Fight Thread For This Weekends Action: Vlad, De Leon, Mares, Santa Cruz... Oh, and Mayweather vs The Ghost

by davidemore Sat 04 May 2013, 3:54 pm

First topic message reminder :

SOMEBODY, PLEASE LEAVE A YOUTUBE LINK TO THE FIGHT ON HERE AS SOON AS ONE POPS UP AND PM ME WITH IT TOO. I WILL BE WATCHING THE FIGHT SUNDAY MORNING

So, one big thread for all: predictions, live chat, reaction and banter.

Let's GET READY!

#Boxing boxing

by bellchees Sat 04 May 2013, 10:29 pm

This ones almost over, more convinced than ever though that Wlad wouldn't see half way against Tyson.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 04 May 2013, 10:34 pm

bellchees wrote:This ones almost over, more convinced than ever though that Wlad wouldn't see half way against Tyson.

based on this fight? remember Wlad is 37 now so he is past his prime.

Wlad looks uninterested in this fight tho and just looks like he is taking it easy.

by bellchees Sat 04 May 2013, 10:40 pm

I know he barely got out of 2nd gear but he still looked awkward going backwards and trying to hit a moving target like Tyson is a bit harder than landing on a pretty static Pianeta, especially as he would have to be so wary of Tyson's speed and power, just a stylistic nightmare for him. Also he likes to spoil on the inside which he would have a harder time with against Tyson as he was rough as you like up close.

by davidemore Sat 04 May 2013, 10:42 pm

That guy was nowhere near world class. He had spirit and a good windmill. That was all.

by **hampo17** Sat 04 May 2013, 10:50 pm

Compubox had the punch stats 116-24 in favour of Wlad. Seriously?

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 04 May 2013, 10:50 pm

bellchees wrote:I know he barely got out of 2nd gear but he still looked awkward going backwards and trying to hit a moving target like Tyson is a bit harder than landing on a pretty static Pianeta, especially as he would have to be so wary of Tyson's speed and power, just a stylistic nightmare for him. Also he likes to spoil on the inside which he would have a harder time with against Tyson as he was rough as you like up close.

You can't judge Klitschko based on that fight. He was in 4th gear yet he knocked the guy down 2 times and then knocked him out in the 5th round. Wlad also looked uninterested and it looked like a sparring session.

I think the Wlad v haye or v chagaev in 2009 was Wlad in his prime and what we should judge him on.

by milkyboy Sat 04 May 2013, 10:53 pm

bellchees wrote:I know he barely got out of 2nd gear but he still looked awkward going backwards and trying to hit a moving target like Tyson is a bit harder than landing on a pretty static Pianeta, especially as he would have to be so wary of Tyson's speed and power, just a stylistic nightmare for him. Also he likes to spoil on the inside which he would have a harder time with against Tyson as he was rough as you like up close.

Totally agree belchees, fury would kill him

by davidemore Sat 04 May 2013, 10:54 pm

Probably good stats. Rubbish fight. A spar.

by manos de piedra Sat 04 May 2013, 11:01 pm

Those fights bring out the worst of the Klitschkos I think. That was awful. The fight was an obvious mismatch but it was so unneccessarily one paced by Wlad. No work to the body. Little punch variation, even just content to use the jab as a range finder. The first time he threw a 3 punch combo he finished the fight. He could have done what he did to Pianeta in the 6th at any time and finished it.

Its been mentioned before that the Klitschkos drag out fights in order to make more money and when you see that kind of fight in particular its easy to believe. There were it times it felt like Wlad was actually letting the poor guy recover just to tee off on him again. Even the right hands and jabs he threw were on half paced so as not to end the guy too early.

by BoxingFan88 Sat 04 May 2013, 11:29 pm

manos de piedra wrote:Those fights bring out the worst of the Klitschkos I think. That was awful. The fight was an obvious mismatch but it was so unneccessarily one paced by Wlad. No work to the body. Little punch variation, even just content to use the jab as a range finder. The first time he threw a 3 punch combo he finished the fight. He could have done what he did to Pianeta in the 6th at any time and finished it.

Its been mentioned before that the Klitschkos drag out fights in order to make more money and when you see that kind of fight in particular its easy to believe. There were it times it felt like Wlad was actually letting the poor guy recover just to tee off on him again. Even the right hands and jabs he threw were on half paced so as not to end the guy too early.

To be fair Manos, I think Klitchsko threw 2 body shots...

by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 May 2013, 12:40 am

When does Wlad throw combos and body shots lol

by mobilemaster8 Sun 05 May 2013, 3:00 am

What's classed as EKO on the predictor? Rounds 1-6?

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 3:12 am

Evening all. Love watching Santa Cruz.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 3:36 am

Impressive from Santa Cruz, the man is a conveyor belt of punches and throws them nice and sharp throughout and will improve as he gets more experianced

He's a nice guy and has a lot to learn, like how he scarifices power for volume, but he will put bums on seats and is easy to like so will have a good future ahead if him

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 3:51 am

Was Santa Cruz the IBF Bantamweight champ? If so, I don't fancy Frampton's chances if the both go for that.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 3:52 am

He was, McDonnel is fighting for his vacated belt

De Leon-Mares now, should be fun

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 4:06 am

Not a massive Mares fan. He's just very limited for me. He's bossing this fight, but loses handily to Donaire and Rigo for me. Wouldn't bet against Santa Cruz or Frampton either.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 4:16 am

Mares started well but round by round it seems that his punches are making less and less of an impression on De Leon and that De Leon's natural strength and power seems to be coming through. Mares is having to box more and more and that's not his game

by mobilemaster8 Sun 05 May 2013, 4:18 am

Evening 6olden!

Mares to win UD santa Cruz looked great.

Mayweather to KO the ghost late on.

Should be fun

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 4:23 am

Excited for this fight, as a relative boxing newbie it will be the first time seeing PBF live, if he's half as good as Truss says it should be a privilage.

Mares and De Leon isn't bad either

by mobilemaster8 Sun 05 May 2013, 4:26 am

If you had watched him live against corrales, Gatti, hatton or Ortiz you would have been in awe.

Epic talent and skill.

Hopefully we see the same within the next half hour

by mobilemaster8 Sun 05 May 2013, 4:28 am

Damn. I predicted UD.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 4:33 am

Good win for Mares, surprised me as it had Mares UD all over it

The big one up next, hopefully I can get one fight bang on so a floyd UD suits me

by mobilemaster8 Sun 05 May 2013, 4:48 am

I put LKO for floyd.....

Got the Klitshcko one bang on wild card.

Come on floyd!

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 4:50 am

Guerrero is naturally too small. Should be a competitive fight for the first few rounds.

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 4:51 am

Who is that man making noise beside Mayweather?

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 4:52 am

Had Wlad by LKO, Rosado by SD (think he deserved it imo), Santa Cruz by LKO, Mares by UD and Floyd by UD

by mobilemaster8 Sun 05 May 2013, 4:55 am

Wlad was EKO was it?

I had mares UD can't remember my Cruz prediction.

Should find out how bad I have done in next few days!!!

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 4:56 am

Not sure what the result will be, but I've got to be up at 7.30, so a part of me is hoping for a middle KO

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 4:58 am

It's got a decision written all over it, Gregory.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:02 am

Good first round for Floyd, landing the straight right early and a couple left hooks

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 5:03 am

1 nil Mayweather.

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 5:07 am

2-0 Mayweather.

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 5:07 am

Id say Guerrero just nicked that last round

1-1

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:07 am

2-0 Floyd, right hand won it on the bell

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 5:10 am

2-1 Mayweather

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:11 am

3-0 Floyd, right hands are landing regularly

Guerrero needs to up the pace as Cotto and Hatton put more pressure on floyd than guerrero has

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 5:14 am

3-1 Floyd, amazing defence

by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Sun 05 May 2013, 5:14 am

3-1 floyd

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:15 am

4-0, Guerrero looking a little flustered already

This is when Floyd faded agaisnt Cotto though

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:18 am

5-0

Only close one was the 2nd, all the others have been easy

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 5:19 am

4-1 Floyd, he needs to do something about the straight right

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 5:22 am

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:23 am

Better round for Robert but still a floyd round, 6-0

by 6oldenbhoy Sun 05 May 2013, 5:23 am

6-0. Different class.

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 5:26 am

5-2, is the comeback on? :P

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:27 am

6-1, Guerrero round as he managed to work on the inside and outwork floyd

by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 May 2013, 5:30 am

by mobilemaster8 Sun 05 May 2013, 5:30 am

This really is classy to be honest. Guerrero is in way out of his league by a hell of a lot.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 05 May 2013, 5:31 am

7-1 huge floyd round

Guerrero is getting broken down, surgical from floyd. Rights to the body and the head. He's slowing down a lot and looks disheartened

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