2012/13 Premier League discussion thread. The Final Day and Off Season

by Guest Sun 19 May - 17:26

First topic message reminder :

Lets bring her home!

by Bull Mon 27 May - 18:18

Olly he sucks lol

by GSC Mon 27 May - 18:20

Until Wilbraham is inevitably released by Palace this summer

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 27 May - 20:35

Benitez to Napoli confirmed

Mourinho to be announced as Chelsea manager Sunday or Monday

by mystiroakey Mon 27 May - 21:57

Great day out.

But I feel like I have been on a 36 hour bender..I am shattered!!!

Wembley is a top stadium! I was right at the back on the 5th level but could see everything perfectly..

Good performance and I think we were the better team.. Even all the watford fans admitted it on the way home!

But they are not a real club. There fans did nothing. We must have been 10 times louder and created 100 times the atmosphere.

Its all about the passion. And that is why we won. There players, Zola and fans just turned up to there day job!!

Holloway was going nuts all game- zola did almost nothing!

There team looked a shadow of what they have before!

But It really still feels like an anti climax..

Thats the last time Zaha will play for us..

If we play this team without him in the prem we would be lucky to pick up 15 points!!

I hear we have 40 mill to spend on transfers this summer..

I hope we use it well.. WE NEED TO..

by NickisBHAFC Mon 27 May - 22:28

mystiroakey wrote:Great day out.

But I feel like I have been on a 36 hour bender..I am shattered!!!

Wembley is a top stadium! I was right at the back on the 5th level but could see everything perfectly..

Good performance and I think we were the better team.. Even all the watford fans admitted it on the way home!

But they are not a real club. There fans did nothing. We must have been 10 times louder and created 100 times the atmosphere.

Its all about the passion. And that is why we won. There players, Zola and fans just turned up to there day job!!

Holloway was going nuts all game- zola did almost nothing!

There team looked a shadow of what they have before!

But It really still feels like an anti climax..

Thats the last time Zaha will play for us..

If we play this team without him in the prem we would be lucky to pick up 15 points!!

I hear we have 40 mill to spend on transfers this summer..

I hope we use it well.. WE NEED TO..

tbh mate the whole atmosphere seemed very very dead and even the commentators stated this. But fair play hope you did enjoy your day out. Enjoy next season

by mystiroakey Mon 27 May - 22:39

wembley is a tough place to light up Nick!!

We did our bit.. Watford didnt

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 10:44

Ok MAN U fans..

Thoughts on Zaha.

Can we have him back on loan?

Or will you use him and not bench him!!(please loan him if you dont think he will be first team!!)

I am going to be honest. I am gutted that Fergie has gone. Because he would have sorted this boy out. Now he has gone.. Not so sure Man U is the best place for him.

Every Palace fan loves Wilf. We all do (many didnt before the Play offs, but he got us in the PL- so we are all so thankfull!)

So we all want to see him do well..

I want him to be an England star and tbh he is to good for Palace at the moment.!

I want him getting CL games etc etc!

by The Special Juan Tue 28 May - 11:02

If one of Valencia, Nani or Young goes then Zaha will stay with Man Utd. If all those 3 remain then I imagine he will go back out on loan and probably to Palace. I wouldn't worry about him stagnating under Moyes as he's quite good with youth players.

by GSC Tue 28 May - 11:04

Tbh, Zaha needs to go to United now to develop properly. I wouldn't send him back to Palace now.

by Guest Tue 28 May - 11:18

Why place Zaha in a poor and most probably relegated EPL team. He'll become frustrated and try to hard to impress. Needs to go to United and begin to learn from better players and better coaching. Stagnate at Palace. He'd walk into the team past Valencia who offers nothing, Young is unpredictable and injury prone and Nani is probably leaving the through the exit door this summer. United badly need a central midfielder but I don't think Fellaini is the answer whatsoever, does not suit United in any way, shape or form.

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 11:21

The question is John. Possibly Stagnate at palace but at least get games..

Or stagnate and not get any games.

Or get in the first team at United

I want to see him play week in week out!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 28 May - 13:29

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
Roberto Martinez has told Wigan chairman Dave Whelan that he wishes to leave the club. More now on #ssn

by Stella Tue 28 May - 13:31

Olly wrote:Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
Roberto Martinez has told Wigan chairman Dave Whelan that he wishes to leave the club. More now on #ssn

Good. Hopefully Wigan, and more importantly Dave Whelan will be left to live life in the championship.

by The Special Juan Tue 28 May - 13:44

I hope we never hear from him again.

by Scott is Back Tue 28 May - 13:48

Did you know he once broke his leg in an FA Cup Final?

He rarely mentions it.

by NickisBHAFC Tue 28 May - 14:07

Martinez has to go to Everton now i recon. Or Stoke may want to make a move for him. Delighted to see him leave Wigan, he is way too good for them.

If Martinez takes some of the Wigan lads with him, i can't see Wigan having a superb season next year.

by NickisBHAFC Tue 28 May - 14:27

Titus Bramble and Matt Kilgallon both released by Sunderland. Can't see them getting signed on by Prem clubs. Championship sides for them i recon next season.

by Guest Tue 28 May - 14:30

I can really see Wigan following Wolves. I've just got a feeling.

by Duty281 Tue 28 May - 17:11

Be a good move for both parties if Martinez does go to Everton. Martinez gets to manage a better club, Everton get a solid manager who plays attractive football. Win win.

by **Mat** Tue 28 May - 19:03

Don't overly rate Martinez. His sides play good football I will give him that, but surely it must be questioned why he can only get his sides playing at the end of the season? Also, Steve Bruce took Wigan to higher finishes without spending much more money than Martinez.

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 19:08

Martinez is a character, not sure how good he is as a manager

I really like the Wigan owner though. He seems like a real honest decent Northerner!! And I hope they get a decent manager to replace him

by NickisBHAFC Tue 28 May - 19:12

mystiroakey wrote:Martinez is a character, not sure how good he is as a manager

I really like the Wigan owner though. He seems like a real honest decent Northerner!! And I hope they get a decent manager to replace him

Please don't tell me your talking about Whelan!

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 19:22

YES!!

Dave Whelan. Don't be mean!

by NickisBHAFC Tue 28 May - 19:24

He is like the most hated bloke on his forum Laugh

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 19:26

Really.

Well Iam not one to follow the crowd Nick!

I am Palace SUPER SUPER PALACE.

CPFC CPFC CPFC'EEEEEEE

CPFC COFC CPFC'EEEEEEE

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 28 May - 22:29

Whilst I understand the fears about Martinez, I think he'll prove all the doubters wrong.

However he is walking into a very tough job at Everton. An aging squad, restricted budget, following sustained league success, potentially going to lose your two best players (Baines and Fellaini).

by GSC Tue 28 May - 22:31

Martinez is good, but I'm not sure hes this good. Wigan playing reckless football and the run last year, as well as the FA cup against a City team that half arsed it, seem to have convinced some he did a better job than he actually did.

by Ent Tue 28 May - 22:37

I'd like to see anyone do a better job at a small club that loses its best players every year!

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 22:37

Everton are not going to happy if they fall out of the top 7!

I just dont think they have the goods anymore(no moyes and baines..)

Baines is going- A club will go in with at least 20 mill.

by GSC Tue 28 May - 22:37

Steve Bruce

by Ent Tue 28 May - 22:38

mystiroakey wrote:Everton are not going to happy if they fall out of the top 7!

I just dont think they have the goods anymore(no moyes and baines..)

Baines is going- A club will go in with at least 20 mill.

For a left back? Doubt it.

by GSC Tue 28 May - 22:38

Can probably throw Jewells name in there for establishing Wigan.

Martinez did a good job, but keeping Wigan up isn't some ground shattering achievement nobody else has ever done.

by Ent Tue 28 May - 22:40

GSC wrote:Steve Bruce

He didnt lose his best players every season.

by Ent Tue 28 May - 22:40

GSC wrote:Can probably throw Jewells name in there for establishi

ng Wigan.

Martinez did a good job, but keeping Wigan up isn't some ground shattering achievement nobody else has ever done.

Winning the fa cup is, not sure anyone's done it with all away ties either.

by GSC Tue 28 May - 22:44

Just because they couldn't beat Bournemouth at home and needed a replay doesn't make it all away ties.

And the 1 PL team they beat on their run to the final was Everton. Stunning. Though beating Bournemouth, Huddersfield and Millwall will be a confidence booster for when they play all 3 next season in the Championship.

by Ent Tue 28 May - 22:48

They beat Everton away and city at wembley- are you really diminishing that achievement because they had an otherwise favourable draw?

Martinez isn't going to revolutionise management but he is a capable guy, it's not like he is a terrible manager who has fluked his way through football.

by GSC Tue 28 May - 22:50

No, I'm saying that I don't think Martinez is particularly worthy of the acclaim he receives. Decent manager but I think Everton could and should do better.

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 23:02

Everton are a big club . going for martinez is accepting they will never ever break into the top 4

by Ent Tue 28 May - 23:06

Given evertons finances who else could they feasibly go for?

I think Martinez will do fine there, add a bit of attacking nous to the side to go with their grit.

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 23:11

I like Martinez. I just think he is a very lucky manager after a failed(IMO) season..

I also dont like the fact he is deserting after this.

I hope Wigan come against Everton in Europe and beat them Smile

by Ent Tue 28 May - 23:13

If anything he was unlucky this season, lost rodallega and Moses at the start of the season I believe and had a lot of injuries.

I do agree it is lucky/strange to pick up a big job after getting relegated.

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 23:22

I cannot believe Wigan got the benefit of Moses and then shipped him(I am not suprised that he went to chelsea - he is that good!!)

Its a bit gutting that we had to let him go so early due to our finances at the time!

by mystiroakey Tue 28 May - 23:31

And I am doubly gutted that he chose Nigeria over England after playing at all the age levels..after being sorted out and breed up at palace from a young age!!, Palace even got him in to whiftgift school!!- (Whiftgift school has produced many top sportsman and is a very high ranked private school in croydon)

I dont blame him for picking Nigeria. he has that right and had an awfull start to his life there and had no real choice but to come over here.. But he is part of the UK and palace system..

by Ent Wed 29 May - 0:23

To be fair he's not that good and wanted to play international football.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 29 May - 1:07

I really like Moses, considering Sterling has made it into the England squad this year then Moses definitely would have.

Martinez? Well, Moyes hadnt managed in the Premier League so I guess Martinez has a one up there. And hes done something Moyes couldnt in winning the FA Cup. Natural progression in many ways, he'll work within a budget for them and play decent football. Also very likeable generally and a good ambassador.

by mystiroakey Wed 29 May - 7:51

Moses was rated by many as the most influential player in the African cup!!

I think by that rationale we can call him international standard

Anyway this isn't about Moses..

by Ent Wed 29 May - 9:42

Manucho lit up an acon, no harm to it but it isn't exactly a stellar international tournament.

He probably thought he was unlikely to get an England call up which is fair enough as he isn't that good a player.

by mystiroakey Wed 29 May - 9:46

Yeah he did refuse Nigeria before. And if Capello had picked him. He would have been an England player!

I think he is a great player btw. Anyway good luck to him.

Part of the Palace system . Thats what matters!! Very Happy

He will allways be an eagle at heart

by Holymiky Wed 29 May - 9:57

It's being reported that The Falcao to Monaco deal is looking more likely to happen. What does everyone think of this move?

by Ent Wed 29 May - 10:26

I don't think Moses is all that great as all his ball kicking skills (shooting, crossing. Etc) are below par for pl standard.

Falcao to Monaco is interesting as it looks a step down from atletico but perhaps monacos new found spending power will make them a force in the next few years.

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