week.

In other news Cardiff Saracens (team I captain) can win the league today with a bonus point win!!!!

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 19:33

Do you fancy your chances prop ?

by prop_lyd Sat 20 Apr - 19:37

Yeah I do, the team we're playing we beat 50-20 last time and they lost 106-0 a few weeks ago....can't be complacent mind!

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 19:39

Buying a house is usually a nightmare. I was not looking to move but ended up
In the Cotswolds about 2 months ago Liked the town and bought a house 3 days later. Only looked at 3.

Usually takes months. Women very picky over houses

by prop_lyd Sat 20 Apr - 19:41

,Me and my other half loved the one that went, found another quite close to it that looks just as good but a bit cheaper so fingers crossed the viewing goes well!!

by Fluxy Sat 20 Apr - 19:52

Great start by the Brumbies.

by Guest Sat 20 Apr - 19:54

So well coached Fluxy. Would have loved white to be England coach. He is a genius of coaching.

Wonder if anyone will buy George smith in foreigns. Bit of a punt but he may stay on

by Fluxy Sat 20 Apr - 19:55

Too much of a risk for me, 31 and only staying in Oz for the Lions I think. Got another year in Japan I believe?

by Fluxy Sat 20 Apr - 20:02

Great try by Reds if its given! Dodgy grounding though

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 20:35

Mogg is shoe in for Aus FB spot, class act.

Coopers defence is laughable, he looks scared to tackle

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 20:38

anonmattyt wrote:Wonder if anyone will buy George smith in foreigns. Bit of a punt but he may stay on

He's getting massively overrated during games. He's playing well but nowhere near the level they keep banging on about

by stnick88 Sat 20 Apr - 20:57

It's Poopie round there pOoly, weird little villages like naphill. Nothing going on. Dont know about wasps mate, they're at home v Exeter tomorrow though.

by Steven_Sharks Sat 20 Apr - 20:58

Smith played better than he has today though recently. Gill playing well and winning that battle.

Reds on top and play lovely stuff but Brumbies very clinical. Can't call it.

by dammit_chris Sat 20 Apr - 21:01

Pooly you will be pleased to know that WIll Greenwood has written another good article - this riveting read speaks about the unsung heroes in the AP. You will enjoy it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/10006587/The-Aviva-Premierships-real-unsung-heroes.html

by dammit_chris Sat 20 Apr - 21:02

Pooly you will be pleased to know that WIll Greenwood has written another good article - this riveting read speaks about the unsung heroes in the AP. You will enjoy it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/10006587/The-Aviva-Premierships-real-unsung-heroes.html

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 21:05

Went running round Naphill, there's a cracking bank, was hanging.

Wasps reserve games this week Chris?

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 21:08

Best I've seen Smith play, been better than Gill who's had an off day. Commentators cream their pants tho

by Steven_Sharks Sat 20 Apr - 21:09

Never. Gill had so much more of an influence on this game. Been fantastic.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 21:11

Can't see it, Smith been better for me. Think Gill has been quiet.

C'mon Brumbies, can't stand Reds with Coopers stupid smug face.

by dammit_chris Sat 20 Apr - 21:14

Pooly, I think the A league matches stopped in January and can't remember another reserve game since - I don't think we have the squad size to put teams out, as give most of our players to Henley (I think!).

by Fluxy Sat 20 Apr - 21:14

Both had their moments. Gill pinched a ball or two and had that pass earlier which was class.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 21:19

dammit_chris wrote:Pooly, I think the A league matches stopped in January and can't remember another reserve game since - I don't think we have the squad size to put teams out, as give most of our players to Henley (I think!).

Shame, it's only 5mins away. Was hoping to catch some midweek action but its hard to come by

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 21:21

Try??? Surely White held that up??

by Driver Sat 20 Apr - 21:41

Phhhhhh southerners, almost as bad ad mackems.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 23:00

Healy: Off fast ball Ben Youngs is best scrum half in NH

Can't argue with that

by **Ozzy3213** Sat 20 Apr - 23:10

Yeah, if Austin Healy says a Leicester player is the best, it must be true! Laugh

by LukeLovesLuka Sat 20 Apr - 23:11

Prefer the French srum halfs personally. Parra, Yach better players than Youngs.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 20 Apr - 23:22

Parra/Yach aren't better off quick ball though. Both better tactical players without doubt.

First time I've heard Healy praise Youngs, he's normally ripping him

by **Ozzy3213** Sat 20 Apr - 23:31

Never heard him do anything other than @rse kiss any player in a Tigers jersey.

When I have watched Youngs this season he has been so erratic it is untrue. At times he is sensational, then I watch him fizz passes to Flood which look great at first glance as they are quick, but when you watch closely Flood is continually taking the ball above his head and having to pull it down to do anything with it. Youngs has had a pretty average season in my opinion.

by dammit_chris Sat 20 Apr - 23:46

Have to say that was one of the tries of the season by Youngs. Can be absolute world class.

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 21 Apr - 1:07

I missed it!

I've always rated him highly, can take teams apart and not many scrum halfs can do that.

by prop_lyd Sun 21 Apr - 1:38

Champions!!!! Get in!!!! Bring on the beer

by Guest Sun 21 Apr - 2:40

Well done prop. Always likes Cardiff Quins. Good bunch and good club.

Glos were amazing today. Johnny may showed his magic. Such a finisher.

Robson got yellowed with 20 left and Tomkins scored to make it close but burns slotted a late late pen.

Great day out. Heard bath were outstanding also which is a shame

by Guest Sun 21 Apr - 2:57

Northampton have had the ball nearly scored yet ref still comes back for advantage. Don't understand how long ref plays advantage.

Anyone seen bath game today. ? Apparently a fantastic game of rugby.

This weather helps. Glos a different team with sunny weather and hard pitches

by dammit_chris Sun 21 Apr - 3:01

Heard Tomkins did his chances to tour with England no harm today Mat? Looks like he will get the England 13 shirt, especially with Gustard in charge this summer.

The Bath game was a really good one to watch, had some good tries and a great tempo - really physical, thought Rob Webber had a very good game, Youngs scored one of the best tries of the season, tap and go from his own 22.

Hartley looks like he's got a point to prove at the moment!

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