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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 10 May 2013, 1:27 pm

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Breaking News: Tigers play Harlequins in the play off final at Twickenham.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 May 2013, 4:47 pm

Foden was poor against Quins, his defence is really bad

He is our best full back on form 100%, he's not been on form for 2 seasons now.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 25 May 2013, 4:48 pm

Delon is our best full back on form 100% Wink
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 May 2013, 4:50 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Delon is our best full back on form 100% Wink

Lol, Delon is playing much better than Foden currently. Foden just looks so fragile in defence, he was always a rock pre injury.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 25 May 2013, 4:51 pm

Think Delon could wave goodbye to being out best full back Pete...

Saints really have to do a lot to get a penalty off Barnes today!

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Post by Fluxy Sat 25 May 2013, 4:55 pm

Oh he won't be the England fullback again, unless desperate.

But he is playing a lot better than Foden at the minute.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 25 May 2013, 5:17 pm

Cockerill is a t wat.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 May 2013, 6:08 pm

Agreed Flux, so is Brown. Really unsure on Foden

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Post by CJB Sat 25 May 2013, 6:25 pm

1. Healy
2. Mealamu
3. Kubs
4. Kitch/Romano
5. Whitlock
6. Haskell
7. Pocock
8. Lobbe
9. Smith
10. Hodgson
11. North
12. Allen
13. Davies/Horne
14. Jane/Nalaga
15. Hogg/Miller

Where to work on lads

Off out so will predo either when I get home or tomorrow

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 May 2013, 7:28 pm

Looks like Hartley will miss the Lions tour then, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. What a 100% throbber

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Post by Fluxy Sat 25 May 2013, 9:27 pm

So that's Best surely, and rightly back in contention? Or perhaps Ford?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 10:34 am

Really looking forward to the Baa Baas game this afternoon. Could be a real classic.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 26 May 2013, 10:52 am

Could be a few tries in the back threes Pete!

1pm kick off isnt it?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 26 May 2013, 11:29 am

Not much to improve with your 1st string CJB, the main issue with your squad lies with the depth element I think. Injuries or international call ups tend to hurt you more than others.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 May 2013, 12:11 pm

Big chance for JJ, hope he clicks with Twelvetrees. They could form a cracking combo.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 12:13 pm

JJ is one of 2 players in the England team who I feel are very lucky to be starting this game.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 May 2013, 12:24 pm

I'm taking the other is TJ?

Agree Pete but the cupboard is bare at 13, maybe getting back in Int scene will ignite a bit of form.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 12:30 pm

Yeah, TJ. Big fan of his, and he was in good form before injury, but since coming back he struggled to get his Chiefs jersey back.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 May 2013, 12:36 pm

He's not good enough for England imo, good player on form tho

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 1:04 pm

IMO he can do a job for England, but we're not going to win a world cup with him as our blindside. I actually think, the way he plays he is better suited to playing openside.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 May 2013, 1:05 pm

I just think he's not physical enough.

Good start Burns, Ba's defence looking top notch! Lol

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 1:08 pm

Baa Baa's defence pretty standard for them. I'm going with 53-29 scoreline here!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 1:33 pm

Scratch that, I'm going 28-0. This is a dull encounter.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 May 2013, 1:34 pm

Only a friendly but plenty of positives so far.

Attwood, Webber, Brown doing themselves no harm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 May 2013, 1:36 pm

Harinordoquy carrying on with his club form, I think it's safe to say his best years are behind him!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 1:38 pm

It's really difficult to judge the England lads performances though, given that the Baa Baas look half asleep.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 26 May 2013, 1:43 pm

Do England need to change there opposition for this fixture?

Maybe it could be a Premiership exiles team? Or probables v possibles perhaps even better.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 1:45 pm

I think whoever they play, if it's not another full international side, there is the danger of this sort of game. What I want to see from England is them upping the ante second half and really going for it. At the moment we have not done enough to put tries on what is a poorly performing Barbarians team.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 26 May 2013, 1:48 pm

BaaBaas started to get into it a bit more towards the end, just so many basic errors - on paper not an overly bad team.

Is a shame that the likes of Parisse have only just joined the squad today.

Just wish we could work the space a bit better and get Wade into some space, work through some phases too!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 26 May 2013, 1:58 pm

Hartley banned for 11 weeks.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 2:05 pm

Davey Wilson got gas!!!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 26 May 2013, 2:21 pm

Not seen a thing wrong with Burns' defence today.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 2:28 pm

He's defended pretty well Steve.

Really pleased that Yarde and Wade have got tries today. I know it's only the Baa Baa's, and there will be more difficult tests ahead, but these two in my opinion have the ability and potential to be England's first choice wingers at RWC 2015.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 26 May 2013, 2:33 pm

Never really seen an issue with Burns' defence Steve, got to start him in the future with Twelvetrees with their club understanding.

We've got the makings of a very good team, Corbs and Morgan would have made a huge difference in the 6Nations.

Shame Daly isnt going on the England tour though, he's had a good game today.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 2:35 pm

Great to see Corbs back. England missed him massively in the 6 Nations.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 26 May 2013, 2:44 pm

Reckon Daly should probably jump on England's plane.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 2:44 pm

He's had a good game.
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Post by Fluxy Sun 26 May 2013, 2:46 pm

Great try by him then

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 May 2013, 3:51 pm

Burns has the worst defensive stats of any 10 in prem, make awful reading.

Held up well today although hardly a game to know if he's up to it

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 5:10 pm

Right, I'm after a NH loosehead, hooker, enforcer lock number 8 if anyone is dealing.
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Post by Fluxy Sun 26 May 2013, 5:32 pm

I could provide something...

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 5:38 pm

Let's talk.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 5:45 pm

Next season rules.

Squads are to be updated within the new parameters by 7th June.


Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.


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Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1991.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.


Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Structured Window

    No cash will be used and each team will get effectively free transfers by way of a draft, which will run 12th, 11th, 10th …… 1st, 12th, 11th,10th… 1st place side. There will be 2 rounds. This will run from 14th June 2013 until all teams have had their picks.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    Prior to the foreign transfer windows opening, there will be a draft of released players for the 12th 11th and 10th placed teams. This will start on 2nd June 2013.



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Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Saturday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. If you are not providing a descriptive prediction you will be restricted to predicting a 1 point win either way.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

Let me know any tweaks that people think there need to be.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 5:59 pm

Do people want a summer tournament this year or not?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 26 May 2013, 6:03 pm

Rules look fine. Summer tournament a yes for me, but maybe not so many games this time!

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Post by stnick88 Sun 26 May 2013, 6:04 pm

Agree

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 26 May 2013, 6:05 pm

So 4 pools of 4 (use 4 outside teams) - no home and away, so 3 pool stage games, then semi final and final, so 5 games in total?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 26 May 2013, 6:07 pm

That would work I think.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 26 May 2013, 7:42 pm

Pete only issues I would have with the rules are with academy - agree with the 20 limit, but don't think that you should have to bid on your own player to bring him into your set up if you have space.

E.g. a lot of the clubs at the bottom of the table don't have as much money as the top clubs so if a guy like Jack Nowell emerges and a team at the bottom could bring him into their academy but only has a couple of million and then I come along and outbid them then it improves my academy.

Would also set 'x' amount compensation as a minimum to give to clubs who lose an academy player, say £3-4million.

When do foreigns open? Wanting to get a couple of bids in before I start dealing!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 May 2013, 7:59 pm

I like that academy rule Pete, might steal it for the other games.

Gives the teams with weaker academies the chance to nab some talent.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 26 May 2013, 9:21 pm

Pete - got a new homepage for my team here, was getting quite close to the posts limit.

https://www.606v2.com/t44510-northampton-saints-squad-fantasy-rugby-2013-14#2079776

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