2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread is continued...again

[Crimey]

First topic message reminder :

Four days left of the transfer window and still Arsenal, Manchester United and Newcastle still aren't moving quickly. The Bale deal still hasn't gone through, there is still speculation that Real Madrid may go back in for Suarez and Arsenal could break the transfer record. Tottenham have also decided to sign everybody.

Available at the moment seems to be a list of the players who were the best in the world five years ago:

Kaka 
Fernando Torres
Samuel Eto'o (until yesterday)

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Telegraph also convinced that Quagliarella is the player coming to West Ham. £300k loan fee. Silkman (who has dealings with us) is reportedly on a plane with a player coming over to London.

Could Quagliarella finally sign for us after more than 3 years of window's linked with us?! Can he finally leave Juve so that he isnt linked to EVERY middling English club?

Don't see him leaving Juve tbh mate

[Marky]

Best thing about supporting a side not in the Premier League?

Transfer Window closes today, loan window will be re-opened in about a week

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I love the loan window in the FL too, seeing those clubs being able to add one or two who could completely change their season. 

Sorry, Ent. I LOVE DEADLINE DAY. I am not sure he'll come Olly, but I just want someone to have some cover when Carroll is injured. Especially now Cole is out for a month and Downing for two or three weeks, our supply line will suffer so we need a better striker in support, and one that could also fill in on the wing would be grand.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Cant forget. 

Harry Redknapp moves for Jermain Defoe and Emmanuel Adebayor http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article3857869.ece

[The Special Juan]

Cant forget. 

Harry Redknapp moves for Jermain Defoe and Emmanuel Adebayor http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article3857869.ece

That is one horrifying emoticon.

[Marky]

Nick would cry if this happened

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-transfers-leonardo-ulloa-2244183?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Arnautovic has gone from Bremen to Stoke. Decent signing that

[Ent]

I love the loan window in the FL too, seeing those clubs being able to add one or two who could completely change their season. 

Sorry, Ent. I LOVE DEADLINE DAY. I am not sure he'll come Olly, but I just want someone to have some cover when Carroll is injured. Especially now Cole is out for a month and Downing for two or three weeks, our supply line will suffer so we need a better striker in support, and one that could also fill in on the wing would be grand.

I hate it, there's 2 plus months to do business no need for any deals to be done on the last day.

[Marky]

For Crawley Town, a successful deadline day is keeping our best players. If that happens, I can relax and watch Arsenal sign Alexis Sanchez for £55m at 11pm tonight.

[Marky]

I love the loan window in the FL too, seeing those clubs being able to add one or two who could completely change their season. 

Sorry, Ent. I LOVE DEADLINE DAY. I am not sure he'll come Olly, but I just want someone to have some cover when Carroll is injured. Especially now Cole is out for a month and Downing for two or three weeks, our supply line will suffer so we need a better striker in support, and one that could also fill in on the wing would be grand.

I hate it, there's 2 plus months to do business no need for any deals to be done on the last day.

Don't be such a wet blanket. It's the entertainment factor. Everyone would agree these deals should have been completed long ago, but the fact clubs leave it until the last minute is what makes it so dramatic to us fans.

[Ent]

I love the loan window in the FL too, seeing those clubs being able to add one or two who could completely change their season. 

Sorry, Ent. I LOVE DEADLINE DAY. I am not sure he'll come Olly, but I just want someone to have some cover when Carroll is injured. Especially now Cole is out for a month and Downing for two or three weeks, our supply line will suffer so we need a better striker in support, and one that could also fill in on the wing would be grand.

I hate it, there's 2 plus months to do business no need for any deals to be done on the last day.

Don't be such a wet blanket. It's the entertainment factor. Everyone would agree these deals should have been completed long ago, but the fact clubs leave it until the last minute is what makes it so dramatic to us fans.

It's false drama though, one thing I hate about modern football - all the dressing up and trying to create moments and drama.

The games exciting enough, just get on with watching the matches.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Anything that improves the dull midweek nights when no football is a godsend in my book!

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Arnautovic has gone from Bremen to Stoke. Decent signing that

Is a good signing, although by all means he sounds like an absolute thundercunt. 

I'm convinced Stoke are waiting to make deadline day moves, its in their nature. Pounce on some squad rejects.

Theres a few players who could get itchy trigger finger moves away from their clubs. The likes of Barry, Skrtel, Sessegnon etc. And theres a few clubs like Stoke, West Ham, Newcastle, Sunderland, WBA etc who will want maybe one or two more if they can.

[Crimey]

I love deadline day, think tomorrow could be a great one with Arsenal and Manchester United still yet to spend. Liverpool could be making three signings as well, expect Newcastle and Everton to be busy. I think QPR will make a big signing from the Premier League.

[owen10ozzy]

Whilst entertaining in some aspects on the grander scale I find it a hugely negative aspect on the game. When we talk about players being paid gross salaries and over inflated transfer fee's this is one thing which does nothing to stop it from happening....instead it play's right into the hands of the greedy men of football whose consistent wranglings throughout the summer all lead to this...

1 day where agents say 'oh so and so are also in for him...he want's X amount more'....

Chairmen slap on an extra few million knowing clubs will pay for them because they need numbers in the squad...

Unhappy players manufacture last minute moves away; forgetting all about the 5 year contract they signed 18 months prior.

It is a 24 hour frenzy of over-indulgence, massaging of player/club ego's and pampering which everyone savours and then will spend the next 11 months moaning about!

[Dr Gregory House MD]

I love deadline day, given my club usually spends no more than a few grand at most on a player, watching the silly money flying across the big European leagues is the footballing equivalent of porn for me.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Sorry, thats being negative for the sake of it. Enjoy football, enjoy the drama of this. We pay a lot of money for it. 

The open trade windows of years gone by did harm to stability of clubs. Benteke's form last year for example. Say Arsenal panic in February and throw money at him. Even if he doesnt move, it unsettles the player, he could then lose form and Villa are left with an unsavory situation that Arsenal have no need to deal with anymore. 

The contract point is certainly moot. The windows force clubs and players to deal with their situation. Dont get the move you want? Well, you aint going anywhere now so knuckle down. 

Let alone that this is one day! This isnt really a 24 hour frenzy, its a finish to a few months of work. The prices should be rising on the last day, theres less time to react to replace players. 

Funnily enough, I dont think one of your points is backed up by this "day" not existing. 

I mean, overpaid players and inflated transfer fees are Deadline Day's (I will give it capitals, its a jolly fun day) fault? Its a manufactured media event. 

God knows how long the Bale deal would have taken if there was no deadline!!

Whilst I can understand arguments for it to close earlier, the window is fair game for me. Speculation decreases in the press come the end. They know it doesnt sell their papers anymore, and we should all know by now that papers dont report these "stories" to keep us informed, this is another key aspect of business in the media industry. 

If you want anyone to chastise for the transfer debacles then you look straight to the media. 

I embrace it. Its entertaining, provokes debate and excitement and in many ways quite definitive. Good for players, agents, chairmen, managers and fans.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

[GSC]

Quagliarella to West Brom on loan now apparently

[westisbest]

For Villa, today will be more about what players leave us.
 
Hopefully we get rid of.
 
Bannan
Ireland
Hutton
Given
 
At best they might just be loaned out(sadly).

[GSC]

Bannana is off to Palace

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Quagliarella to West Brom on loan now apparently

That's another mid-table team chalked off for Quag

[westisbest]

Bannana is off to Palace

 
Sooner the better.

[Guest]

Quagliarella to West Brom on loan now apparently

That's another mid-table team chalked off for Quag

If we're lucky

[Guest]

Ozil is a world class player, £42.5m for him is a fair price, especially considering Bale cost £85m, Andy Carroll cost £35m etc. United should be all over that. Herrera is worth nowhere near £30m, whereas with Ozil you know he's going to win you games.

[Guest]

Er, where did John's post go?

[Bull]

United are in for Ozil according to SSN.

[x12x]

Manchester United are definitely not in for Mesut Ozil. The Premier League champions are, however, working hard to sign Everton's Marouane Fellaini and Athletic Bilbao midfielder Ander Herrera.

[Guest]

United are in for Ozil according to SSN.

SSN is a terrible channel, they just make stuff up to keep you watching.

[Guest]

Deleted message accidently had to type another.

United are after fellaini, there playing a game with talking with ozil representatives. Confirmed by sky, they've made no bid and are not intending to bid. Baines is going nowhere. Hopefully arsenal get ozil, good player but £42.5m is ridiculous pricing nowadays but that's what hes worth if you compare to other players I guess. Football fee are just getting out of control. Hopefully cabaye is staying at Newcastle.

[BamBam]

United are in for Ozil according to SSN.

SSN is a terrible channel, they just make stuff up to keep you watching.

Yep, I'm convinced they do a lot to influence betting on Sky Bet, simply by opening up markets then starting rumours on them

[NickisBHAFC]

Getting a lot of bites on twitter already this morning Good to see Arsensl cocking up another signing  

[Afro]

Fellaini to United is almost certain. I have heard the clubs have agreed a fee (although they didn't know how much) and that talks on personal terms had begun yesterday.

Also noticed a few media reports saying Everton wanted Zaha on loan as part of the deal, although there was absolutely no mention of Zaha from my mate.

How would United fans feel if their two TDD signings were Herrera and Fellaini (as is looking increasingly likely)

[BamBam]

Getting a lot of bites on twitter already this morning                              Good to see Arsensl cocking up another signing  

How cool are you!

[Duty281]

It makes me sad that Real Madrid buy Bale for a world record fee but are happy to let Ozil go, I'd rather have Ozil every day of the week. Bale has only just broken double figures in goals last year in the league for the first time. He's nowhere near the level Ronaldo was when he moved, and Ronaldo only got better. I can't see Bale justifying the price tag, he may make it up through shirt sales and merchandising etc. but the same could be said if they spent less on him or bought a less expensive player. Ronaldo just about justifies the price tag by scoring a goal a game on average, I can't see Bale hitting those heights.

Also £300k a week is absolutely ridiculous, I think that's more than Messi!

This.

Bale's had one very good season, and is suddenly worth £85 million? He'll doubtless do better in La Liga that the Premiership, like Ronaldo, because it's a lesser standard of football, but £85 million?!  

Tottenham are laughing all the way to the bank.

[GSC]

United are in for Ozil according to SSN.

SSN is a terrible channel, they just make stuff up to keep you watching.

Yep, I'm convinced they do a lot to influence betting on Sky Bet, simply by opening up markets then starting rumours on them

Exactly.

Trust the beeb a lot more, they have nothing to gain from making up rumours

[Guest]

Cazorla's nasty 'tackle' on Capoue yesterday took a bit of the shine off Spurs' impressive signings. For Spurs' sake they need him fit. Lamela looks like he's going to struggle with the colossal waste of space that is Kyle Walker supporting him. Walker had probably the worst game I've ever seen a RB have in a north London derby. Atrocious from start to finish.

[Hulking_up]

Liverpool Football Club is delighted to announce the season-long loan signing of Chelsea forward Victor Moses.

[Guest]

BBC says Albion are paying between £4m and £5m for Sessegnon. I'm okay with that. I want another striker, a RB and a GK now!

[TopHat24/7]

Ozil is a world class player, £42.5m for him is a fair price, especially considering Bale cost £85m, Andy Carroll cost £35m etc. United should be all over that. Herrera is worth nowhere near £30m, whereas with Ozil you know he's going to win you games.

Except both those deals were ridiculous rip-offs and massive over-valuations.

Ozil is class, be a great signing for Arsenal (though they need a CB and CF more) and incredibly frustrating if United miss out.

[TopHat24/7]

Fellaini to United is almost certain. I have heard the clubs have agreed a fee (although they didn't know how much) and that talks on personal terms had begun yesterday.

Also noticed a few media reports saying Everton wanted Zaha on loan as part of the deal, although there was absolutely no mention of Zaha from my mate.

How would United fans feel if their two TDD signings were Herrera and Fellaini (as is looking increasingly likely)

Would take that tbh, our midfield is in serious need of a freshen up. Fellaini for dynamism, grit and aerial threat, Herrera for some desperately needed creativity.

#freekagawa

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

In a sense i'd rather have Herrera and Feilaini to Ozil, we need central midfielders not another attacking midfielder. Ozil would be a nice luxury player to have but our need are greater elsewhere, or we could just buy all three with all the new sponsorship money we have.

[TopHat24/7]

Given we have Kagawa already (!!!!!!!) I'd agree, take Fel+Herr over just Ozil.

[GSC]

Kagawa is a myth

[Guest]

United need Ozil more than Herrera. You might have Kagawa, but he clearly isn't in your plans. Herrera isn't going to be the creative genius you need him to be, Ozil would be by far the better purchase.

[Afro]

Anichebe could make a move to WBA

[Guest]

No thanks, we need to score GOALS

[TopHat24/7]

Kagawa is a myth

What have you seen to come up with that?

Because it can't have been his United performances because he's never bloody played and it can't be his international or Dortmund careers as he's always looked exceptional there.

[TopHat24/7]

United need Ozil more than Herrera. You might have Kagawa, but he clearly isn't in your plans. Herrera isn't going to be the creative genius you need him to be, Ozil would be by far the better purchase.

If Kagawa isn't in our plans then Ozil won't be either, no matter how great he is. Moyes just doesn't seem to have any interest in playing creative midfielders, just 'safe' players and rubbish wingers.

[GSC]

Southampton took out Bales 25% sell on clause

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