HC, Pool 2, Round 1: Toulon v Glasgow Warriors

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Toulon v Glasgow Warriors
 
13 October 2013, 16:00 local (15:00 BST)
Stade Félix Mayol, Toulon
 
Live on France 2
 
Referee: Greg Garner (England)
Assistant referees: Andrew Small (England), Robin Goodliffe (England)
Television match official: Graham Hughes (England)
 
A. Matchday Squads
 
1. Toulon
From:
Forwards: S. Armitage, Botha, Castrogiovanni, Chiocci, Felsina, Fernandez Lobbe, Hayman, Masoe, Noirot, Orioli, Rossouw, J. Smith, Van Niekerk, Williams.
 
Backs: D. Armitage, Bastareaud, Claassens, Giteau, Mermoz, Michalak, Mitchell, D. Smith, Tuisova, Wilkinson.
  
2. Glasgow
 
 Name/DOB/Position/Height/Weight/Played/Points
 
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Ascarate	Gabriel	20/10/87	Centre	1.85 m (6' 1")	94 kg (14 st 11 lb)	0	0
Bennett	Mark	03/02/93	Centre	1.83 m (6' 0")	89 kg (14 st 0 lb)	0	0
Brown	Fraser	20/06/89	Hooker	1.82 m (6' 0")	102 kg (16 st 0 lb)	0	0
Bryce	Kevin	07/09/88	Hooker	1.86 m (6' 1")	124 kg (19 st 7 lb)	0	0
Cusiter	Chris	13/06/82	Scrum half	1.78 m (5' 10")	84 kg (13 st 3 lb)	10	5
Dunbar	Alex	23/04/90	Centre	1.91 m (6' 3")	102 kg (16 st 0 lb)	3 (1)	0
Eddie	James	03/06/85	Back row	1.93 m (6' 4")	105 kg (16 st 7 lb)	4 (11)	0
Fusaro	Chris	21/07/89	Back row	1.80 m (5' 11")	94 kg (14 st 11 lb)	4 (8)	0
Grant	Ryan	08/10/85	Loose-Head Prop	1.85 m (6' 1")	109 kg (17 st 2 lb)	8 (7)	0
Gray	Jonny	14/03/94	Lock	1.98 m (6' 6")	119 kg (18 st 10 lb)	0	0
Hall	Doug	24/09/80	Hooker	1.83 m (6' 0")	104 kg (16 st 5 lb)	18 (9)	5
Harley	Robert	26/05/90	Back row	1.97 m (6' 6")	110 kg (17 st 4 lb)	13 (2)	5
Hogg	Stuart	24/06/92	Fullback	1.84 m (6' 0")	88 kg (13 st 12 lb)	10 (1)	5
Holmes	Tyrone	15/04/86	Back row	1.87 m (6' 2")	102 kg (16 st 0 lb)	0	0
Jackson	Ruaridh	12/02/88	Outside half	1.80 m (5' 11")	75 kg (11 st 11 lb)	14 (6)	109
Jericevich	Peter	13/02/88	Scrum half	1.78 m (5' 10")	80 kg (12 st 8 lb)	0	0
Kalman	Ed	07/12/82	Tight-Head Prop	1.88 m (6' 2")	119 kg (18 st 10 lb)	6 (19)	0
Kellock	Al	14/06/81	Lock	2.05 m (6' 9")	108 kg (17 st 0 lb)	35	10
Lamont	Sean	15/01/81	Centre/Wing	1.88 m (6' 2")	100 kg (15 st 10 lb)	12	40
Low	Moray	28/11/84	Tight-Head Prop	1.88 m (6' 2")	115 kg (18 st 1 lb)	25 (5)	0
MacArthur	Pat	27/04/87	Hooker	1.88 m (6' 2")	102 kg (16 st 0 lb)	8 (8)	0
Maitland	Sean	14/09/88	Fullback/Wing	1.89 m (6' 2")	97 kg (15 st 3 lb)	3 (1)	0
Matawalu	Niko	08/03/89	Scrum half	1.73 m (5' 8")	80 kg (12 st 8 lb)	2 (4)	10
McGuigan	Byron	20/08/89	Centre/Wing	1.93 m (6' 4")	92 kg (14 st 6 lb)	2 (1)	0
Murchie	Pete	07/01/86	Fullback	1.90 m (6' 3")	94 kg (14 st 11 lb)	9 (5)	0
Nakarawa	Leone	04/02/88	Lock	1.99 m (6' 6")	109 kg (17 st 2 lb)	0	0
Pyrgos	Henry	09/07/89	Scrum half	1.78 m (5' 10")	80 kg (12 st 8 lb)	5 (7)	5
Reid	Gordon	04/03/87	Loose-Head Prop	1.88 m (6' 2")	117 kg (18 st 5 lb)	2 (4)	0
Ryder	Tom	21/02/85	Lock	1.96 m (6' 5")	105 kg (16 st 7 lb)	5 (8)	0
Seymour	Tommy	01/07/88	Wing	1.83 m (6' 0")	95 kg (14 st 13 lb)	8	5
Strauss	Josh	23/10/86	Back row	2.00 m (6' 7")	114 kg (17 st 13 lb)	5	10
Swinson	Tim	17/02/87	Lock	1.93 m (6' 4")	111 kg (17 st 6 lb)	4 (2)	0
van der Merwe	DTH	28/04/86	Wing	1.82 m (6' 0")	92 kg (14 st 6 lb)	11 (1)	15
Vernon	Richie	07/07/87	Back row	1.96 m (6' 5")	102 kg (16 st 0 lb)	11 (3)	0
Weir	Duncan	10/05/91	Outside half	1.76 m (5' 9")	94 kg (14 st 11 lb)	6 (3)	64
Welsh	Jon	13/10/86	Tight-Head Prop	1.85 m (6' 1")	123 kg (19 st 5 lb)	14 (3)	0
Wight	Scott	05/11/85	Outside half	1.91 m (6' 3")	87 kg (13 st 9 lb)	1 (4)	12
Yanuyanutawa	Jerry	10/04/85	Loose-Head Prop	1.82 m (6' 0")	110 kg (17 st 4 lb)	0	0

 
B. Heineken Cup Statistics
 
1. Toulon
 

Played	16
Wins	12
Draws	0
Losses	4
Total Points For	415
Total Points Against	289
Total Tries For	40
Total Tries Against	25
Total Conversions For	31
Total Conversions Against	19
Total Penalty Goals For	48
Total Penalty Goals Against	42
Total Drop Goals For	3
Total Drop Goals Against	0

 

Most Appearances	15 (Jonny Wilkinson)
Top Points Scorer	178 (Jonny Wilkinson)
Top Try Scorer	4 (Delon Armitage)
Biggest Win	62 - 0 (v Sale Sharks 2012)
Heaviest Defeat	18 - 45 (v Munster Rugby 2010)
Most Consecutive Wins	5
Most Consecutive Defeats	2
Most Points In A Match	62 (v Sale Sharks 2012)
Most Tries In A Match	9 (v Sale Sharks 2012)
Most Conversions In A Match	7 (v Sale Sharks 2012)
Most Penalty Goals In A Match	7 (v Saracens 2013)
Most Drop Goals In A Match	1 (v Munster Rugby 2010)
Highest Attendance	55000
Total Home Attendance	305728

 
2. Glasgow
 

Played	85
Wins	26
Draws	2
Losses	57
Total Points For	1665
Total Points Against	2405
Total Tries For	159
Total Tries Against	275
Total Conversions For	112
Total Conversions Against	182
Total Penalty Goals For	210
Total Penalty Goals Against	212
Total Drop Goals For	7
Total Drop Goals Against	10

 

Most Appearances	41 (Gordon Bulloch)
Top Points Scorer	388 (Tommy Hayes)
Top Try Scorer	10 (Tommy Hayes)
Biggest Win	33 - 11 (v Gloucester Rugby 2009)
Heaviest Defeat	19 - 90 (v Leicester Tigers 1997)
Most Consecutive Wins	3
Most Consecutive Defeats	13
Most Points In A Match	50 (v Bourgoin 2006)
Most Tries In A Match	7 (v Bourgoin 2006)
Most Conversions In A Match	6 (v Bourgoin 2006)
Most Penalty Goals In A Match	7 (v Cardiff Blues 2001)
Most Drop Goals In A Match	1 (v Benetton Treviso 1998)
Highest Attendance	18720
Total Home Attendance	489762

 
C. Teams:
 
1. Toulon

 
15. Delon Armitage
14. Josua Tuisova
13. Maxime Mermoz
12. Matthew Giteau
11. David Smith
10. Jonny Wilkinson (capt)
9. Michael Claassens

1. Emmanuel Felsina
2. Jean-Charles Orioli
3. Martin Castrogiovanni
4. Bakkies Botha
5. Ali Williams
6. Juan Fernandez Lobbe
7. Joe van Niekerk
8. Chris Masoe

16. Benjamin Noirot
17. Xavier Chiocci
18. Carl Hayman
19. Steffon Armitage
20. Mathieu Bastareaud
21. Drew Mitchell
22. Frederic Michalak
23. Danie Rossouw
 
2. Glasgow
 
 
15. Sean Maitland
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Mark Bennett
12. Alex Dunbar
11. Niko Matawalu
10. Ruaridh Jackson
9. Henry Pyrgos

1. Ryan Grant
2. Dougie Hall
3. Jon Welsh
4. Jonny Gray
5. Al Kellock (Captain)
6. Tim Swinson
7. Chris Fusaro
8. Josh Strauss

16. Pat MacArthur
17. Moray Low
18. Ed Kalman
19. James Eddie
20. Richie Vernon
21. Duncan Weir
22. Byron McGuigan
23. DTH van der Merwe
 
D. Parliamo Glasgow:
 
Alphabetty Spaghetti - D.T.H. van der Merwe, wing
Angel - Gabriel Ascarate, centre
Angela - Jon Welsh, prop
Barry - Byron McGuigan, wing
Big Boab - (see Ginger Tackle Monster, the)
Big Mike - (see Coo, the)
Big Naka - Leone Nakarawa, lock/loosie
Bluto - Josh Strauss, loosie/no.8
Centre, the - (see Lesser Messiah, the)
Coo, the - Michael Cusack, prop
Cooseetah - (see Cus)
Cus - Chris Cusiter, scrum half
DTH - (see Alphabetty Spaghetti)
Flippy - (see Toonie)
Fozzy - Christopher Fusaro, loosie
Furra Lineeeee - Peter Horne, centre
Ginger Tackle Monster, the - Rob Harley, loosie
Guns - Tim Swinson, lock
Henners - Henry Pyrgos, scrum half
Hoggy - Stuart Hogg, full back/wing/centre
Ickle Jon - Jonny Gray, lock
Jedi - James Eddie, loosie
Lesser Messiah, the - Richie Vernon, loosie/no.8
Mark of Nazareth - (see Messiah, the)
Meatball, the - Duncan Weir, fly half
Messiah, the/ - Mark Bennett, centre
Niko - Nikola Matawalu, scrum half
Niko's Mate - Jerry Yanuyanutawa, prop
No Maits - Sean Maitland, wing
Rhubarb - Ruaridh Jackson, fly half
Ruck Inspector, the - Alastair Kellock, lock
Schlong - Sean Lamont, centre/wing
Sherlock - Tyrone Holmes, loosie
Shrek - Gordon Reid, prop
Toonie - Gregor Peter John Townsend MBE, head coach
Wee P - Pat MacArthur, hooker
Weegie from Fiji, the - (see Niko)

RDW_Scotland wrote:Ooft - the blues getting completely shafted by the chiefs!

To be fair to the Blues, they've just scored three tries in a 15 minute come back but the Chiefs had the bonus point in the bag by the half hour mark AND they've had two players sin binned. Honestly, some commentators seem to be blinded by stars and Lions. Jezzabel Guscott in his BBC column is confident that the best games of this pool will be between Blues and Toulon. I mean, WTF?

Is Asbo watching this?  

Guscott knows nothing about the Rabo teams and hates scottish teams

anyone with any knowledge will know Glasgow / Toulon are going to be the games in this group

Did you guys read Guscott's 'guide to the HC pools' on the Beeb website?

Practically every 'player to watch' is just the player that Guscott has heard of, most often the resident Lion.
Castres? Richie Gray.
Leinster? BOD.
Racing Metro? Jonny Sexton
Perpginan? This is my favorite... James Hook.

The days of incisive journalism are over. It's sports reporting by the numbers, to the lowest common denominator.

The Planet Rugby pool guide was similarly mindless - the predictions were based entirely on league form. Glasgow are 5 from 5, which is better than Cardiff's 2 from 5. So that means that Glasgow will do better than Cardiff will. Nothing about how the two teams will play against each other (or even that the two teams already played each other this season and it was bloody close). No, just journalism by and for the lobotomised.

Orioli is out injured which means Toulon will only have on hooker (Noirot)

Gonna be a tough ask for Glasgow. Not beyond hope tho - and the defense is so good this year that should give them a chance. I'd prefer Niko at 9 than 11 but can understand why. Pyrgos has been good so far this season anyway.

Those Glasgow shirts aint good quality. Poor jonny gray has to change his after 30 secs!

whocares wrote:Orioli is out injured which means Toulon will only have on hooker (Noirot)

Is that allowed?

TJ wrote:

whocares wrote:Orioli is out injured which means Toulon will only have on hooker (Noirot)

Is that allowed?

Apparently Castro would move to hooker if needed be.

Try look ok to me

Looked like something happened then, yep that's knocked on

Slight knock on in the interception apparently. Toulon very lucky here.

Ahhhh, bugger it.

Niko is on it today.

What a kick in the teeth, from almost having the first try to going all the way back to the scrum then conceding an easy penalty.

nice catch by Wilko to set up that try. Giteau also involved with a great pass.

Long afternoon ahead?

Christ, can this commentator get his hand out of Wilko's trousers?

Glasgow doing well with ball in hand. Need more patience. Like their scrum half as well.

If that wasn't an off his feet steal i don't know what is.

Toulon were well off their feet many times in that passage of play.

Good hands but forward maybe?

This is ominous

Toulon  

Ref giving glasgow nothing. The amount of infringments when glasgow were on the Toulon 5m line.

Although I'm pretty sure we should have had a penalty about 5/10m out from their try line. Getting cart blanche at the ruck a bit aren't Toulon.

This is pathetic reffing absolutely outrageous.

Getting nowt off the officals. that was so clearly forward.

Interestingly the ref being not sure awards the try nervertheless...

Notch if Toulon makes you puke, suggest to watch something else. There is no point in making yourself sick!

Toulon entering rucks whichever sides they want to.

How did Delon Armitage have the luck of being picked for this team? Not even in the same league as their other backs.

Don't whine about the refs. Its unseemly from a scots fan. Who do you think you are?

123456789 wrote:How did Delon Armitage have the luck of being picked for this team? Not even in the same league as their other backs.

He has JIFF status having spent some of his youth in Nice...

If this Toulon side was in a Barbarians jersey, I'd be loving it. When you see a side with just three players from their home country, you have to think that is very bad for European rugby in general.

Notch wrote:If this Toulon side was in a Barbarians jersey, I'd be loving in it. When you see a side with just three players from their home country, you have to think that is very bad for European rugby in general.

That's your opinion Notch and has to be respected. Thanks for caring about France (not sure about the impact on european rugby) , very nice of you

Oh dear.

Don't know what Glasgow can do here, impose a European salary cap at half time?

My bet isn't looking so good now...

I have to stop watch because I can't take too much more of Dewi Morris!  

So we've conceded more tries in half an hour then we have in the league so far  

The French are right about The Rabo teams having an adavantage. I mean we have to home grow our players. Its really unfair that the likes of Toulon have to go out and buy the best players from around the world.

Did Glasgow ever stand a chance?
NO!
Plain and simple, all they have done is caught a few Pro12 teams cold at the start of the season then all of a sudden shoe in for HC glory!

Typical Scottish rugby starved of success then a crumb falls their way then it's drinks all round.

matawalo has to go to 9, we need a bit more beef in the forwards

RDW_Scotland wrote:My bet isn't looking so good now...

nothing is looking good now  

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Did Glasgow ever stand a chance?
NO!
Plain and simple, all they have done is caught a few Pro12 teams cold at the start of the season then all of a sudden shoe in for HC glory!

Typical Scottish rugby starved of success then a crumb falls their way then it's drinks all round.

Should you not be at school? Oh its sunday? what is the point of thjis childish post? Just to wind folk up? classy

I wish Glasgow would stop kicking the ball

Is that Ali Williams playing alongside Botha in the second row?

Yes that's him offside

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Is that Ali Williams playing alongside Botha in the second row?

Yes, yes it is

Amazing the difference 1 tiny little knock on makes. We had a 10 point swing 5 minutes in and have never really looked in it since then.

Williams and Botha in the second row!!
No team would match that.

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Williams and Botha in the second row!!
No team would match that.

And Rossouw on the bench...

Johnny Wilkinson goes off Freddie Michalak comes on for Toulon.
Alex Dunbar goes off Byron McGugin comes on for Glasgow..!

Such contrast.