2012/13 Premier League discussion thread. The Final Day and Off Season

by Guest Sun May 19, 2013 5:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lets bring her home!

by Holymiky Wed May 29, 2013 10:58 am

One of the things that Moses is fantastic at is running at players and taking people on. He is a fantastic talent.

by Ent Wed May 29, 2013 11:44 am

Not disputing he is a powerful dribbler but I don't think he can be called fantastic as when it comes to actually kicking the ball he isn't great.

by NickisBHAFC Wed May 29, 2013 12:19 pm

Stoke set to name Mark Hughes as manager by the end of the week picard

by Holymiky Wed May 29, 2013 12:20 pm

An example of what he is capable of is a goal against Leeds in the Capital One cup in the season just finished. He can strike the ball that's for sure.

by MIG Wed May 29, 2013 12:21 pm

Stoke fans must be thrilled. What an improvement....

by Bull Wed May 29, 2013 12:24 pm

Can anyone explain how Mark Hughes keeps getting employed?

by Duty281 Wed May 29, 2013 12:33 pm

Mark Hughes has done very little in his managerial career. Was there no one better that Stoke could have hired?

by NickisBHAFC Wed May 29, 2013 12:33 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:Can anyone explain how Mark Hughes keeps getting employed?

This.

Admittedly he did an alright job for Blackburn and Wales though. But Fulham, QPR and Man City he didn't do very well at all.

by nasisillmatic Wed May 29, 2013 1:07 pm

I think he done really well at Blackburn & good at Fulham, it's when he's had a lot of money to spend where he's failed. Stoke could be a good fit for him.

by NickisBHAFC Wed May 29, 2013 7:00 pm

Apparently Maurico Pochettino has been offered the Benfica job.

by Duty281 Wed May 29, 2013 7:22 pm

Mark Hughes has just beaten his own standards of woefulness. He hasn't even started, but one fan wants him out already.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22710396

by Ent Wed May 29, 2013 8:44 pm

Got to laugh at Suarez, quotes attributed to him blaming the uk media for his woes.

Good player but a cretin and an idiot.

by Corporalhumblebucket Wed May 29, 2013 9:17 pm

Will Hughes last a full season at Stoke? Unlikely

by NickisBHAFC Wed May 29, 2013 10:14 pm

Sacked by Christmas and then its too little too late for the new manager to come in and keep them up.

by NickisBHAFC Thu May 30, 2013 1:25 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22715923

All confirmed.

Fair play to him though, we have seen managers prove us wrong. When Di Canio got the job at Sunderland people completely wrote them off for relegation and look he has become a Sunderland legend for that 3-0 win at Newcastle.

I would of rather seen Poyet or Martinez take the Stoke job personally to give them a new style of play. I doubt Hughes will bring that.

But i stick by my word, can't see them doing very well this season.

by **Crimey** Thu May 30, 2013 1:29 pm

I think it's weird how strongly negative the reaction to his appointment has been. He's hardly an awful manager, he was poor at QPR but Redknapp was arguably worse and yet his reputation seems to have been kept in tact, Hughes didn't do excellently at City either, but that job and the Stoke job aren't really comparable.

When you look at his time at Blackburn and Fulham, two clubs that do compare to Stoke, he has done fairly well. As long as Stoke don't let him spend a lot of money I think he'll be fairly successful. I can see him playing slightly better football than Pulis, not tika-taka, but a little less violent.

by GSC Thu May 30, 2013 1:32 pm

Hughes did great with Wales and Blackburn, meh with City, decently with Fulham and bad with QPR

by Guest Thu May 30, 2013 2:21 pm

Change of subject slightly, will there be a thread like last summer to discuss transfers with the post being edited to reflect key transfers and then have discussion about rumours, confirmed signings etc

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu May 30, 2013 2:32 pm

Think there's one in the main football bit Gazzy.

Hughes is being overly criticised. Seems Harry and Fernandes PR attacks on him have worked.

by Duty281 Thu May 30, 2013 2:59 pm

http://www.marca.com/2013/05/30/en/football/real_madrid/1369899845.html

Has Suarez gone? £40 million if true.

by Holymiky Thu May 30, 2013 2:59 pm

On the BBC website it has been reported that Chelsea have agreed a fee for Andre Schurrle.

by mystiroakey Thu May 30, 2013 3:00 pm

I think its the best think to happen tbh.

I wonder if he will get an 11 game ban in la liga Whistle

by NickisBHAFC Thu May 30, 2013 3:04 pm

People need to realize Harry Redknapp is an amazing manager and should be the England manager, Hughes screwed QPR up and not even Harry could keep them up due to the mess Hughes left them in.

As for Suarez, i really hope he stays, i want to see him bite Glenn Murray next year.

by **Crimey** Thu May 30, 2013 3:06 pm

I'd say Redknapp hasn't had a much better career than Hughes to be honest.

by NickisBHAFC Thu May 30, 2013 3:09 pm

Isn't it Sir Harry Redknapp?

by GSC Thu May 30, 2013 3:24 pm

Redknapps the best manager in England at leading sides to financial oblivion.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu May 30, 2013 3:32 pm

I think you want Suarez to stay for your own personal reasons Nick, considering how desperate you are for people to bite at some of the things you say

by Stella Thu May 30, 2013 3:41 pm

I'd like to see Suarez stay in the EPL. Great player to watch. That said, Sky do show Madrid every week, so we may see more of him if he moves.

by NickisBHAFC Thu May 30, 2013 4:29 pm

chris.wilkerson13 wrote:I think you want Suarez to stay for your own personal reasons Nick, considering how desperate you are for people to bite at some of the things you say

I do want Suarez to stay though. Class player and that's where they belong in the Premiership.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu May 30, 2013 4:49 pm

I dont particularly care if he stays or goes. I would be intrigued to see how Liverpool cope without him and I think hes a brat who doesnt deserve to be pandered to by a club that considers itself above these things. However, he does some things of pure class so if he could learn to control his attitude then he'd only add to the league. My overriding desire to see Liverpool weakened probably wins, they are still a side to me that could regress or progress and if its the former I would like the chance to move forward whilst they go back and finally win a damn game at Anfield

by Guest Thu May 30, 2013 5:52 pm

chris.wilkerson13 wrote:I dont particularly care if he stays or goes. I would be intrigued to see how Liverpool cope without him and I think hes a brat who doesnt deserve to be pandered to by a club that considers itself above these things. However, he does some things of pure class so if he could learn to control his attitude then he'd only add to the league. My overriding desire to see Liverpool weakened probably wins, they are still a side to me that could regress or progress and if its the former I would like the chance to move forward whilst they go back and finally win a damn game at Anfield

I'd imagine we'd have been about the same points wise. If he goes he goes...

by GSC Thu May 30, 2013 5:54 pm

FreekShow wrote:
chris.wilkerson13 wrote:I dont particularly care if he stays or goes. I would be intrigued to see how Liverpool cope without him and I think hes a brat who doesnt deserve to be pandered to by a club that considers itself above these things. However, he does some things of pure class so if he could learn to control his attitude then he'd only add to the league. My overriding desire to see Liverpool weakened probably wins, they are still a side to me that could regress or progress and if its the former I would like the chance to move forward whilst they go back and finally win a damn game at Anfield

I'd imagine we'd have been about the same points wise. If he goes he goes...

by Guest Thu May 30, 2013 6:01 pm

Without Suarez we actually have a better win ratio so scratch that. We'd have finished 6th G! Roll your eyes over that one!

by GSC Thu May 30, 2013 6:01 pm

by Guest Thu May 30, 2013 6:03 pm

GSC wrote:

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu May 30, 2013 6:31 pm

Hughes will do a decent job at Stoke I feel.

They seem to be going down the evolution route, rather than revolution

by NickisBHAFC Thu May 30, 2013 6:32 pm

Seems a Mr Joey Barton doesn't agree with the appointment of Mark Hughes Laugh

Joseph Barton ‏@Joey7Barton Those Stoke directors must be mental...

by DP Thu May 30, 2013 8:48 pm

I like Stoke's chairman, makes it seem like a methodical, thought out appointment. Whether it works out that way, who knows.

Harsh to judge Hughes purely on QPR, let's be fair, he had a stinker, but at the same time, before that he'd done a sound job everywhere else. Coates will be a lot more stringent than Fernandes, you'd feel, so perhaps his signings might be of better quality.

by GSC Thu May 30, 2013 9:06 pm

Joey Barton is a massive man sausage anyway

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu May 30, 2013 9:36 pm

Georgie Bingham ‏@georgiebingham
Random... Adrian Mutu wants to adopt the chinese orphan flushed down the loo. "He has been sent to me by god"

Laugh

by JDizzle Thu May 30, 2013 10:02 pm

I'd take Hughes back to Wales in a heartbeat. Better than bloody Chris Coleman.

by Nakatomi Plaza Thu May 30, 2013 10:06 pm

Olly wrote:Georgie Bingham ‏@georgiebingham
Random... Adrian Mutu wants to adopt the chinese orphan flushed down the loo. "He has been sent to me by god"

Got a feeling Mr Mutu might be due a random drug test pretty sharpish

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri May 31, 2013 1:17 pm

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
Luis Suarez confirms he wants to leave Liverpool.

by NickisBHAFC Fri May 31, 2013 1:21 pm

Big news for Liverpool fans today. If he goes

Can see Liverpool going for Benteke or maybe even David Villa.

by The Special Juan Fri May 31, 2013 1:25 pm

I hope Liverpool get more than they paid for him. He's not a bad player, just a bad person.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri May 31, 2013 1:31 pm

Good news for Liverpool then? I mean, their points ratio is better without him right?

Try finding a world class striker now, got to hope money talks on this one

by Guest Fri May 31, 2013 1:57 pm

Good decision that he's going. He can roll around with, dive with & cheat with all the other embarrassing play-acting idiots in La Liga next season

David Villa would be a horrible replacement. He's nowhere near the standard he was a couple of years ago and has not fully recovered or regained any kind of form since his last broken leg. Benteke for £20m.....Villa would find that hard to reject but then Bent is supposedly being sold, so it's a risky situation for them.

by nasisillmatic Fri May 31, 2013 2:03 pm

Our win ratio is better without him based on the 2011-2012 season, where he played well but didn't score as much. If it wasn't for him last season, we would've finished way below 7th.

While we coped well without him against Newcastle, Fulham & QPR, it's games like the Everton one were we need that bit of magic he can provide to win a game.

This will be a massive loss and I feel a little let down by him.

by GSC Fri May 31, 2013 3:28 pm

As always, Luis Suarez never fails to show just how much of a bell end he can be. Its not really the British media's fault Luis, nobody pushed you to bite Ivanovic. Then turning his back on the club that went further than it should've done to support him.

Fantastic player but complete and utter Meat trombone soloist.

by **VDT** Fri May 31, 2013 4:01 pm

I reckon SaurBackz could just be doing a Rooney! Claim your unhappy to get a better deal!

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