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Post by sirfredperry Mon 26 Aug 2013, 4:22 pm

First topic message reminder :

Have changed the topic so that this thread can run through the tournament. Hope that's OK


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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:15 pm

And so passes a woeful, woeful match.
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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:34 pm

Sky Sports are showing a repeat of the final in 95 between Seles and Graf. It's amazing how quick the court is and also how much better quality the match is compared to some of the borefests these days. I guess women's tennis prospers on quick courts.
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Post by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:49 pm

Shows how great of a champion Graf was.

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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:28 pm

Djokovic - Nadal. How hard can you batter the ball at your opponent?
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Post by Danny_1982 Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:46 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Djokovic - Nadal.  How hard can you batter the ball at your opponent?
That third set was one of my favourite sets of tennis. Both at their absolute best.

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Post by CAS Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:58 pm

whats the situation on the weather? Still a while away?

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Post by HM Murdock Mon 02 Sep 2013, 8:12 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Djokovic - Nadal.  How hard can you batter the ball at your opponent?
Their best match in my opinion. The zenith of baseline tennis before it went a bit too far at AO12.

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Post by CAS Mon 02 Sep 2013, 8:14 pm

yeah I enjoyed that match much more than their Aussie match, it was stunning from start to finish. The match in oz didn't really get going til the 4th set

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Post by CAS Mon 02 Sep 2013, 8:20 pm

it was the first time I have ever seen Rafa completely lost for spells, where he couldn't best Novak. His incredible will in the 3rd set for me is what changed his mentality against him, even though he lost the match and then in in Oz he made lots of strides as he got the djokovic monkey off his back. He said the 3rd set was when he figured out what to do.

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Post by banbrotam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 8:34 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Sky Sports are showing a repeat of the final in 95 between Seles and Graf.  It's amazing how quick the court is and also how much better quality the match is compared to some of the borefests these days.  I guess women's tennis prospers on quick courts.
I'm in the middle of watching the Sampras / Fed Wimby 2001 match. I've yet to watch a point that's much above 5 stroke's and I'm in the fourth set Smile 

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Post by HM Murdock Mon 02 Sep 2013, 8:36 pm

CAS wrote:He said the 3rd set was when he figured out what to do.
Yes, it was quite straight forward really. Position himself further forward and be more aggressive. I don't think he quite had the confidence to do it consistently in AO12 but he certainly seems to have it sussed now!

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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 8:52 pm

banbrotam wrote:I hope you are correct

Remember it is about match-ups. Either one could beat Murray

And I certainly think that Berdych could beat Novak, Roger and / or Rafa - remember, we still have to see how the latter is at the tail end of a hard court slam. Plus Berdych's hard hitting game could trouble Rafa anyway

Stan's is admittedly a bit more far fetched!!
For me either one could beat Andy if he employs the wrong tactics and is too passive. The big key to Andy beating Tomas or Stan is aggression/attacking levels. If he goes into attritional mode and tries working his opponents around he will lose as it is a tactic that allows big hitters to get their big shot in first and dictate the points to him. He must be aggressive, get right on top in the rallies and approach the net. Pressuring Berdych into making passing shots and winners will pay far more dividends than trying to run the legs off him.
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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 9:15 pm

Don't get me wrong, Nadal v Djokovic can be superb tennis matches when they both play well but it reminds me of the WTA - just hit it as hard as you can at your opponent without much variety. To be fair to Novak, in recent times he's coming to the net to change it up but the bulk of it is a power baseline game.
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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 9:16 pm

banbrotam wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Sky Sports are showing a repeat of the final in 95 between Seles and Graf.  It's amazing how quick the court is and also how much better quality the match is compared to some of the borefests these days.  I guess women's tennis prospers on quick courts.
I'm in the middle of watching the Sampras / Fed Wimby 2001 match. I've yet to watch a point that's much above 5 stroke's and I'm in the fourth set Smile 
I remember watching highlights of it on YouTube a few months ago. It shows how good Federer has been that he's beaten Sampras in "his" conditions and all of today's players in "their" conditions.
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Post by hawkeye Mon 02 Sep 2013, 9:30 pm

Roger has just been "nobbled"! His match has just been moved to Armstrong and it's still raining...

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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 9:33 pm

I think Ivanovic has been "nobbled" more than anyone.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 9:35 pm

hawkeye wrote:Roger has just been "nobbled"! His match has just been moved to Armstrong and it's still raining...


Even more Robredo has been 'nobbled' even more then. Deprived of a rare spot on Arthur Ashe.
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Post by Jeremy_Kyle Mon 02 Sep 2013, 9:44 pm

The Special Juan wrote:I think Ivanovic has been "nobbled" more than anyone.
I have got no idea of how much Ana has been nobbled, but I would certainly be happy to nobble her if I have a chance.

Anyway,, does anybody know how is weather over in NY??
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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 9:50 pm

Jeremy_Kyle wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:I think Ivanovic has been "nobbled" more than anyone.
I have got no idea of how much Ana has been nobbled, but I would certainly be happy to nobble her if I have a chance.

Anyway,, does anybody know how is  weather over in NY??
Laugh Poor Ana, she'll never be remembered for being a decent tennis player when she retires.

I think the rain's off and play is away to begin. Riske and Hantuchova have resumed playing.
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Post by Holymiky Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:07 pm

Hi all, I'm interested to see who you guys and girls think will win the US Open, Mens, Womens and doubles etc?

I thought i would ask whilst the play had stopped.

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Post by Jahu Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:18 pm

Holy, please don't start a war Smile Obviously since you're insisting, the world wants Fed to win, English speaking people want Murray, Barcelona and Chile want Nadal, and no one wants Djoko to win apart from his mom, and some guy from Iran.

For ladies, well, let the most beautiful lady win.
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Post by Holymiky Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:20 pm

My apologies, i wasn't trying to cause trouble or anything i am genuinely interested in what people think.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:20 pm

Has to be the Bryans in the doubles and Serena in the ladies.
Men's is harder to call. Djoko or Nadal, with Murray not far behind.

The great thing is, I could be wrong on all of those!

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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:22 pm

I think Rafael Nadal will win.

Roger Federer about to get under way against Tommy Robredo - should be staight forward for Roger. On Grandstand David Ferrer is in action agaist Janko Tipsarevic and it is going with serve at 3-3 in the first set.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:23 pm

As for ladies - Serena Williams and Doubles I will say the Bryans as well.
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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:23 pm

Women's - Serena (doubles and singles)
Men's Doubles - Bryans surely
Men's Singles - Flip a 3-sided coin. Couldn't back against Nadal though.
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Post by JuliusHMarx Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:27 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Flip a 3-sided coin....
"If it's head I'll go to Tennessee, tails I'll buy a drink.
If it lands on the edge, I'll keep talkin' toooo youuuuu" music 

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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:36 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Flip a 3-sided coin....
"If it's head I'll go to Tennessee, tails I'll buy a drink.
If it lands on the edge, I'll keep talkin' toooo youuuuu" music 
You old crooner you Smile
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Post by Jahu Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:42 pm

Fed starts with a lovely 0:40. Come on Fed, Tommy will knock your lights off, get a move, NOW!

And loses serve, disaster.


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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:44 pm

Go on Tommy!! I'm being pro-Robredo tonight.
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Post by Jahu Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:46 pm

Fed needs 4 setter tonight. Get some play under, before Nadal slaps him.
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Post by Jahu Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:59 pm

Fed 0:2 to 3:2. Waking up slowly.
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Post by Johnyjeep Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:02 pm

Commentators on Eurosport are suggesting it might be the larger racket he's using? Are they talking nonsense? I can't tell? Maybe they were just trying to explain his appalling start?

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Post by banbrotam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:08 pm

Robredo's becoming even more impressive than Haas. It's as though he's seen the light for the first time and doesn't ever want to be 'blind' again.

He's always been my favourite Spaniard after Juan Carlos and I was pretty impressed with his play against Andy at Wimby

Roger, needs to bring something like his B+ game - but there is a big doubt as to whether it is available at this stage of a slam and with a suspect back

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Post by banbrotam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:13 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
banbrotam wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Sky Sports are showing a repeat of the final in 95 between Seles and Graf.  It's amazing how quick the court is and also how much better quality the match is compared to some of the borefests these days.  I guess women's tennis prospers on quick courts.
I'm in the middle of watching the Sampras / Fed Wimby 2001 match. I've yet to watch a point that's much above 5 stroke's and I'm in the fourth set Smile 
I remember watching highlights of it on YouTube a few months ago.  It shows how good Federer has been that he's beaten Sampras in "his" conditions and all of today's players in "their" conditions.

For me the conditions were way too fast and although they are too slow now, I can understand why they were slowed down

I mean you had two of the world's most skilful Tennis players ever, barley able to muster a decent passing shot. It was almost like Isner/Mahut Yikes Yikes I loved the drama at the time, but skills wise I couldn't get into it now

Fair play to Roger as he's seen all the conditions and been the best on them all


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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:16 pm

It doesn't matter how but you feel Roger must get this match won with minimum of fuss, preferably in straight sets with no more than two an a half hours play. He must go into the match against Rafa as fresh as possible.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:17 pm

I'm saddened by tonight's lack of Ana Sad
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Post by Jahu Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:26 pm

fed rolling on his magic finally. Oh how I miss last decade Wink
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Post by banbrotam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:29 pm

Murray's got the night match tomorrow, so thats him cooking on gas Very Happy 

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Post by banbrotam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:34 pm

Jahu wrote:fed rolling on his magic finally. Oh how I miss last decade Wink
Fed/Robredo/Hewitt/Youzny/Haas. Isn't it appalling how the youngsters have just wilted against these players?

I mean how on earth is Robredo allowed to recover from his terrible injuries and take his place back in the Top 20 as easy as taking ice cream from a toddler Rolling Eyes 

I continue to be underwhelmed by all the young ones, although at least Raonic has some semblance of consistency

Murray and Novak will be two of the youngest last 16 in the draw Erm 

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Post by Jahu Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:35 pm

Tommy takes first set. Fed good, but actually not that good.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:37 pm

Robredo takes the first set in a tie-break and Roger drops his first set of the tournament. It is time for Fed to up his game.
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Post by banbrotam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:38 pm

Never seen Robredo looked so animated!! Its as though he wants to prove a point to Federer. Appears to have an issue with Roger, but can't remember any issues previously - probably just an adrenalin rush

Roger, sadly, looks slow

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Post by Jahu Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:40 pm

Robredo will choke it now quickly, thought seeing him and Haas as 30+ club, both seem much more physical and powerful then Fed, which is winning this years matched on sheer talent.

Fed had deteriorated quickly this year, bodywise. Looks like a guy who just came from the beach bar, knackered.
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Post by banbrotam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:41 pm

And Tipsy has just broken Ferrer!! An interesting night is ahead, but I'm way too knackered. Night all

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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:41 pm

banbrotam wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:
banbrotam wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Sky Sports are showing a repeat of the final in 95 between Seles and Graf.  It's amazing how quick the court is and also how much better quality the match is compared to some of the borefests these days.  I guess women's tennis prospers on quick courts.
I'm in the middle of watching the Sampras / Fed Wimby 2001 match. I've yet to watch a point that's much above 5 stroke's and I'm in the fourth set Smile 
I remember watching highlights of it on YouTube a few months ago.  It shows how good Federer has been that he's beaten Sampras in "his" conditions and all of today's players in "their" conditions.
For me the conditions were way too fast and although they are too slow now, I can understand why they were slowed down

I mean you had two of the world's most skilful Tennis players ever, barley able to muster a decent passing shot. It was almost like Isner/Mahut Yikes Yikes I loved the drama at the time, but skills wise I couldn't get into it now

Fair play to Roger as he's seen all the conditions and been the best on them all

Yeah I could never go back to watching "that" tennis. The rallies are over before they begin and it's not much fun from a viewers perspectiv. Don't get me wrong, some courts on the ATP tour need to be sped up but nothing too dramatic please!!
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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:42 pm

Tipsarevic about to serve for the second set against David Ferrer. That has the makings of a marathon having already been playing an hour and three quarters.
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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:44 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Tipsarevic about to serve for the second set against David Ferrer. That has the makings of a marathon having already been playing an hour and three quarters.
He served for the first too. I have every confidence he'll bottle it.
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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:47 pm

Dom the Bomb and Treat the Threat are a set and a break up against Granollers and Lopez, the 3rd seeds.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:49 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:Tipsarevic about to serve for the second set against David Ferrer. That has the makings of a marathon having already been playing an hour and three quarters.
He served for the first too.  I have every confidence he'll bottle it.
No he held his nerve and took the set 6-3. Raonic I feel has a very good chance of reaching his first slam semi.
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