Euro Division LXVII

by **Afro** Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:24 pm

First topic message reminder :

606V2 EURODivision

Announcements

Event: The great 606v2 meet up extravaganza
Date: Saturday 26 October 2013
Location: London
Venue: TBC, likely a sports bar
Time: 1900 onwards
Attending: Azzy + Viva + Sodhat + Marky + Nando (maybe), Olly, cherries others TBC

Season 1 Starts this week
Tactics due by 11.59pm on Friday 16th August

Tactics are sent to Olly

Votes are sent to sodhat. Votes must be in by 11:59pm on Monday of the appropriate gameweek.

The Enrique & J from 5ive League

FC WHU Do You Think You Are - Gregers

Tactics

Bilbao - Afro

Injuries

Would you dance, if Ajax you to dance? - Sodhat

Lawyers

Southampton FC - Marky

Fixtures

PSV - CF

Table

Sport Club Corinthians Paulista - Nando

Top Scorers

Lille - Trebs

Glad t'be bach - Hero

FC Basel - Viva

FC ZwagAtletico - Zinedine_Ze_Zebra

The Nodge - Olly

Fool 'em FC - Azzy

by Guest Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:39 pm

right fine find someone else then, i dont need the grief i submitted tactics and votes, its supposed to be a game not the end of the bloody world.

by GSC Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:43 pm

Who had week 1 in the "CF has a paddy and leaves" pool then

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:43 pm

YI Man fancy taking PSV?

by Y I Man Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:44 pm

Olly wrote:YI Man fancy taking PSV?

I knew that was coming Laugh

by Bull Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:47 pm

CF wrote:right fine find someone else then, i dont need the grief i submitted tactics and votes, its supposed to be a game not the end of the bloody world.

That did not last long did it?

Warned you guys.

by Y I Man Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:49 pm

CF, as a compromise, why dont you give some cash to the guy who got you as manager as you didnt have time to do full results which meant he didnt get his bonus, then everyone is happy?

by GSC Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:49 pm

You warned everyone about something everyone knew would happen. Well done.

Can't we learn the lesson and just not keep letting CF do this

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:50 pm

CF wrote:right fine find someone else then, i dont need the grief i submitted tactics and votes, its supposed to be a game not the end of the bloody world.

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by Bull Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:54 pm

Indeed GSC!

Next advice for you. Don't let CF join back again.

by Marky Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:04 pm

Olly wrote:Well played Marky, must admit when I saw the tactics I thought I was in for a right spanking

Was kind of banking on you going 4-4-2

I pretty much did. More of a 4-4-2 diamond though. Who says 4-4-2 is dead Whistle

Must win game for me this week though. Gladbach will be a tough game.

by Marky Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:16 pm

I have to mention this bit of feedback;

if keepers mattered, Schwarzer would be a huge weak link

Just because he's old, he was purposely brought into Chelsea FC this summer by Jose Mourinho to give Petr Cech some serious competition for once. Obviously you know better than Jose Wink

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:18 pm

Actually only brought in after they failed to get Big John. And this is the same Mourinho who loaned out Lukaku Wink

UNICORNS, SHOW PONIES, WHERE'S THE BEEF?

by Marky Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:42 pm

Poland drop Boruc for Szczesny, and Lewandowski starts. Gonna be a cracking game if nothing else, and for once English fans care about England because they're nervous! Can't wait to see this game.

Got Lewandowski to score first at 9/1 although more of a punt than a prediction. Arguably the best player on the pitch tonight so 9/1 is a big price!

by Marky Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:43 pm

England side:

Hart

Smalling - Jagielka - Cahill - Baines

Carrick - Gerrard

Townsend - Rooney - Welbeck

Sturridge

by Guest Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:47 pm

Dreadful decision to play Smalling over Jones and Carrick over, say, anyone. I fully expected Milner over Welbeck to help Baines deal with Blaszczykowski too.

One long night coming up.

by Marky Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:48 pm

England are going for it. Although I agree to an extent, I'd have gone;

Hart

Jones - Jagielka - Cahill - Baines

Gerrard - Wilshere - Milner

Sturridge - Rooney - Welbeck

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:55 pm

Very surprised with Smalling ahead of Jones at RB, can't say I'm surprised Lampard was dropped didn't think he was good against Montenegro.

Time for Carrick to prove the fanboys correct.

by Marky Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:55 pm

Oh yeah. This.

Event: The great 606v2 meet up extravaganza
Date: Saturday 26 October 2013
Location: London
Venue: TBC, likely a sports bar
Time: 1900 onwards
Attending: Azzy + Viva + Sodhat + Marky + Nando (maybe), Olly, cherries others TBC

I wont be attending now. Instead I'll be going out in Crawley dressed as Super Mario. Halloween based night out with my wife on what's basically a glorified triple date.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:58 pm

I've got work, and you know I don't live anywhere near London

by **Afro** Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:21 pm

The Poland side is fairly poor. There's not much beyond Lewandowski and Kuba and even then Lew hasn't performed for Poland like he does for Dortmund

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:31 pm

This Turkey vs Holland game is really good.

by Fernando Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:32 pm

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by **Afro** Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:27 pm

Townsend looks a world beater for England!!!

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:01 pm

Smalling does not look comfortable at RB. There Azzy goes again bashing Carrick before he has kicked a ball but praises the English Park Ji Sung.

We need to move on from the workhorses and players who put in a shift.

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:02 pm

England lack a leader at the back, good defenders Jagielka and Cahill but they need a Rio or Terry to stabilise and take control.

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:11 pm

Surprise surprise Azzy slates Carrick + other Man United players. Azzy #1Dimensional #1D #TunnelVision

Carrick's been terrible, can't hack it and by 'it' I mean tackling, passing and running on a football pitch. Gerrard is having to carry him and do it for him and by 'it' I mean tackling, passing and physically picking him up to move him around the pitch. Should of left him in the changing room at HT, England would be better off with 10 men than Carrick.

Welbeck & Sturridge have been too wasteful. Both have had a few chances & done nothing.
Andros looks good, can see him taking Lennon's place at club & country. Starting to look better than Walcot.

Anyone want Carrick, he's up for sale.

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:25 pm

People like Azzy are the type that spend most their time making their Uni assignment look creative with the borders and fonts eyecatching basically. If a player is not doing 2 billion stopovers or the Ronaldo job he is useless according to Azzy.

Azzy fails to recognise that Carrick job is to protect the back four he is not a diving in both feet with slide tackle type of who wants to look good in front of the cameras. He is a very smart and intelligent player who reads the game well and intercepts danger hence the high rate of interception. He keeps possession well and looks to move it forward for the more attacking players. He goes and and does his job quietly without much fuss and whoring himself to the papers like some England players. Players like Carrick are too technical for England's nethandral style of play and they would be better of playing Parker so Azzy and his chums can watch an all action headless chicken kicking players.

I would take Carrick in a heartbeat Mr furious and I'd be willing to pay over the odds but because Azzy has created a hate campaign propaganda against Carrick and has brain washed the rest with his fairy tales and myths like Piers Morgan does I have to refuse. Azzy has tarnished Carrick name but is the first to jump in the line of fire for donkey James Miller saying he should play for England. Is that what you lot want honest boring hardworking committed players.

by **Hero** Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:26 pm

He's been subbed.

by **Afro** Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:33 pm

Nice generalisation there by Viva.

There's quite a lot of love for Carrick in this league.

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:35 pm

Hero wrote:He's been subbed.

Because Hodgson is a old fashioned man, I would love to see his stone age methods. If I could put my brain in Woy I can better anything he has done. He is outdated and probably uses letters instead of emails.

Hodgson alongside many of the boot licking England managers in the past have bowed down to the media pressures and stick to the failed and unworkable Gerrard and Lampard system. Don't get me wrong I rate them two highly and in their pomp were top players who could hold their own against any player but the fact is they don't work but the stupid English managers with no backbone still play them.

by GSC Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:36 pm

Carrick sucks

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:37 pm

England getting stretched, can't seem to hold the ball, players rushing into tackles giving needless fouls. We need a player who cN protect the back four and keep possession...... Oh wait.

by GSC Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:39 pm

We needed that when we were in Montenegro too. I actually forgot Carrick played that day

by Fernando Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:40 pm

general question Viva, If we don't want workhorses in the side why is Danny Welbeck playing? He sure as hell ain't a left winger and he ain't in there on footballing ability.

by GSC Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:41 pm

He is a United player though Nando, which overrides everything else

by Fernando Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:43 pm

2-0 Gerrard

by **Afro** Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:44 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:England getting stretched, can't seem to hold the ball, players rushing into tackles giving needless fouls. We need a player who cN protect the back four and keep possession...... Oh wait.

I lke Carrick but that was happening when Carrick was on the pitch and the Poles were going through them too easily. That is why Carrick was taken off because he was no longer doing his job. It was him or Gerrard and Gerrard needed to stay on to score the second goal

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:45 pm

Carrick came on for England on the 65m against Montegro.

Nando that is a valid question and I will reply, Welbz has been on a good goal scoring record for England lately and I'm sure anyone would take a workhorse who gets goal but if he plays like he has did today then he deserves to be dropped.

Afro I feel my post was very fair.

Nice goal Gerrard.

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:47 pm

GSC wrote:He is a United player though Nando, which overrides everything else

I do the odd wum here and there but if a United player is not playing well I will say it. It has nothing to do with what club you play for. I think Ash Cole has been a wonderful servant for England a fine fine defender and one of the best fullbacks for club and country and one of the few England players who can retire knowing he played good for us.

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:51 pm

Afro wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:England getting stretched, can't seem to hold the ball, players rushing into tackles giving needless fouls. We need a player who cN protect the back four and keep possession...... Oh wait.
I lke Carrick but that was happening when Carrick was on the pitch and the Poles were going through them too easily. That is why Carrick was taken off because he was no longer doing his job. It was him or Gerrard and Gerrard needed to stay on to score the second goal

Yes it was there and I won't dare arguing that you're wrong but you can't expect Carrick to do it all on his own just like you can't expect Cahill to stop the ball going in on his own. It seemed worse when Carrick went off. Afro you're a sensible man and won't get swayed by Mahmood and Co's lies.

by Fernando Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Ghana 6 Egypt 1 < I could play for Egypt the way their going angel

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by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:56 pm

Sodhat and below are too young to remember France 98 but I do and I'm sure Afro and Hero will tell you the sickening and undeserved criticism Beckham took after Argentina was wrong and disgusting.

An I know that Azzy Mahmood was the ring leader of burning effigies of Beckham and chanting such nasty songs. I can guarantee that he was also the first one to celebrate Beckham goal against Greece and pretending like nothing happened.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:59 pm

I like Carrick for Utd.

For England he's not been good enough. End of

by Fernando Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:01 pm

Fernando's Fact Of The Day

Viva was one caught having a five knuckle shuffle over the fat chick on Geordie Shore

#LowerStandardsThenOlly

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:01 pm

Olly wrote:I like Carrick for Utd.

For England he's not been good enough. End of

Can say the same for most players that have played for England since 2000.

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:02 pm

Afro wrote:Nice generalisation there by Viva.

There's quite a lot of love for Carrick in this league.

Nah, its 60/40 ish. Only really me, viva, trebs & you who appreciate what he does.

If you don't score goals (attackers), assist them (attackers/attacking mids/), prevent them (keepers or centre backs) or are not Spanish you get ignored. Most people don't appreciate how good Makelele was. Someone last week had the nerve to question how good Zidane was!!
Some people hear are happy to use the comparison of Carrick to Xavi or Carrick to Pirlo to put him down but you wont see them compare Walcott to El Shaarawy or Jack Wilshere to Isco as it wont help them make a point.

Welbeck is probably playing because we have no other half decent left winger. Unless you prefer Ashley Young playing LW.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:03 pm

I don't mind Welbeck, if only he could add a finish to his game he'd be class

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:13 pm

Didn't Olly say yes to dating a tranny.

Just for the record I don't watch shows like big brother or the only way is Essex. I only found out recently that TOWIE stands for The Only Way is Essex.

by FIFA Diva Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:14 pm

Infact I thought they were two completely different shows.

Nicely said Nick about comparing Wilshere to the likes of Isco/Pogba.

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:20 pm

Afro wrote:I lke Carrick but that was happening when Carrick was on the pitch and the Poles were going through them too easily. That is why Carrick was taken off because he was no longer doing his job. It was him or Gerrard and Gerrard needed to stay on to score the second goal

So instead of Gerrard dropping back a bit to assist him Woys solution was to take Carrick off for Lamps & get both Gerrard & Lamps to sit back. Gerrard got forward twice after Lamps came on, once was to take a corner & the other for the goal. Everyone knows Gerrard is dangerous up the field & more effective.
Lamps is the same mould of player. They have never worked together well in what, 8-10 years for England? They cant now. They cant work together in tandem as a double pivot as their not on that type of wavelength with each other + as they are getting older those bursting runs to get forward then back into position get harder.
Woy wanted to tighten it up, fair enough. I felt Welbeck would of been better to take off & bring on the energetic Barkley- so carrick would either have him of Gerrard alongside & Sturridge & Rooney had support from the other.

Said before & ill say it again, Welback & Sturridge both wasteful today. Welbeck tried hard but lacks a true strikers instinct. Sturridge tried too hard to be the big man, top dawg, show stopper, several times he should of been passing but instead he wants to try take 1/2 mans on & just shoot from where ever. Two shots he had on target were just power shots right at the keeper, needs more composure to pick a placed finish & a bit more team play IMO & he would then have the potential to become an extremely deadly attacker a top elite club would want.

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