2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread is continued...again

by **Crimey** Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:13 am

First topic message reminder :

Four days left of the transfer window and still Arsenal, Manchester United and Newcastle still aren't moving quickly. The Bale deal still hasn't gone through, there is still speculation that Real Madrid may go back in for Suarez and Arsenal could break the transfer record. Tottenham have also decided to sign everybody.

Available at the moment seems to be a list of the players who were the best in the world five years ago:

Kaka
Fernando Torres
Samuel Eto'o (until yesterday)

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:37 am

Who says Kagawa exists. Has anyone ever seen him in person?

by **Afro** Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:38 am

GSC wrote:Southampton took out Bales 25% sell on clause

Opportunism from Spurs wasn't it. Took advantage of Southampton's financial problems to renegotiate.

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by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:39 am

GSC wrote:Who says Kagawa exists. Has anyone ever seen him in person?

I heard someone say he was Ji-Sung Park masquerading as someone else.

by TopHat24/7 Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:39 am

They sold it for £3m because they were broke at the time and Bale wasn't considered worth much.

If you remember someone posted on here that there was talk of Spurs having to offer cash + Bale for Downing at one point, that's how lowly regarded Bale was a few years back.

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:40 am

Nobody ever saw Park at QPR and now he's 'fled' back to Holland.

We might have cracked this Azzy

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:43 am

GSC wrote:Nobody ever saw Park at QPR and now he's 'fled' back to Holland.

We might have cracked this Azzy

To be fair it was the BBC who cracked it, someone else posted that video Laugh

by **Afro** Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:45 am

I saw Kim Bo Kyung in the flesh for the first time at the weekend. Was very impressed with him

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:53 am

Ba on loan to Arsenal apparently

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:54 am

A lot of people tweeting that Ozil to Arsenal is pretty much done

by TopHat24/7 Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:55 am

GSC wrote:Ba on loan to Arsenal apparently

Good signing for Arsenal if so.

Ba on loan + Ozil would turn a mediocre window into a very good one.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:58 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
GSC wrote:Ba on loan to Arsenal apparently
Good signing for Arsenal if so.

Ba on loan + Ozil would turn a mediocre window into a very good one.

Agreed. If Giroud went down injured, they'd be left with Sanogo or Walcott up front. Now Ba could come in, he's a handy guy to have. Rumour is he turned down a loan move to Albion Sad

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:02 pm

We are apparently in talks with three players, all long shots, and also in talks to offload three.

And they reckon we've had contact with Carlton heart

who we could sign after the window if we fail with targets.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:03 pm

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by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:06 pm

GSC wrote:Southampton took out Bales 25% sell on clause

What do you mean, that Spurs had already bought them out?

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:07 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
GSC wrote:Southampton took out Bales 25% sell on clause
What do you mean, that Spurs had already bought them out?

According to the BBC live text today, yes. They got some youth goalie in exchange for cancelling the clause picard

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:08 pm

I'm still really not convinced by Ba, he did really well at West Ham and Newcastle, but then when Cisse came in he just cooled off, picked up his form again and at Chelsea was really poor. I suppose it's a low risk signing as a back up forward and he'll bag a few goals, but a massive step down from the forwards they had tried to sign. I assume Wenger is putting his faith in Giroud.

Good to see Liverpool seal the deals early. Hopefully Given will come in over the next couple of hours.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:08 pm

Not that exciting as of yet for Newcastle fans. Gomis is staying apparently, we must be offering a deal for Demba Ba too, however he would choose Arsenal every day of the week. Keep hearing about Tom Ince, as of yet no confirmation of any bid.

Fellaini to United is surely a done deal. I'm just waiting for some big deal to come out of the woodwork to spice things up. Everything is kind of known about at the moment, it's just a case of getting confirmation.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:10 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
GSC wrote:Southampton took out Bales 25% sell on clause
What do you mean, that Spurs had already bought them out?
According to the BBC live text today, yes. They got some youth goalie in exchange for cancelling the clause

Thats why I thought Spurs were being arsey because they had to give Southampton there cut?

I think they still get something like 0.5% - 1% anyway but still thats a bad clanger.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:11 pm

Apparently they got £2 million for developing the player.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:13 pm

Ozil is the big one of the day I think. United will snap up two midfielders too, but not on the scale of Ozil signing. Di Maria seems to be being touted around for PSG and Arsenal, with the French team offering more money (surprisingly).

Sakho is a great signing for Liverpool, thats cracking business.

(Edit: Apparently it was 25)

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:18 pm

Great tweet i've just seen that apparently Mike Ashley let Cabaye listen to Arsenal's phonecall over him. Apparently heard them say "£25m a lot for a reserve player" and it considerably changed his mood.

I mean, thats amazing if true and an amazingly creative lie if not.

by Bull Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:20 pm

Ozil is having an Arsenal medical according to Sky Sports

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:23 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Great tweet i've just seen that apparently Mike Ashley let Cabaye listen to Arsenal's phonecall over him. Apparently heard them say "£20m a lot for a reserve player" and it considerably changed his mood.

I mean, thats amazing if true and an amazingly creative lie if not.

If that's true, then no football club should ever do business with Newcastle again. That's a disgraceful way to conduct business Laugh

As an aside, I thought Flamini looked rubbish against Spurs. Clumsy, didn't offer anything, looked like he owned the place. Ozil coming in would shove him back in the reserves where he belongs.

by The Special Juan Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:23 pm

But where does Ozil fit in at Arsenal? Rolling Eyes

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:25 pm

His natural position.

Cazorla plays wider

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 pm

Good signing for Arsenal, finally got someone over the line. Think he's a very good player, is he worth £42.5m......no. If he's worth that, Cabaye is worth £25m+. You've got to think that this is the reason Arsenal will get him because every other player they've tried to get has been hijacked from them, but in this case, no other team is going to pay that amount of money. You probably wont agree but that's my opinion. Do i think Ozil really wanted to join Arsenal....not in my opinion. He knows he needs to play though, especially in a world cup year, so it's forced his hand.

Don't believe a word of that Cabaye tweet.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 pm

In the front four. Ozil, Cazorla, Walcott behind Giroud. I think Flamini did ok, hes a bit rough and tumble which they need in their squad. Got to consider hes not had the preparation of others for that game.

Good to see Bale confident and speaking some Spanish at the unveiling. Good luck to him.

by **owen10ozzy** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:28 pm

Who'd have ever thought the most expensive in the World would turn out to be Welsh.....!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 pm

Arsenal are confident of bringing in more than just Ozil and Viviano today.

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 pm

Ozil is worth every penny of 42.5m and a bit more compared to some other deals. World Class player, shone at the highest level.

by The Special Juan Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 pm

But then Arsenal have 0 work rate in their CM. Cazorla and Ozil are hardly going to be putting the challenges in.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Who'd have ever thought the most expensive in the World would turn out to be Welsh.....!

He'll never play in a world cup. Just bizarre to think really.

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:31 pm

Palace in talks over Guedioura. I'd rather hold onto him but if its funding Leadbitter than I'm not fussed

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:33 pm

The Special Juan wrote:But then Arsenal have 0 work rate in their CM. Cazorla and Ozil are hardly going to be putting the challenges in.

They shouldnt not buy Ozil cos they may need someone else. They should buy Ozil regardless, hes that good.

Daily Mail reporting that England will try to get Ilori to play for England as he was born in London.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:33 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Cazorla and Ozil are hardly going to be putting the challenges in.

Cazorla was getting his shins and studs in all over the place yesterday. He's a nasty little runt.

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:34 pm

The Special Juan wrote:But then Arsenal have 0 work rate in their CM. Cazorla and Ozil are hardly going to be putting the challenges in.

Neither are going to be playing CM, because Arsenal don't play a 4-4-2...

by The Special Juan Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:34 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:But then Arsenal have 0 work rate in their CM. Cazorla and Ozil are hardly going to be putting the challenges in.
They shouldnt not buy Ozil cos they may need someone else. They should buy Ozil regardless, hes that good.

Daily Mail reporting that England will try to get Ilori to play for England as he was born in London.

Then why aren't Utd trying to get him? Laugh

My head hurts now.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:36 pm

That's my point, United are not willing to pay over the odds for Ozil. That's why Arsenal have succeeded and failed with every other target apart from this one.

by The Special Juan Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:36 pm

GSC wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:But then Arsenal have 0 work rate in their CM. Cazorla and Ozil are hardly going to be putting the challenges in.
Neither are going to be playing CM, because Arsenal don't play a 4-4-2...

Yeah but the 2 "wide" players in a 4-3-3 (in midfield) aren't very wide. I call them CMs anyway.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:36 pm

Wales and Swansea defender Ashley Williams on Twitter: "All this fuss about Gareth Bale reminds me of my transfer from Hednesford Town to Stockport County."

Laugh

I expected Arsenal to try and get Song back in this window.

Ozil is an excellent signing. I'd rather have him than Bale.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:37 pm

Ozil's price is fine. He's in that tier below Messi and Ronaldo, alongside the Mullers, Schweinsteigers, Pirlos and Marchisios of the world. He's absolutely world class, so £42.5m is a good deal for Arsenal. He's their best player if he signs.

by **owen10ozzy** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:38 pm

John wrote:Good signing for Arsenal, finally got someone over the line. Think he's a very good player, is he worth £42.5m......no. If he's worth that, Cabaye is worth £25m+. You've got to think that this is the reason Arsenal will get him because every other player they've tried to get has been hijacked from them, but in this case, no other team is going to pay that amount of money. You probably wont agree but that's my opinion. Do i think Ozil really wanted to join Arsenal....not in my opinion. He knows he needs to play though, especially in a world cup year, so it's forced his hand.

Don't believe a word of that Cabaye tweet.

WHAT?! On the basis of Bale going for £85 million I would say Modric is a steal for half that. Has proved himself both in England and with one of the best teams in the world. I would say he has had a more consistent and better career than Bale so far (who lets face it had one exceptional season). He is also the same age so they get a player who has still to hit his peak.

When you see Carrol going for £35 mil, Milner £28 mil, Henderson £20 mil Arsenal should be arrested for theft!

Cabaye is worth no more than £20 million and I would argue that is being kind!

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:38 pm

Crimey wrote:Ozil is an excellent signing. I'd rather have him than Bale.

I wanted to say that earlier but was afraid everyone would laugh. Glad someone agrees. Bale is one-dimensional, Ozil has far more creative options under his belt. And doesn't dive either.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:39 pm

Yes, if Ozil is £42.5m, Fellaini should be £25m, Herrera £20m tops, and Cabaye something around £12m-£15m.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:39 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:But then Arsenal have 0 work rate in their CM. Cazorla and Ozil are hardly going to be putting the challenges in.
They shouldnt not buy Ozil cos they may need someone else. They should buy Ozil regardless, hes that good.

Daily Mail reporting that England will try to get Ilori to play for England as he was born in London.
Then why aren't Utd trying to get him? My head hurts now.

I would ask the same question! Although they have less need for him with Rooney and Kagawa, whereas Ozil is better than Podolski so he'll slot right in. Is Ozil better than Kagawa? Probably, but not £42m worth maybe.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:40 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
Crimey wrote:Ozil is an excellent signing. I'd rather have him than Bale.
I wanted to say that earlier but was afraid everyone would laugh. Glad someone agrees. Bale is one-dimensional, Ozil has far more creative options under his belt. And doesn't dive either.

He's also been consistently one of the best players in the world since 2010, Bale has had maybe two 6 month spells where he has looked at his best. Last year was the first time he'd scored more than 10 league goals in a season.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:41 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Ozil's price is fine. He's in that tier below Messi and Ronaldo, alongside the Mullers, Schweinsteigers, Pirlos and Marchisios of the world. He's absolutely world class, so £42.5m is a good deal for Arsenal. He's their best player if he signs.

Completely agree about his ability, however the price is the reason why Arsenal have signed Ozil and failed with everyone else. No one is going to pay that amount for Ozil. Why would Arsenal lose out on everyone else but succeed in this one?

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:42 pm

Ozil over Bale in the EPL? Some people's heads have gone completely.

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:46 pm

Ozil is available because of the Bale deal being completed late in the window.

Where's Olly. Ozil not being worth 42.5m is a serious #headsgone

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