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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri May 10, 2013 1:27 pm

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Breaking News: Tigers play Harlequins in the play off final at Twickenham.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
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12 Homepage - Page 12 6London Wasps 2230 19 444 569 -125 40 64 0 14 26






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:30 pm

Fair play to Billy, he got over but it looked comical.

Scrum certainly didn't look weak, although hard to tell from clips.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:48 pm

Don't recognise any Sale players.

Juan Socino is at Rotherham and widely considered to be one of the best championship players over the last few years.

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Post by DHLS07 Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:54 pm

Decent wins for England and the Lions. Winning is a habit.

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:52 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8756618,00.html


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:38 pm

Burger & Smith in same year is so sad

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:08 am

Looks likely although not confirmed.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:36 am

PR Jean-Baptiste Poux (LH/TH) [FRA]
PR Grant Shiells (LH) [SCO]
BR Jerome Kaino (BS) [NZL]
SH Julien Dupuy [FRA]

Anyone interested in these? Going to release them around lunch time.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:00 am

What's the deal with Kaino? Another year in Japan or more?

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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:15 am

one more year in japan.

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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:26 am

anyone got a link to lions game?

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:36 am

P.m sent fella
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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:39 am

cheers.

not great so far from what iv seen in the last 10.

Rory Best messed up 2 throws.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:40 am

Am I right in hearing a biting claim against healy?!
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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:42 am

didnt see that but heard something about a bite. didnt know who it was.

nice try BOD.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:49 am

Was that O'Brien stretchered off? Looked a bad one.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:50 am

Not sounding good for healy....knee or ankle.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:52 am

Oh was Healy! Watching the game through the window of the offices that overlooks a pub tv screen.

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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:57 am

by the looks of it, that could be end of healys tour.

Corbisiero could be in with a shout.

SOB, Tuilagi, BOD, North looking good.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:59 am

Or Grant...he is already in s.a with scotland. Looking forward to watching this later
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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:00 pm

I do like how Gatland sets his teams up, very hard to stop when they get going forward. It is just such a shame that the Aussie teams seem keen to put out weakened teams.

If Healy gets injured isn't the two Scottish props on stand by - Grant and Murray?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:00 pm

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Bryan Habana, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Replacements: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Arno Botha, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jan Serfontein.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:03 pm

Good 2nd half.

Heaslip, SOB, North, Mako were excellent. Some positions starting to get nailed down.

Halfpenny great game with the boot, nailed them from everywhere, him and Sexton will be 10/15 I reckon.

Youngs, Faletau great off bench and Farrell good try.

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:07 pm

If Mako can sort out his wobbles in the scrum and get a bit more fitness, he would be a world beater!

Already seen the SA side, but interesting that they've selected two LH's, I know Coenie covers the otherside, but surprised there isn't a specalist TH in there.

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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:13 pm

If I had to pick a side based on those 2 games...

1 Vunipola
2 Hibbard
3 Jones
4 O'Connell
5 Parling
6 O'Brien
7 Tipuric
8 Heaslip
9 Phillips
10 Sexton
11 North
12 Tuilagi
13 O'Driscoll
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15 Halfpenny

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:00 pm

Glad Healy is injured if he has bitten that chap. Healy has a real attitude problem.

Good performance against a farce team. Can read anything in to it. Good back row balance in face of it

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:05 pm

Agree with that pretty much nick although think it will be a very different side.

Vunipola is great ball in hand

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:09 pm

Corbs called up, harsh on Grant!!
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:11 pm

Corbs a great shout for starting prop as he is best Lh around

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:21 pm

Serfontein straight onto the Boks bench. Excellent

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:23 pm

Top top player Steve

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:34 pm

Watching highlights, vunipola doing very well again....would you use him for impact though?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:43 pm

Corbs called up to Lions.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:13 pm

Good team nick, but Jamie Roberts was outstanding at the weekend. He for me starts at 12 if its played tomorrow.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:06 am

Fair shout Steve I just think Tuilagi is more of a threat.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:48 am

British & Irish Lions v Queensland Reds:

Hogg; Cuthbert, Tuilagi, Davies, Bowe; Farrell, B Youngs; Jenkins, T Youngs, Stevens, Gray, Parling, Lydiate, Warburton, Faletau. Replacements: Hibbard, Vunipola, A Jones, O'Connell, Tipuric, Murray, Sexton, North.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:00 am

Is that now everyone has had a start?

That one helluva bench....

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Post by stnick88 Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:10 am

yeh everyone will of started now.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:11 am

I like that midfield Drool

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:22 pm

ENGLAND TEAM

15 Mike Brown (Harlequins, 16 caps)
14 Christian Wade (Wasps, uncapped)
13 Jonathan Joseph (London Irish, 4 caps)
12 Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 4 caps)
11 David Strettle (Saracens, 13 caps)
10 Freddie Burns (Gloucester Rugby, 1 cap)
9 Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints, 7 caps)
1 Joe Marler (Harlequins, 10 caps)
2 Rob Webber (Bath Rugby, 3 caps)
3 David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 26 caps)
4 Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 9 caps)
5 Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby, 2 caps)
6 Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 18 caps, captain)
7 Matt Kvesic (Worcester Warriors, uncapped)
8 Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 10 caps)

Replacements
16 David Paice (London Irish, 6 caps)
17 Paul Doran Jones (Northampton Saints, 4 caps)
18 Henry Thomas (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
19 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 20 caps)
20 Billy Vunipola (London Wasps, uncapped)
21 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 12 caps)
22 Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
23 Ben Foden (Northampton Saints, 30 caps)

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:27 pm

Quite lucky that Argentina have rested all of their big names for the Rugby Championship!

Hope Wade shines, just need to find ways of getting him into space as there aren't many players that will catch him. Good to finally see a winger who has a bit of spark for England and that they didnt go for 2 fullbacks.

Burns could cement himself as the England 10 if he performs well in the next two games.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:36 pm

Big shot for Wade I do like him but not sure he'll make the step up tbh, Yarde looks more set up for Int rugby imo.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:42 pm

15. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 16 caps)
14. Christian Wade (Wasps, uncapped)
13. Jonathan Joseph (London Irish, 4 caps)
12. Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 4 caps)
11. David Strettle (Saracens, 13 caps)
10. Freddie Burns (Gloucester Rugby, 1 cap)
9. Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints, 7 caps)
1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 10 caps)
2. Rob Webber (Bath Rugby, 3 caps)
3. David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 26 caps)
4. Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 9 caps)
5. Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby, 2 caps)
6. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 18 caps, captain)
7. Matt Kvesic (Worcester Warriors, uncapped)
8. Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 10 caps)

Replacements

16. David Paice (London Irish, 6 caps)
17. Henry Thomas (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
18. Paul Doran Jones (Northampton Saints, 4 caps)
19. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 20 caps)
20. Billy Vunipola (London Wasps, uncapped)
21. Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 12 caps)
22. Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
23. Ben Foden (Northampton Saints, 30 caps)

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Post by stnick88 Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:49 pm

harsh on Yarde to not be included at all, thought he was one of the best players v Baa Baa's.

Decent side though, like the impact from the bench.


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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:05 pm

May seems to really have dropped off the Lancaster radar too.

I never thought much of Yarde, but changed my mind the last 3-4 games I've seen him play. Prefer what Wade can bring in terms of attack, as I don't think there is another winger in rugby that offers what he does, but put him up against Gear/Savea type winger and he could get a humping.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:12 pm

dammit_chris wrote:May seems to really have dropped off the Lancaster radar too.

I never thought much of Yarde, but changed my mind the last 3-4 games I've seen him play. Prefer what Wade can bring in terms of attack, as I don't think there is another winger in rugby that offers what he does, but put him up against Gear/Savea type winger and he could get a humping.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:56 am

I hope he does Mat, we are effectively playing an Argentina second team so should be able to beat them.

I'm not sure what we will get from not trying Yarde or May in an international, and as much as I rate Strettle, I don't see him as the answer to England's wing.

We need an in form Ashton back and I then someone who can spark our backline into life, like May or Wade. Add Foden in at 15 and we've suddenly got a very good backthree that can score a lot of tries.

Burns looks the answer at no10, especially with his kicking improving - then I guess it is just finding an answer to getting a midfield combination that works.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:27 am

When do foreigns open?

Really torn between Le Roux and Mogg at the minute.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:29 am

Big questions over Burns decision making at the top level, we'll be punished if he keeps trying these crazy long passes in our 22.

I like what Burns can bring on an attacking front but he needs levelling out.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:30 am

Whenever the draft finishes Luke. Squads are supposed to be sorted by today so it should kick off soon.

Ozzy3213 wrote:
SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:When will released players be free to bid on Pete? And when the bidding foreign window open? Assume the draft wil have to be completed first?

Plan is. Squads to be within limits, new academies settled by 7th June. Anyone not named in an academy then is fair game. Then Bidding for released players will open, as will the foreign draft window. 2 rounds of that and then the foreign free for all.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:31 am

When is the RFU back from Majorca?

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