2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread is continued...again

by **Crimey** Fri 30 Aug 2013, 11:13 am

First topic message reminder :

Four days left of the transfer window and still Arsenal, Manchester United and Newcastle still aren't moving quickly. The Bale deal still hasn't gone through, there is still speculation that Real Madrid may go back in for Suarez and Arsenal could break the transfer record. Tottenham have also decided to sign everybody.

Available at the moment seems to be a list of the players who were the best in the world five years ago:

Kaka
Fernando Torres
Samuel Eto'o (until yesterday)

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 4:50 pm

2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread is continued...again - Page 13 BTKwzS2IcAA-Dfg

Utd doing a good job of keeping their new signing secret

by **Hero** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 4:50 pm

http://www.scribd.com/doc/164813797/What-if-You-were-Jim-White-for-the-day

by Sam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 4:52 pm

Olly wrote:
Sam wrote:
NickisBHAFC wrote:How funny would it be if the Ozil transfer fell through?
I would laugh so hard. Anyone else feel Arsenal are paying over the odds for him? £42.5m?
Definately not. He's a genuinely world class player, who has done it at the top level. £42.5m is a great price to get him at in my mind

Fair enough, we will see how he gets on in the prem. I'm just thinking about Mata, Hazard, Silva, all around the 20-30m mark that's all.

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 4:53 pm

Pastore is over-rated, doesnt surprise me they want rid.

"PSG's Javier Pastore wins L'Equipe's poll for most overrated player in Ligue 1 ahead of Lyon's Yoann Gourcuff".....sums it up.

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 4:56 pm

John wrote:Pastore is over-rated, doesnt surprise me they want rid.

"PSG's Javier Pastore wins L'Equipe's poll for most overrated player in Ligue 1 ahead of Lyon's Yoann Gourcuff".....sums it up.

Context helps. Was that you saying that or David Beckham?

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 4:57 pm

Is Ozil £10m more expensive than Hazard, Mata, Silva.....of course not. Just the football financial world has been turned on it's head with this bale deal. Everyone is using bale as the barometer to compare deals. Bale should of been sold for £50m, thats the going rate for the top european players bar messi/ronaldo, just look at falcao and cavani. Ozil should be worth around £30m-£35m max. why do u think arsenal succeeded in signing him, because no one else wanted to pay that amount. Ozil is quality, pure class but he's not worth £40m+.

by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 4:58 pm

Gourcuff's making a comeback this season, mark my words Cool

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 4:58 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
John wrote:Pastore is over-rated, doesnt surprise me they want rid.

"PSG's Javier Pastore wins L'Equipe's poll for most overrated player in Ligue 1 ahead of Lyon's Yoann Gourcuff".....sums it up.
Context helps. Was that you saying that or David Beckham?

sorry that was L'Equipe'a poll they ran. apparently he is dire for psg and the reason they want rid.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:27 pm

Middlesbrough seem hell bent on signing players who aren't good enough for Norwich with Kei Kamara, Jacob Butterfield and Dani Ayala all off there apparantly (I quite like Butterfield, but he's never recovered from his injury)

by jbeadlesbigrighthand Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:28 pm

John wrote:Is Ozil £10m more expensive than Hazard, Mata, Silva.....of course not. Just the football financial world has been turned on it's head with this bale deal. Everyone is using bale as the barometer to compare deals. Bale should of been sold for £50m, thats the going rate for the top european players bar messi/ronaldo, just look at falcao and cavani. Ozil should be worth around £30m-£35m max. why do u think arsenal succeeded in signing him, because no one else wanted to pay that amount. Ozil is quality, pure class but he's not worth £40m+.

It's not just Bale, it's all the oligarch and oil money coming into football. Hulk, Cavani, Falcao have all gone for £40m plus in the last couple of years. Plenty more players have gone for more than £30m. Transfer fees are inflating because more teams have become billionaire's playthings.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:29 pm

If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd be more than happy with getting Ozil for £42.5 million, no matter what.

For me he's definately one of the Top 3 in the world at his position. Maybe even the best. I can't believe Madrid are letting him go tbh

by **Crimey** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:32 pm

Did anybody else realise that Anzhi resigned Samba, but have immediately sold him to a different Russian team who have signed six of Anzhi's players. Laugh

by NickisBHAFC Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:38 pm

AC Milan:
2003 - Buy Kaka for 8m from São Paulo.
2009 - Sell Kaka for 65m to Real Madrid.
2013 - Get Kaka back from Real Madrid for free

Nice Touch.

by GSC Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:38 pm

Hazard, Mata and Silva also weren't proven at the highest level, at the biggest club in the world.

(Mata and Silva also both played for a club thats effectively broke)

by whocares Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:41 pm

John wrote:
Azzy Mahmood wrote:
John wrote:Pastore is over-rated, doesnt surprise me they want rid.

"PSG's Javier Pastore wins L'Equipe's poll for most overrated player in Ligue 1 ahead of Lyon's Yoann Gourcuff".....sums it up.
Context helps. Was that you saying that or David Beckham?
sorry that was L'Equipe'a poll they ran. apparently he is dire for psg and the reason they want rid.

he had some good moments las tyear but god he was awful on saturday. just too lazy and uninterested. should be playing for the reserves if the coach had some balls.

by jbeadlesbigrighthand Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:49 pm

I don't know about anyone else, but the one transfer that interests me almost above all others is to see whether Arsenal manage to ditch Bendtner. From the sounds of it, they're contemplating paying another team to take him off their hands. If true would that be the first negative transfer in history? And why would they not just tell Bendtner that unless he accepts a transfer, they'll just Winston Bogarde him? As arrogant as he is, I can't imagine his professional pride would stand for that?

by NickisBHAFC Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:53 pm

Im still un-sure why Ozil would want to join Arsenal. Talk about a step down from Madrid! Fair play to Arsenal though, top top signing.

by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:54 pm

Ozil assisted 20 Ronaldo goals last season. That's impressive.

by The Terror of Tylorstown Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:55 pm

This the same biggest club in the world who haven't won the champions league for over 10 years and haven't been in the final for about as long?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:55 pm

Most places are a step down from Madrid. Arsenal are probably in the tier of clubs he was dropping down to.

by NickisBHAFC Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:56 pm

Hmmm United are the biggest club in this country without question, so im sure he would of joined them over Arsenal. I don't think United seemed that interested.

by whocares Mon 02 Sep 2013, 5:56 pm

Morgan Amalfitano on loan to WBA. Marseilles was struggling to offload this player but had to do something to be able to sign florian thauvin from Lille.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:02 pm

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
Sky Sources: Norwich in talks with West Ham over season-long-loan signing of Ricardo Vaz Te

Well it'd certainly be better than that Troisi fella we were linked with

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:02 pm

SSN say Vaz Te on loan to Norwich

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:02 pm

Twitter news starting up that Chelsea may be signing another striker with Ba leaving

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:05 pm

The depressing thing is that our number one target appears to be Ba. And hes also under interest from Arsenal. So, no one coming in Sad

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:09 pm

Can't say I see Vaz Te wanting to swap the West Ham bench for the Norwich one, don't see this one happening tbh

by CFCNick Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:20 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Twitter news starting up that Chelsea may be signing another striker with Ba leaving

Jose must have heard Vaz Te is available and is swooping for another hijack.

by GSC Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:43 pm

Shane Long to hold talks with Hull

by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:46 pm

Are WBA getting a striker in? They're short of goals as it is so must have something up their sleeve. Ba?

by westisbest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:50 pm

So we've signed Libor Kozak from Lazio.

C'mon now Paul, we have enough forward players.

Tom Ince would have been ideal. Another good young player.

by **Crimey** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:53 pm

Victor Anichebe is apparently the man West Brom are looking to bring in, presumably because he's a similar player to Lukaku. I'd rather have Long. £5 million for Anichebe apparently and would lead Everton to desperately search for a striker.

by **Crimey** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:03 pm

Crazy how late United are leaving it, I wouldn't be surprised to see Everton pull out if they don't have time to get a replacement in.

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:08 pm

I sincerely hope that Ed Woodwards head rolls at 11.01 tonight after being less than useless in the transfer window

Even Fellaini will be a poor bit of business as we're oviously going to end up paying more than his buyout clause at the beginning of summer

Very disappointing indeed

by The Terror of Tylorstown Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:13 pm

If we don't get both Feilaini and Herrera then we've had a shocking transfer window.

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:21 pm

finally Vaz Te is going!!!!

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:27 pm

assisting 17 league goals for ronaldo, higuain and benzema.......i'd expect him to be achieving at least that, seeing as real and barca roll over three quarters of the division, home and away by 3 or 4 goals each game. no way he will be achieving that servicing giroud and that's the difference. ozil is world class in that division, now i'd like to see him achieve it in the EPL. how many hat-tricks has ronaldo scored in the la liga compared to the EPL. shows the difference in competition.

as for united, fellaini and herrera.....not massively impressed with that to be honest. moyes isnt even being judged this year. i would of waited, give the young players time to develop that fergie left and then next year, more accessibe, quality targets would be available.

by ncfc_Tooze Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:29 pm

CF wrote:finally Vaz Te is going!!!!

Bid Rejected censored

by **Hero** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:30 pm

Hearing that Hererra deal to be announced very very soon.
Also seeing rumours Utd in for Coentrao.

by GSC Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:30 pm

Might be going insane, but I can't believe some are downplaying the Ozil signing. Fantastic player and only 24

by **Hero** Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:32 pm

For me that is the signing of the summer and I say that through gritted teeth.

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:32 pm

GSC wrote:Might be going insane, but I can't believe some are downplaying the Ozil signing. Fantastic player and only 24

I agree. Top signing.

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:35 pm

FreekShow wrote:
GSC wrote:Might be going insane, but I can't believe some are downplaying the Ozil signing. Fantastic player and only 24
I agree. Top signing.

Agree. If Willian can produce what I know he can, he could rival it. Other than that, EPL has not attracted what I would say 'wow' players.

by Fernando Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:36 pm

Spurs are in for Demba Ba.
Romelu Lukaku could be heading to Everton on loan

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:37 pm

Apparently, five year deal for Herrera agreed. £30m

by Guest Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:37 pm

Problem with that John I don't actually see our current squad as a top 4 team with Moyes at the helm, the last two performances have been shocking and we can't get RVP into the game for love nor money

Next year the quality targets may be out of reach if they are approached by a declining United side

by BamBam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:38 pm

In a couple of seasons we might be saying Herrera was a wow signing

by The Terror of Tylorstown Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:40 pm

Ozil is a fantastic player but he's not quite what they needed to start challenging the top three, attacking midfield is not an area they are short in, he'll improve them but not as much as other players in different positions.

by Fernando Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:41 pm

Chelsea reject offers for Ba from Arsenal/Spurs. Have accepted offer from unnamed club
Ba wants CL club only.

by Fernando Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:42 pm

The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:Ozil is a fantastic player but he's not quite what they needed to start challenging the top three, attacking midfield is not an area they are short in, he'll improve them but not as much as other players in different positions.

There's an easy way to look at it.

If Mesut Ozil is up for sale, You buy Mesut Ozil, He'd walk into 98% of sides in Europe. Get it done and move others along if you have to. Can never have too much quality

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