2012/13 Premier League discussion thread Part 6

[Guest]

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As you were...

[JamesLincs]

flukiest top 4 finish ive ever seen

[The Special Juan]

Oh, when I said I expected a Ramsey winner today, I meant Tuesday

Well.....

[Fernando]

So which celebrity dies tomorrow.

i suspect 90% of the world is hoping for Bieber

[westisbest]

About time they went down.

Just hope we go to the DW and hammer the final nail in their relagation coffin.

Now we need to regroup for next season.
Dont want anymore of this lower table rubbish.

[Guest]

Oh, when I said I expected a Ramsey winner today, I meant Tuesday

Well.....

Unless Wigan get 2 more I'm not having that Juan.

[Fernando]

flukiest top 4 finish ive ever seen

Do your job properly and you wouldn't be in this position although it's not over yet

[Gregers]

You know its bad when Ramsey scores

[JamesLincs]

who are the contenders?

bieber
jolie
roache

[The Special Juan]

Oh, when I said I expected a Ramsey winner today, I meant Tuesday

Well.....

Unless Wigan get 2 more I'm not having that Juan.

Fair enough, come on Wigan!! Metesacker OG x2!!

[Duty281]

Ramsey goal: 5-1-11, vs. Manchester United. Next day: Osama bin Laden killed.

Ramsey goal: 10-2-11, vs. Tottenham. Three days later: Steve Jobs died.

Ramsey goal: 10-19-11, vs. Marseille. Next day: Gaddafi killed.

Ramsey goal: 2-11-12, vs. Sunderland. That night: Whitney Houston died.

What a curse! Mugabe? Assad? Blair? Bush?

[Guest]

Katie Price would be nice.

[Lumbering_Jack]

Thank god for that. Good riddance to Wigan, a team that offer nothing to the premier league other than urine poor crowds making as little noise as possible.

In particular Whelan and the horrible Scouse runt Mcmanaman.

[Guest]

Plenty of empty seats for the Arsenal players to applaud at the end of the game there.

[The Special Juan]

Think Arteta's moving on at the end of the season?

[Gregers]

Thank god for that. Good riddance to Wigan, a team that offer nothing to the premier league other than urine poor crowds making as little noise as possible.

In particular Whelan and the horrible Scouse runt Mcmanaman.

Mcmanaman will be a future england star

Wigan have been in the prem 8 years and won the fa cup, arsenal have been in the prem for last 8 years and won nothing

[Ent]

Whilst Wigan are a small club they offer good football and some good memories.

More than a lot of the clubs offer anyway.

[Lumbering_Jack]

And maybe all this bluster can stop about Martinez. His team are in an annual relegation scrap yet he is lauded as some sort of genius. He'll hopefully find his level in the championship.

[Guest]

I'm putting this out there.

Newcastle will get something Sunday.

[Lumbering_Jack]

Whilst Wigan are a small club they offer good football and some good memories.

More than a lot of the clubs offer anyway.

Attacking wise possibly but defensively they are disgraceful.

[The Special Juan]

I don't think they'll come back any time soon as they're lack of strength in depth will cost them in the end, plus playing in the Championship won't mask the fact that they can't defend.


I miss Bolton

[Gregers]

Parachute payment, some investment from Whelan, sell kone/mcmanaman/mcarther. Could be a good amount to build a defence

[Gregers]

Oh and Europa money

[The Special Juan]

Interesting point but if they sell those players then they lose their attack. I think they're in a horrible position at the moment. Ok, the EL will bring in a bit of money but the squad is tiny and I wonder if their league performances will suffer greatly.

[Gregers]

I reckon theyll be fine, probably more in birminghams situation than any one else's. Jordi Gomez could look good in the championship

I worry more for QPR if I'm honest

[westisbest]

Think Kone, McCarthy, Maloney maybe McArther will leave.

Possibly Al Habsi.

I expect Wigan to be a mid table championship team for a while now.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

And maybe all this bluster can stop about Martinez. His team are in an annual relegation scrap yet he is lauded as some sort of genius. He'll hopefully find his level in the championship.

Yeah he only led them to the FA Cup and Europe this season, how bad must he be...

[The Special Juan]

I think QPR are in massive trouble unless they do some real work in the summer clearing players on ridiculous salaries out but with Arry in charge their fans should be worried.

I agree westy, they might not struggle near the bottom but I don't see them coming up in the near future.

[Gregers]

And maybe all this bluster can stop about Martinez. His team are in an annual relegation scrap yet he is lauded as some sort of genius. He'll hopefully find his level in the championship.

Yeah he only led them to the FA Cup and Europe this season, how bad must he be...

I mean Martinez is working at a club that was never going to haul itself up the table. Much better than Pardew, Redknapp, Adkins etc

[Guest]

Wigan will linger in the way that Middlesbrough and Derby linger now.

[Gregers]

I think QPR are in massive trouble unless they do some real work in the summer clearing players on ridiculous salaries out but with Arry in charge their fans should be worried.

I agree westy, they might not struggle near the bottom but I don't see them coming up in the near future.

Mid table championship teams have the possibility to reach the playoffs, such a tight league

QPR could do a wolves

[Lumbering_Jack]

And maybe all this bluster can stop about Martinez. His team are in an annual relegation scrap yet he is lauded as some sort of genius. He'll hopefully find his level in the championship.

Yeah he only led them to the FA Cup and Europe this season, how bad must he be...

He took them down. And they have been in numerous scraps when he is in charge. It's laughable.

[GSC]

Tbf, Pulis has been to an FA cup final (against a City team who actually cared) and has actually kept Stoke up.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Pulis also has a net spend of nearly £100m

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

In irrelevant news, Steven N'Zonzi is named Stoke's Young Player of the Year.

At the age of 24

[Guest]

Talking of Stoke Pulis' popularity realty has hit an all time low.

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/213089/pulis-peter-coates-step

[Ent]

And maybe all this bluster can stop about Martinez. His team are in an annual relegation scrap yet he is lauded as some sort of genius. He'll hopefully find his level in the championship.

Yeah he only led them to the FA Cup and Europe this season, how bad must he be...

He took them down. And they have been in numerous scraps when he is in charge. It's laughable.

Small club with poor attendances, loses his best players every year, gets bargain bin replacements, plays good football, gets good wins etc

It is easy to see why he is rated highly.

You just don't like Wigan because of mcmanamans tackle.

[Gregers]

And maybe all this bluster can stop about Martinez. His team are in an annual relegation scrap yet he is lauded as some sort of genius. He'll hopefully find his level in the championship.

Yeah he only led them to the FA Cup and Europe this season, how bad must he be...

He took them down. And they have been in numerous scraps when he is in charge. It's laughable.

Small club with poor attendances, loses his best players every year, gets bargain bin replacements, plays good football, gets good wins etc

It is easy to see why he is rated highly.

You just don't like Wigan because of mcmanamans tackle.

Couldn't have said it better

[NickisBHAFC]

I think Wigan will do a Blackpool and just remain in the Championship and become an established Championship which is ok given the size of there football club. They didn't disgrace themselves tonight, just Arsenal had that extra class. Theo Walcott was superb. However i can still see Tottenham getting 4th. (I hope)

Martinez should 100% leave Wigan, he is too good for them. He should take the Everton job.

Be intresting to see who leaves Wigan next season. But i can't see them getting promoted, or even making the play offs next season for that matter.

[The Special Juan]

I think Pulis and Stoke should part ways amicably before it gets sour. He's taken them a heck of a long way but can they go further under him? I really don't think so.

[NickisBHAFC]

Pardew and Newcastle should also part ways, but can they afford to?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I think Pardew earnt himself a little more time with his efforts last season.

Pulis had promised a development in the style of play this year, but as soon as it begun to go slightly wrong, they've just reverted back to type. I think the Stoke fans are simply fed up (and why wouldn't you be tbf), and as TSJ says a split could be for the best

[GSC]

I don't get why Arsenal seem to be so rooted against.

Aren't reliant on a sugar daddy, bring through youth.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Been thinking about the question Wigan fans have been asked, about whether they'd swap the cup win for survival.

I personally would take a cup win, over survival in the league. Obviously both would be cool, but ultimately you don't get remembered for finishing 15th every year, and I imagine nothing beats the day out at Wembley, especially if you win.

Just a shame Norwich lose to non league sides in the cup really

[GSC]

Yeah, I imagine Pompy fans would pick the same Olly.

1 day is nice, but not dropping into oblivion is nicer. Forest were almost there 12 months ago.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Pompy's a fairly extreme case, hardly the norm.

[NickisBHAFC]

Just a shame Norwich lose to non league sides in the cup really

Yeah tbf that is way more embarrassing than any play off defeat or relegation for any side this season.

Losing to a mid table non league side

[GSC]

Sides who win a cup and get relegated in the near future are hardly rampant.

Birmingham are now in midtable Championship oblivion.

[NickisBHAFC]

They pay very high wages GSC, isnt' Zigic on like 60 grand a week?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

To be fair in December/January we were playing like a non league side.

[GSC]

He is indeed. And they're broke.

The feel good stories like Norwich and Southampton escaping oblivion are all well and good, but for most clubs topping off like Derby and Middlesborough is best case scenario.

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