2012/13 Premier League discussion thread Part 6

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As you were...

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Nonsense, his passing and first touch are exceptional. Vision included, wonderful vision. Kagawa has a long way to go yet, he drifts out of games far too easily. Kagawa doesn't provide that pass for the Villa volley, he's not that type of player. He's a player who has been limited by United having one notable midfielder.

Rooney just isn't a popular sort of player. English football is so jealous of Spain that anyone who embodies the classic gusto spirit is not fashionable. He'd improve every single team in the Premier League. Every team in the world in fact.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Improve every team in the Prem? Yes.

Improve every team in the world? No.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I'd take him over each of Barca's front three except Messi. Over Benzema and Higuain. I think he's certainly good enough to improve Dortmund and Bayern too. Those are probably the top four of football currently. Juve would cry out for him if they had the clout.

[Stella]

Rooney at his best would be an asset to most teams. Think he may get back to that if he leaves.

[Duty281]

I saw a man the other day,
He said to me he's found the white Pele.
So I asked, who is he?
He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney.
Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney
He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney!

[Kenny]

was he on drugs ?

[Stella]

was he on drugs ?

Pele?

Viagra :-)

[Kenny]

was he on drugs ?

Pele?

Viagra :-)

That's Hard on him

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Be interesting to see how Moyes lines up tactically. Pienaar would be his Kagawa and he has always been used as a kind of inside left.

[westisbest]

was he on drugs ?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport
David Moyes is confirmed as Sir Alex Ferguson's successor at Manchester United on a six-year deal. #mufc #efc

[GSC]

Pete O'Rourke ‏@SkySportsPeteO 1m Ferguson: "When we discussed the candidates that we felt had the right attributes we unanimously agreed on David Moyes."

So yeah, Fergie picked him.

[owen10ozzy]

Perfect choice really,

Everyone is saying 'oh he lacks winning trophies'...but it's not like he will be coming into the job with no one behind him to help guide him. Fergie will be moving upstairs and given the friendship between them I fully expect him to visit the training ground and changing room before games much more than normal 'directors'. The 6 year deal shows the faith he has in Moyes and much more than that gives an indication that he will be phased in, as much as you can in such a high profile job, as THE MAN. Fergie will be behind him every step of the way.

No one deserves the opportunity more than this guy and whilst Mourinho would have been a great manager...he does not fit into the ideology and ethos which Manchester United have.

I for one am happy to see a British manager getting the biggest job in English football...and would have expected many more to be pleased given the amount of times clubs receive stick for hiring foreign managers and players and not giving homegrown talent a chance to shine.

Best of luck to him...having met him a few times he has the same kind of characteristics as Ferguson and certainly has the potential to create that aura which surrounds Sir Alex.

[JamesLincs]

i think the criticism of rooney is very unfair. he isnt an out and out striker but look at his record for both club and country. and look who he has goals against aswell and some of the goals hes scored. i imagine his assists count is pretty good too. and still only 27. is also set to be england all time record goalscorer easily, and at worst, second top premier league scorer. you cant fault his workrate and teamwork either. if i was rooney, i would be expecting to be in united's first eleven every week, hes had a quiet season, in and out of the team. i dont blame rooney if hes not happy

i think some people just want to criticise for the sake of it

[Duty281]

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/e/4421033/Next-Permanent-Everton-Manager.html

Odds on next Everton manager. Martinez favourite, then Phil Neville, then Neil Lennon. Outsiders are Benitez, Hughes, O'Neill, and RDM. Anyone but Lennon is my thinking.

[Guest]

My mate at work thinks Benitez will get it. My mate at work is batty.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Unfortunately with Moyes leaving Everton, and Martinez being linked, we again have to deal with the buffoonary of Dave Whelan again.

Starts off with this... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8700404/Wigan-chairman-Dave-Whelan-Everton-not-big-enough-for-Roberto-Martinez

[Nakatomi Plaza]

Unfortunately with Moyes leaving Everton, and Martinez being linked, we again have to deal with the buffoonary of Dave Whelan again.

Starts off with this... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8700404/Wigan-chairman-Dave-Whelan-Everton-not-big-enough-for-Roberto-Martinez

So that's both the Merseyside clubs, and Villa who are too small for Bobby M. Who does Dave Whelan think is big enough, Barcelona, Real Madrid? Bloke's off his rocker.

[hornbloweroafc]

Did you know Dave Whelan once played in an FA cup final and broke is leg?

[GSC]

I cannot wait until Wigan are relegated so we never hear from Dave Whelan again

[NickisBHAFC]

Buzzing for David Moyes, has done so well at Everton and has proven to be one of the best managers in the Prem. Don't forget he has **** all money at Everton. Really has done a superb job there. Apart from Fergie, Moyes is probably the 2nd best manager in the league. Going to be interesting to see what happens next.

As for Everton manager. I really hope its Martinez, deserves so much better than Wigan.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2321999/Michael-Laudrup-wants-Bradley-Johnson-Swansea-4m.html

What the hell?! He can't pass

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Coral opened up with Baines 16/1 to join United. Wish I'd got on that

[Guest]

I cannot wait until Wigan are relegated so we never hear from Dave Whelan again

Couldn't agree more. The Haidara challenge and his comments post match riled me. Hope Arsenal bang 5 past them and put them out their misery.

[Ent]

Reassure him, play well get picked, play Poopie don't (I.e. this season)

I think this season is what is making him want to leave though, it's almost as if he wants assurances that he is undroppable. It's pretty obvious that he wants to leave because Fergie kept dropping him, justifiably, for the big games.

He's played crap this season, it's fairly simple - play better and you won't get dropped.

[GSC]

AS seem to think Pellegrini is the new City manager, with Isco to follow

[westisbest]

Villa v chelsea.

Can we make it 3 wins on the trot?

Think,it will be a draw.

2 games left. Hoping Benteke can get to 20 league goals.

[The Special Juan]

AS seem to think Pellegrini is the new City manager, with Isco to follow

To happen at the end of the season or is Mancini to be dumped out after the game against Wigan?

[GSC]

Presumably the former but probably the latter knowing that club

[Guest]

What has Pellegrini ever done in the world of football?

Answers on a postcard.

[GSC]

Take Vilarreal to the CL Semi final in a shoe string budget (they have since been relegated)
Set a record points tally for RM and get sacked (sadly not the harshest sacking, see F.Capello)
Done pretty well in tough times with Malaga

[Kenny]

So Mancini to PSG , Ancellotti to Real Madrid , Mourinho to Chelsea , and Rafa back to his house in Liverpool to manage the little club Everton

[GSC]

If Rafa ends up at Everton I will be amazed. I'm sure he'd like to, I'm not sure he'd mesh with that club very well though

[Guest]

Take Vilarreal to the CL Semi final in a shoe string budget (they have since been relegated)
Set a record points tally for RM and get sacked (sadly not the harshest sacking, see F.Capello)
Done pretty well in tough times with Malaga

But effectively done nothing of any note and about to enter his 60's.

Advantage Moyes and Mourinho.

[Guest]

If Rafa ends up at Everton I will be amazed. I'm sure he'd like to, I'm not sure he'd mesh with that club very well though

My mate at work is convinced he'll get the gig but I'll eat my own sh!t if it happens.

[GSC]

Well the CL semi and the record points tally at RM is fairly impressive.

Certainly more than Moyes has ever done by your logic

[Kenny]

Take Vilarreal to the CL Semi final in a shoe string budget (they have since been relegated)
Set a record points tally for RM and get sacked (sadly not the harshest sacking, see F.Capello)
Done pretty well in tough times with Malaga

But effectively done nothing of any note and about to enter his 60's.

Advantage Moyes and Mourinho.

I'd say given some money and spending it wisely .........advantage Wenger

[Guest]

Take Vilarreal to the CL Semi final in a shoe string budget (they have since been relegated)
Set a record points tally for RM and get sacked (sadly not the harshest sacking, see F.Capello)
Done pretty well in tough times with Malaga

But effectively done nothing of any note and about to enter his 60's.

Advantage Moyes and Mourinho.

I'd say given some money and spending it wisely .........advantage Wenger

Wenger has always had money available. His stubborn nature has been his undoing.

[Guest]

Well the CL semi and the record points tally at RM is fairly impressive.

Certainly more than Moyes has ever done by your logic

David O'Leary has made a CL semi.

A record points tally means zip if it doesn't bring silverware.

[Kenny]

Take Vilarreal to the CL Semi final in a shoe string budget (they have since been relegated)
Set a record points tally for RM and get sacked (sadly not the harshest sacking, see F.Capello)
Done pretty well in tough times with Malaga

But effectively done nothing of any note and about to enter his 60's.

Advantage Moyes and Mourinho.

I'd say given some money and spending it wisely .........advantage Wenger

Wenger has always had money available. His stubborn nature has been his undoing.

Final year of his contract he might just think sod it and go for it

[The Special Juan]

If Rafa ends up at Everton I will be amazed. I'm sure he'd like to, I'm not sure he'd mesh with that club very well though

My mate at work is convinced he'll get the gig but I'll eat my own sh!t if it happens.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/30/cooking-with-poo-oddest-title-prize

[Guest]

If Rafa ends up at Everton I will be amazed. I'm sure he'd like to, I'm not sure he'd mesh with that club very well though

My mate at work is convinced he'll get the gig but I'll eat my own sh!t if it happens.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/30/cooking-with-poo-oddest-title-prize

Yum, yum.

[GSC]

David O'Leary was a quality manager for about 90 minutes

Its not Pellegrinis fault he ran into the greatest club side of the decade in their pomp, nor that he was afforded none of the patience Mourinho was

[Guest]

G, are you for for or against Moyes' appointment?

I think they've got it spot on.

[GSC]

I'm neither atm. I think its better than Mourinho who would've run roughshod over the club, but I stick to my Ancelotti to bridge to a younger manager assessment.

I like Pellegrini. He's gotten the most out of clubs wherever hes been.

[Duty281]

So if Chelsea beat Villa today, and I have full confidence they will quite comfortably, their place in the CL next season will be secured (barring a ridiculous GD swing).

[The Special Juan]

A point for Villa will just about do them and a win will definitely keep them safe.

[Galted]

David O'Leary was a quality manager for about 90 minutes

Not far wrong - he was 2 games from getting Villa into the Champions League - was good at Villa to start with until it went spectacularly pear-shaped.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

A Chelsea win and a Norwich win tomorrow sees us safe.

Come on you blues

[NickisBHAFC]

Im going for Aston Villa 2-1 Chelsea.

Last minute winner from Darren Bent.

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