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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:34 am

8-1

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:39 am

9-1

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:40 am

I think floyd may have hurt his right hand, not throwing it as often and Floyd Sr said "just use your left"

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:42 am

10-1, maybe I was a bit early to read anything into him not throwing the right as he did in the last minute there with some force

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 05 May 2013, 5:48 am

Where are you TRUSS

Thought Mayweather bit off a bit more then he could chew huh?

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 5:48 am

118-110 and that may be generous to Guerrero.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:48 am

119-109 Floyd, easy night for floyd and nothing less than I expected

He has taken no damage throughout his career so isn't going to age like normal fighters

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117-111 (x3) for Floyd

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 5:50 am

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:119-109 Floyd, easy night for floyd and nothing less than I expected

He has taken no damage throughout his career so isn't going to age like normal fighters

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117-111 (x3) for Floyd

Floyd has lost his power, He landed so many right punches but none of them even moved Guerrero.

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Post by joeyjojo618 Sun 05 May 2013, 5:52 am

Guerrero is pretty tough though, I dont think many people were expecting him to be knocked down tonight. Mayweather had enough power to discourage him.

Impressive performance. I thought Floyds prison stint might have taken something out of him, but I guess not.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 05 May 2013, 5:52 am

Hurt right hand but still came through this.

Different class

Where are ya TRUSS

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:53 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:119-109 Floyd, easy night for floyd and nothing less than I expected

He has taken no damage throughout his career so isn't going to age like normal fighters

Official scores

117-111 (x3) for Floyd

Floyd has lost his power, He landed so many right punches but none of them even moved Guerrero.

Lost his power? What power. He has never been a heavy hitter since he's moved up. Aydin and Berto are 2 big strong punching natural welterweights and neither really hurt guerrero despite them landing clean shots throughout

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 05 May 2013, 5:55 am

your wrong WHU

Why could;nt Guarrero rush Floyd like he did Berto?

because Floyd is stronger then we think.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 5:56 am

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:119-109 Floyd, easy night for floyd and nothing less than I expected

He has taken no damage throughout his career so isn't going to age like normal fighters

Official scores

117-111 (x3) for Floyd

Floyd has lost his power, He landed so many right punches but none of them even moved Guerrero.

Lost his power? What power. He has never been a heavy hitter since he's moved up. Aydin and Berto are 2 big strong punching natural welterweights and neither really hurt guerrero despite them landing clean shots throughout

Berto mnmashed up Guerrero's face. Floyd did barely any damage apart from a small cut and he landed so many clean punches Guerrero looked like the punches didnt really hurt him.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 05 May 2013, 5:56 am

You could hear him end f round 8 state his right hand is hurt and so he was advised to use just his left.

One handed mayweather just handed a beat down.

Had he not hurt his hand end of round 8 he would have stopped him.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 5:57 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:your wrong WHU

Why could;nt Guarrero rush Floyd like he did Berto?

because Floyd is stronger then we think.

EASY BREAD

WHERE ARE YA TRUSS

Looks a little childish you calling out truss

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 05 May 2013, 5:58 am

How is that a call out plumb

TRUSS sided with the Ghost and got it wrong.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 5:58 am

mobilemaster8 wrote:You could hear him end f round 8 state his right hand is hurt and so he was advised to use just his left.

One handed mayweather just handed a beat down.

Had he not hurt his hand end of round 8 he would have stopped him.

lol cos guerrero looked so hurt in rounds 1-8.

Face it Floyd can only win by UD these days because he has no power. His last real KO was back in 2007.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 05 May 2013, 5:59 am

mobilemaster8 wrote:You could hear him end f round 8 state his right hand is hurt and so he was advised to use just his left.

One handed mayweather just handed a beat down.

Had he not hurt his hand end of round 8 he would have stopped him.

No diggady

No doubt.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 5:59 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:How is that a call out plumb

TRUSS sided with the Ghost and got it wrong.

Who cares if he got it wrong

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 05 May 2013, 6:00 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:You could hear him end f round 8 state his right hand is hurt and so he was advised to use just his left.

One handed mayweather just handed a beat down.

Had he not hurt his hand end of round 8 he would have stopped him.

lol cos guerrero looked so hurt in rounds 1-8.

Face it Floyd can only win by UD these days because he has no power. His last real KO was back in 2007.

Floyd switched to straight right to the body which clearly hurt Robert

so what are you on about. Had he not hurt his hand I feel he would have stopped him.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 6:01 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:You could hear him end f round 8 state his right hand is hurt and so he was advised to use just his left.

One handed mayweather just handed a beat down.

Had he not hurt his hand end of round 8 he would have stopped him.

lol cos guerrero looked so hurt in rounds 1-8.

Face it Floyd can only win by UD these days because he has no power. His last real KO was back in 2007.

Floyd switched to straight right to the body which clearly hurt Robert

so what are you on about. Had he not hurt his hand I feel he would have stopped him.

Stop posting nonsense, Guerrero was walking through Floyds shots like they were nothing.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:03 am

Floyds legs clearly haven't gone, moved as well as I've seen him move. Had it 119-109, Guerrero had the second but Floyd was on point, pure domination.

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Post by joeyjojo618 Sun 05 May 2013, 6:05 am

He did look good tonight, Im going to go back and watch the cotto fight again sometime this week. Im scratching my head about that one now.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:05 am

I dont think Floyd would have stopped him, but Guerrero has a very good chin, but its clear Floyd has never been a big puncher since moving to 147.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 6:06 am

When will Flod fight next? if he waits another year then at 37 and after a year out the ring rust and father time must surely come into play.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:06 am

joeyjojo618 wrote:He did look good tonight, Im going to go back and watch the cotto fight again sometime this week. Im scratching my head about that one now.

You do get the sense now that Floyd chose to tough it out with Cotto more and more dont you?

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 6:07 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:119-109 Floyd, easy night for floyd and nothing less than I expected

He has taken no damage throughout his career so isn't going to age like normal fighters

Official scores

117-111 (x3) for Floyd

Floyd has lost his power, He landed so many right punches but none of them even moved Guerrero.

Lost his power? What power. He has never been a heavy hitter since he's moved up. Aydin and Berto are 2 big strong punching natural welterweights and neither really hurt guerrero despite them landing clean shots throughout

Berto mnmashed up Guerrero's face. Floyd did barely any damage apart from a small cut and he landed so many clean punches Guerrero looked like the punches didnt really hurt him.

You are wrong, Guerrero's face was just as damaged as it was against Berto and Berto never had him in trouble like Floyd did in the 8th. Floyd hits as hard as he did back in 2007 which is mediocre for a welterweight, but that doesn't mean he's lost any power. If you think he has then you haven't seen a lot of mayweather fights

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:08 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:When will Flod fight next? if he waits another year then at 37 and after a year out the ring rust and father time must surely come into play.

September he said, the date is already lined up apparently, just needs an opponent. Hoping Canelo...

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:09 am

What do you reckon to Floyds legs WHU? Seemed to look perfect still.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 6:11 am

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:119-109 Floyd, easy night for floyd and nothing less than I expected

He has taken no damage throughout his career so isn't going to age like normal fighters

Official scores

117-111 (x3) for Floyd

Floyd has lost his power, He landed so many right punches but none of them even moved Guerrero.

Lost his power? What power. He has never been a heavy hitter since he's moved up. Aydin and Berto are 2 big strong punching natural welterweights and neither really hurt guerrero despite them landing clean shots throughout

Berto mnmashed up Guerrero's face. Floyd did barely any damage apart from a small cut and he landed so many clean punches Guerrero looked like the punches didnt really hurt him.

You are wrong, Guerrero's face was just as damaged as it was against Berto and Berto never had him in trouble like Floyd did in the 8th. Floyd hits as hard as he did back in 2007 which is mediocre for a welterweight, but that doesn't mean he's lost any power. If you think he has then you haven't seen a lot of mayweather fights

You are talking nonsense. Go and look at Guerreros face after the Berto fight and then look at Guerreros face after the floyd fight. Floyd did barely any damage.
Berto destroyed guerreros face.

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Post by azania Sun 05 May 2013, 6:13 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:What do you reckon to Floyds legs WHU? Seemed to look perfect still.

See you at the Oyster kiss

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 6:14 am

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:119-109 Floyd, easy night for floyd and nothing less than I expected

He has taken no damage throughout his career so isn't going to age like normal fighters

Official scores

117-111 (x3) for Floyd

Floyd has lost his power, He landed so many right punches but none of them even moved Guerrero.

Lost his power? What power. He has never been a heavy hitter since he's moved up. Aydin and Berto are 2 big strong punching natural welterweights and neither really hurt guerrero despite them landing clean shots throughout

Berto mnmashed up Guerrero's face. Floyd did barely any damage apart from a small cut and he landed so many clean punches Guerrero looked like the punches didnt really hurt him.

You are wrong, Guerrero's face was just as damaged as it was against Berto and Berto never had him in trouble like Floyd did in the 8th. Floyd hits as hard as he did back in 2007 which is mediocre for a welterweight, but that doesn't mean he's lost any power. If you think he has then you haven't seen a lot of mayweather fights

Wrong, floyd is a light hitter now which is why he has not KO'd anyone properly since 2007.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:14 am

http://www.thesweetscience.com/images/stories/boxing/GuerreroBerto_Hogan57.jpg

Maybe a tad worse against Berto, but pretty much the same.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 6:15 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:When will Flod fight next? if he waits another year then at 37 and after a year out the ring rust and father time must surely come into play.

September he said, the date is already lined up apparently, just needs an opponent. Hoping Canelo...

Canelo will win.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:15 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:119-109 Floyd, easy night for floyd and nothing less than I expected

He has taken no damage throughout his career so isn't going to age like normal fighters

Official scores

117-111 (x3) for Floyd

Floyd has lost his power, He landed so many right punches but none of them even moved Guerrero.

Lost his power? What power. He has never been a heavy hitter since he's moved up. Aydin and Berto are 2 big strong punching natural welterweights and neither really hurt guerrero despite them landing clean shots throughout

Berto mnmashed up Guerrero's face. Floyd did barely any damage apart from a small cut and he landed so many clean punches Guerrero looked like the punches didnt really hurt him.

You are wrong, Guerrero's face was just as damaged as it was against Berto and Berto never had him in trouble like Floyd did in the 8th. Floyd hits as hard as he did back in 2007 which is mediocre for a welterweight, but that doesn't mean he's lost any power. If you think he has then you haven't seen a lot of mayweather fights

Wrong, floyd is a light hitter now which is why he has not KO'd anyone properly since 2007.

Floyds never been a hitter at WW...

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:17 am

azania wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:What do you reckon to Floyds legs WHU? Seemed to look perfect still.

See you at the Oyster kiss

Thought I saw you there... Were you the bloke ripping up Marciano posters in the corner?

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 05 May 2013, 6:21 am

Khan V guerrero in December?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 6:25 am

Would be an interesting one Champagne. Be suprised if Khan took it, mind.

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Post by azania Sun 05 May 2013, 8:17 am

Khan will take it. Career high payday for a safe fight. Mad not to.

Safe in the knowledge that he will lose but his career enhanced depending on his performance.

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Post by kingraf Sun 05 May 2013, 9:02 am

Its when Floyd admits he took the Guerrero fight because Guerrero was an easier night than Cotto that I get irritated. Of course it was a brilliant perfomance, but The Pretty Boy is an all-time great coming up a modern pound-for-pounder.

Whats more irritating is that people will say he doesnt need to fight tough fights anymore. This of course is an indictement on the state of boxing today, and why it really cant be taken seriously anymore. Imagine Rafa Nadal choosing to face Andy Roddick for a Roland Garros final (different sports, but that gives you an idea of how ridiculous the current state is)

I know Guerrero is a mandatory, but when you declined fighting your mandatory for four years, I dont quite believe he picked The Ghost just because he is mandatory.

Nothing against Floyd, its more the state the sport is in right now.
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Post by Diamond in the rough Sun 05 May 2013, 9:36 am

kingraf wrote:Its when Floyd admits he took the Guerrero fight because Guerrero was an easier night than Cotto that I get irritated. Of course it was a brilliant perfomance, but The Pretty Boy is an all-time great coming up a modern pound-for-pounder.

Whats more irritating is that people will say he doesnt need to fight tough fights anymore. This of course is an indictement on the state of boxing today, and why it really cant be taken seriously anymore. Imagine Rafa Nadal choosing to face Andy Roddick for a Roland Garros final (different sports, but that gives you an idea of how ridiculous the current state is)

I know Guerrero is a mandatory, but when you declined fighting your mandatory for four years, I dont quite believe he picked The Ghost just because he is mandatory.

Nothing against Floyd, its more the state the sport is in right now.


This was literally the hardest fight he could've taken! Only other person is pacquiao who lost his last 2 fights! And as of differnt networks and TR being ridiculous some fights will just never be made! Boxing needs a billionaire to take over and make it similar to UFC

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Post by kingraf Sun 05 May 2013, 9:41 am

So Guerrero > Canelo?
Guerrero > Martinez, who is willing to go to 154? (well, probably now, but no one knew that when fights were being negotiated).
Guerrero beat a doper on a losing streak to get this fight. Hardly going through (an old) Sugar Shane, and Austing Trout. Mayweather himself admitted he took an easier fight,are you seriously going to claim it was the toughest fight he could take?
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Post by Diamond in the rough Sun 05 May 2013, 9:59 am

At welterweight yes! Should Marquez move up to LMW aswell since he just beat pacman

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Post by Diamond in the rough Sun 05 May 2013, 10:01 am

Also mayweather would beat alverez pretty easy he is to fast

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Post by azania Sun 05 May 2013, 10:04 am

As I figured. Floyd wins and the muppets asking why he didn't fight Saul and Martinez. Errr they both fought recently. Also if Martinez wants to come down to 154 why not fight Saul?

Is Ward next?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 05 May 2013, 10:12 am

Guerrero was 8 in the Ring p4p list................

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Post by kingraf Sun 05 May 2013, 10:12 am

Azania you must be stupid. Ever heard of NEGOTIATIONS? Alvarez last fight before Trout was Sept. Trout only beat Cotto in Dec. If he really wanted Saul, he would have put up an offer, especially for Cinco de Mayo.

Mayweather himself admitted he took an easier fight. Is the concept really that hard to fathom? So you dont want the best to face the best? Its that head in sand approach that frustrates me. Nothing against Floyd for taking an easier fight, I would do the same if the money was better. Its on the market to demand you take better fights. Obviously you guys are happy with Floyd half-as.sing his way to $200 million. Cant criticize a man if he is giving the people what they want.
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Post by kingraf Sun 05 May 2013, 10:20 am

Number one and two on the Ring pfp have fought twice in the last 12 months.
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Post by azania Sun 05 May 2013, 10:22 am

The Saul fight will happen. He is being built up. Prior to trout his best win was Rhodes. People (you) would have moaned if he fought Saul and not trout or martinez.

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