US Open - Matches - continued

As you were...

I think we are being harsh on him. For all we know and all the evidence put forward he could be mentally unwell (genuine post)

back to it , julius is there things forums can do to clock ip adresses or contact someone to do something, I hate having to deal with flthy little pr**** like that.

Anyway, can't see Djoko losing the same way. Nice to have an upset or 3

Maybe he is mentally unwell, I know how that feels and its AGONY.

This USO is turning form the worst in years, to a good one.

Jahu.

Federer Gonzalez in Melbourne 2007?

theslosty, well done mate.

falzy21 wrote:back to it , julius is there things forums can do to clock ip adresses or contact someone to do something, I hate having to deal with flthy little pr**** like that. The world would be better if theyd never been born

If he has a dynamic IP address it means it changes all the time. If he has a static IP address then it never changed and yes, it can be blocked. I have no idea if this forum blocks IP address or just blocks accounts, but a troll like homo will always be able to create a new account if his IP is dynamic.

Jahu wrote:theslosty, well done mate.

Certainly nice to see the shot hanging in there.

Certain someone passing the baton?

Well how far does it have to go and for how long before you can get people involved in it? Id love to see his fat little face if the police turned up at his basement

Back to tennis guys. And no dynamic IP does not change all the time, it changes only if your modem is completely offline and someone else was offline too, but got online before you and took the next available IP from ARP table of ISP router.

Just responding to Special Juan's comment about not making excuses for injuries, let me add I agree 100%

Andy was outplayed. His big weakness is that as soon as his return game goes or the other guy is simply too much in control of his serve, the rest of his game caves in

Like the Wimbledon final, let's have no nonsense about the so called favourite not been at his best - in both these matches the winning player won, because they got into the head of the loser and didn't let go

Gonzalez tribute videos hijacking my A levels.

Irrelevant,but - What. A. Forehand.

Danny / CC    

But well done to Stan, who I've always liked and I hope this is a 'Soderling' like period of mixing it with the best for a couple of years or so

Chequeredjersey, re your wedding crashers comment - Great movie!
When I fell in love with Rachel McAdams!

Back to the match tonight, I've never seen Stan play with such self assurance. You'd think he was defending champion, not Murray. And where has that serve come from?

For Andy it should be remembered that he has reached the final and won 2 of the last 4 slams he's played. He hasn't become a bad player.

He's had that success because he's become more comfortable playing on the front foot and hitting through the court. Tonight there was no evidence of that and it was a bit like stepping back in time 3 years, but it is a one off. He normally finds a way. Tonight he didn't. Stan was too good and Murray will be back.

For me Ivan Lendl has worked on a lot of Andy's game to great success. Now it is clear what the next on the to-do list is. Work on a game plan to better combat hard hitters.

No excuses from me - the far better player won on the day and hope he does himself justice in the semi. Andy just never got a foothold in the game and so many facets of his game misfired to even consider him being able to challenge Stan.

Stan is in the form of his life (Stan's words) and to combat that Andy needed to play a heck of a lot better than he did. I suppose clues were there as to Andy's form such as poor showings in recent Masters and sets dropped here against Mayer and Istomin in earlier rounds. For Andy he now has to take this heavy defeat on the chin and look to finish the season as strongly as possible to reassert himself.

Danny_1982 wrote:Back to the match tonight, I've never seen Stan play with such self assurance. You'd think he was defending champion, not Murray. And where has that serve come from?

For Andy it should be remembered that he has reached the final and won 2 of the last 4 slams he's played. He hasn't become a bad player.

He's had that success because he's become more comfortable playing on the front foot and hitting through the court. Tonight there was no evidence of that and it was a bit like stepping back in time 3 years, but it is a one off. He normally finds a way. Tonight he didn't. Stan was too good and Murray will be back.

I actually don't think Andy did much wrong other than have a brain fade when he lost his serve. But he did that at Wimbledon as well!! If Stan can play like this for the rest of tournament he can win it - that backhand will even keep Rafa honest. Likelyhood is, because he's in new territory an 'old' Stan performance will happen in the semi's

For sure, if Stan does the unthinkable and knocks out Nole in the semis, Nadal would walk this tournament. And we'd probably have to hear a lot about an asterixed slam in the future. 

Bad hair day for Murray, due to strong easterly from Switzerland.

Forecast for semi final........ though intense heat from the Siberian desert will prevail for most of the 1st session, expect a cold, hard frost to permeate the second session and freeze the ambient high temperatures. Cloud will descend and a mist will follow with sunny spells trying to break through.

Permanent low levels of wind will drive the heat away and we shall end the day with driving snow drifting sideways on the court.

Let's not jinx him. Every dog has it's day, well Stan needs 2 more days

PS..............Don't feed the Troll, it gets excited and could do itself damage against the railings.

Djokovic said at the start of the year that the biggest change in Murray's game was his 1-2 punch on serve... Basically, being really aggressive with his second shot and not allowing people into his service games as much.

It has been the biggest and best change in his game in my opinion, and it disappeared tonight. Whether it was confidence, the wind... I don't know. But Stan just blocked a lot of returns and over the last year that's when Murray unloads. Didn't happen once all night.

That's not normal Murray nowadays. I don't think tonight is in any way representative of the Murray since Lendl. His returns were poor, but I guess that can happen.... But it's the first time since Lendl that I've seen him step away from the 1-2 and that's the bit I don't get. Consequently Stan got first hit and virtually every service game turned into a struggle. And mostly from blocked returns!

Anyway... What's done is done.

I felt this was going to be a close match but I never expected it to be straight sets routing. I was certain Murray would not defend his title. If he did not slip up before the final he would certainly have in the final vs Nadal. Winning a slam is one thing, defending it a year later is another. That's why 2014 will be interesting where Nadal is concerned...

Anyway job well done by Stan. He has always been a tricky customer for Murray for many years (Wimbledon 2009 comes to mind) but sometimes his game can fall apart as it did vs Djokovic in Melbourne. I doubt he will get to the final and to be honest, if he does it is going to be as predictable as the FO final.

Murray suffered from horrendous uprisings from the bottom.

"Yes sir, but surely that was traced to a shipment of garlic eclairs!"

Blackadder rides forth LS ?

Nope, Blackadder goes forth

Gonzalez tribute videos hijacking my A levels.

Irrelevant,but - What. A. Forehand.

Wow did not see that one coming Murray getting absolutely mauled by Stan Wawrinka. Stan played exceptionally, he served well, attacked the net and dictated the play from the back of the court. For murray more than the result I was disappointed in how little fightback he showed through the match. I mean losing to Stan is no shame because of the power and talent he has mixed together with how well he served today. But Murray could not even manage a break point? There was no fight back and he was just overwhelmed.

It happens, look at Federer against Robredo. Been a long year for the Muzz, his first GS defence, he made a decent stab but didn't have the usual reserves to summon. He can begin to wind down on the asian swing for one last big go at WTF. Then soak in the plaudits for wimbledon

As I said earlier Stan (by his admittance) is in the form of his life so evidently his game and mind and soul were in the right place today as he stepped onto court and he played simply brilliant stuff. On the other hand what shape was Murray in form-wise? Well we know he had two poor showings in Montreal and Cincinatti coming into the US Open and then in earlier rounds he dropped sets against Mayer and Istomin. That tells me Andy wasn't in the greatest form (far from it) and his game was a mess today hence the one-sided scoreline.

It's a worry he lost so meekly but I am sure he will bounce back. I personally want him to ditch all this 'peak for slams' tosh and throw caution to the wind at Masters events as well as they are crucial to building momentum and ranking points. If he had put in better displays in Montreal and Cincinatti he probably would have held onto the No.2 ranking and got a more favourable draw. Think on Andy.

ChequeredJersey wrote:I think we are being harsh on him. For all we know and all the evidence put forward he could be mentally unwell (genuine post)

  

Danny_1982 wrote:

falzy21 wrote:back to it , julius is there things forums can do to clock ip adresses or contact someone to do something, I hate having to deal with flthy little pr**** like that. The world would be better if theyd never been born

If he has a dynamic IP address it means it changes all the time. If he has a static IP address then it never changed and yes, it can be blocked. I have no idea if this forum blocks IP address or just blocks accounts, but a troll like homo will always be able to create a new account if his IP is dynamic.

Well as for as my knowledge 99% have dynamic IP which doesn't mean it can't be blocked.

Lemme explain how dynamic IP works , an IP looks like xx.xxx.xxx.xx so basically the last 2 or 3 digits only change on dynamic IP conditions, you can set static IP but thats again two kinds, a dynamic Static IP which is determined by the service provider and other one is static IP set by the router which again end of the day will reflect to a Dynamic IP set by the service provider.

So to answer in simple, the poster's IP address flashes at the end of his post which can be seen by mods and Admins and they can block dynamically by blocking all IPs starting with so and so,

for instance if 22.100.500.600 is the issue, then Admins can block 22.100.500.*** or they can go even a step higher and block like 22.100.** in this case most IP adress of that street itself could be blocked, like wise they can block the entire 9 digits of IP and block the city and nation from which the poster is posting upon.

However one cannot do anything if the poster is smart enough and use proxy, the only solution in that case is to prevent the forum from being accessible from proxy servers, I have run a huge forum like this as an Admin in SMF, I have also modded forums in SMF, Invision and VBulletin [ofcourse Phpbb].

So the answer its more the possible to trace the user, it depends upon how much permission Admins have set for mods to trace an user.

Regarding launching a complaint on a cyber user for harassement its a very long process and the rules vary from country to country and unless and until the respective country of the poster is serious about Cyber Bullying like in the case of Canada nothing can be done.

Cyber Bulleyers are real life failures , they bully people online coz they have a huge depression in real life and scarred puppies to overcome it, so the shortcut they follow is come and bully somebody online from the hidden doors.  

its just a shame, theyre cowardly people and nice people have to deal with them. Which ruins it for the rest f us. This one has a vendetta for standing up to him it seems

falzy21 wrote:its just a shame, theyre cowardly people and nice people have to deal with them. Which ruins it for the rest f us. This one has a vendetta for standing up to him it seems

There is a famous saying never "Never fight with an idiot, coz they will take you down to their level and win by experience"  , the best punishment you can give to trolls is keep ignoring them till they get bored. 

While I am happy for Youzhny for reaching the QF he spoiled all my USO matches one by one,

1st]I was waiting for Haas Djoko repeat
2nd]Hewitt Djoko match up
3rd]Haas Hewitt old rivalry in 4th round.

but Colonel spoiled it one by one bye beating winning the battle of oldies one by one and now surrendering to Djoko tamely. 

If somebody asked to predict who among the three oldies Hewitt, Haas and Youzhny would make to QF , many would have gone for Hewitt followed by Haas but Colonel had other ideas, now Colonel pls give us a good game in QF.  

Sorry to say Djoko style is so boring, he is waiting for the Colonel to make the mistake by just putting the ball back , and Colonel while hitting some good shots losing the match by making more mistakes.

Djokovic was stung by losing a set (spoiling his US 2013), so he mauled the Colonel 6-0 in the fourth.

@iC... wait till IPv6 gets fully deployed, then websites will have hell of a time blocking by IPs. We should use MAC addresses (despite MAC address spoofing), but they are not always visible in layer 2/3 and get hidden behind NAT/PAT.

Someone suggested RFIDing every human when they are born (at least in the Western World).

I would start with all the banned posters on forums being given an RFID which their internet devices will embed in every packet transmitted to a server, so they can be identified, and banned/re-banned, if necessary.

I am very glad to see two new faces at a slam SF, despite all the detractors of Wawrinka and Gasquet. Wawrinka had a good 2008, and he seems to be reaching similar heights this year. A final on Clay, etc. Gasquet seems to have become fitter and has a recent title (very impressed with him v Raonic too).

Wawrinka on this form could be very dangerous to Djokovic , I could see Novak losing to Stan, but I can't see Stan having any chance against Nadal. The way I see it Novak is the only guy capable of stopping Nadal on current form. Really have to say I am surprised by how well Nadal has raised his level on hardcourts to up the ante on Novak and Andy.

In the other semi, I love Richie G's game and would love nothing better to see him pull off the upset but I would be stunned if he did it. Lets just say Nadal is a heavy favorite and that this is a bad matchup for Gazza. Nadal is just bad matchup for a lot of guys nowadays.

laverfan wrote:Djokovic was stung by losing a set (spoiling his US 2013), so he mauled the Colonel 6-0 in the fourth.

I had the impression that Djokovic could not be bothered thinking he was going to win in straight sets playing somewhere in the second gear and then turned it up a bit after he lost the set.

laverfan wrote:I am very glad to see two new faces at a slam SF

Maybe new, but quite old.

socal1976 wrote:Wawrinka on this form could be very dangerous to Djokovic , I could see Novak losing to Stan, but I can't see Stan having any chance against Nadal. The way I see it Novak is the only guy capable of stopping Nadal on current form.

Agree with this word for word.

socal1976 wrote:In the other semi, I love Richie G's game and would love nothing better to see him pull off the upset but I would be stunned if he did it.

Also, cannot see it.  The last time he won a set against Rafa was the first set of their match in Canada in 2008.  They played 14 sets since then - one was 7:5 for Rafa, two were 6:4, two were 6:3, and remaining nine were 6:2 or better.  In total, Gasquet won 32 games in those 14 sets - so he should expect to win 7 games on Saturday.  Maybe something like 6:3 6:2 6:2 would work just fine.

Someone was asking about the last time Andy failed to generate a break point.  I checked through his slam matches - the last time Andy went without a break point in a slam match was in his 2008 Wimbledon 3:6 2:6 4:6 QF loss to Rafa.

That's 14 slam semi finals in a row for Novak. Impressive stuff.

laverfan wrote:Djokovic was stung by losing a set (spoiling his US 2013), so he mauled the Colonel 6-0 in the fourth.

@iC... wait till IPv6 gets fully deployed, then websites will have hell of a time blocking by IPs. We should use MAC addresses (despite MAC address spoofing), but they are not always visible in layer 2/3 and get hidden behind NAT/PAT.

Someone suggested RFIDing every human when they are born (at least in the Western World).

I would start with all the banned posters on forums being given an RFID which their internet devices will embed in every packet transmitted to a server, so they can be identified, and banned/re-banned, if necessary.

I am very glad to see two new faces at a slam SF, despite all the detractors of Wawrinka and Gasquet. Wawrinka had a good 2008, and he seems to be reaching similar heights this year. A final on Clay, etc. Gasquet seems to have become fitter and has a recent title (very impressed with him v Raonic too).

You are joking aren't you? That's an obscene idea.

It's likely Wawrinka can't play like that 2 matches running...but I sure hope he does because I too find Novak's play too metronomic. Ok it's not in the same league as barnyard Granollers but he doesn't inspire me to watch nonetheless. I find his game akin to watching a well oiled conveyor belt - it rolls along at the same pace, in the same direction, doing exactly what you expect it to do, delivering the goods with no fuss or flashiness on time, on spec, at the end. Here's to Stan throwing a spanner into the works.

I suspect that Rafa fans are thinking that Gasquet on top form could cause Rafa real problems, but that Stan has very little chance against Djoko.

I also suspect that Djoko fans are thinking that Stan on top form could cause Djoko real problems, but that Gasquet has very little chance against Rafa.

I don't see either Djoko or Rafa being pushed to 5 sets. I have Djoko as a marginal favourite in a Djoko/Rafa final.

It's interesting how everyone was saying after the draw that Fedal was a QF highlight (assuming Rafa got past his tough match with Isner) and that either Djoko or Murray would be tired after playing each other in the SF etc etc.

I'm quite happy if Rafa faces Djokovic so if he wins there can be no accusations of cakewalk or he didn't have to face Murray or Djokovic. However, given Djokovic has found his form/mojo again I see him as slight favourite so agree with JHM. I do wish it was Murray from a spectators point of view though.

In fairness most are assuming they get to their seeded places, but it gets boring stating this every time. I was never that confident and said so as soon as realised Murray had a good chance of playing Stan, simply because Stan's best is as good as Murray's

Novak seem's to have found his 'A' game just in time, although I noticed he dropped a set last night. If Stan plays at the same level as last night then it could be 5 sets like Aus

I'm genuinely pleased for Stan. He gets patronised by Fed and having a 'god' like fellow countryman playing at the same time as you, must have an impact. More importantly he has a game, that makes Berdych's and Del Potro's so limited, you scratch your head as to why Stan hasn't achieved more.

He's obviously decided to give it a proper go, hence the appointment of Norman and there is no reason why he can't have a couple of years like Norman's previous charge had

Stan decided to give it a go by first ditching his wife to concentrate on tennis
At first it didn't seem to be working, but it's paying dividends now.
There's a lesson there for all of us