Euro Division LXVII

First topic message reminder :

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The Enrique & J from 5ive League
 
FC WHU Do You Think You Are - Gregers
 
Bilbao - Afro
 
Would you dance, if Ajax you to dance? - Sodhat
 
Southampton FC - Marky
 
PSV - CF
 
Sport Club Corinthians Paulista - Nando                                                                              
 
Lille - Trebs
 
Glad t'be bach - Hero
 
FC Basel - Viva
 
FC ZwagAtletico - Zinedine_Ze_Zebra
 
The Nodge - Olly
 
Fool 'em FC - Azzy

Actually what's happening is Viva's starting his own supermarket, so he doesn't have to pay over the odds. Problem is, the other supermarkets have a stranglehold on the good products from the farmers and companies like Cadburys, so he's going to be left with turds on his shelves.

These aren't like the pretend manager games of old. Because they are based on TM values players now have base values that you have to work with when doing deals. There isn't any room for how highly you rate players these days, as a minimum you have to go by TM values.

Will accept following

Vidic = 15m his lawyer price or decent P/EX
Muriel =12.5m or decent P/Ex

It's basic economics really
 
How much is someone worth? A combination of whatever they can get for them and how much it would cost to replace them.
 
What can they get for them? - lawyers equivalent if they are lucky. The risk of not getting a lawyers offer brings it down a little, but no more than TM value as that is the cost of replacing them essentially, and therefore the point that it becomes a better value to keep them.
 
The game has moved on with the use of TM values. It's a modern version of pretend managers, but Viva is still stuck in the hoofball era of 3 years ago

 

I don't agree with TM there is so much else that it fails to take note of.  Some players are worth lot more than TM value,  why is Marky wanting 15m for Totti when his TM value is 875k.


If I really wanted a player I'd pay the money,  I've paid 30m for Mongolian and 22m for Pablo Hernandez in the past.  I have no issue spending money on the right player but I won't be forced to deal and pressured by other pretend managers who would do the same.  There is no value in the local market and I'd much rather my money go into foreign hands knowing that it can't be used by the locals.

You are right Viva, except you are ignoring the selling club's perspective and why they ask those prices. Because the TM value is kind of the minimum they are going to get

And Marky's example is where he is putting it above TM value. It's not quite the same as selling below TM value is it.

But sending cash of the league is a sound principle, although don't expect that to mean you are getting better value for money than paying TM value for someone in the league

I'd probably accept less than the TM value on Bernard!

I'd accept less than the TM value for Neil Etheridge.

I'd accept a quid for Andrew Surman

Hero wrote:I'd probably accept less than the TM value on Bernard!

& whoever buys him will probably get a Lawyer offer the first week of owning him

Would any of you sell Totti for his TM value?

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

Hero wrote:I'd probably accept less than the TM value on Bernard!

& whoever buys him will probably get a Lawyer offer the first week of owning him

It would be a nailed on certainty to happen!
It's like always picking the same numbers on the lottery, you know the week you stop picking those numbers it's guaranteed to come up with those numbers.

Marky wrote:Would any of you sell Totti for his TM value?

Yeah. He's been terrible this year and a cert to retire in January......


No, I wouldn't

owenslotTheTimes ‏@owenslot
Jamaican drugs-testers took 6 months off in lead-up to 2012 Olympics. Astonishing, humiliating and late discovery

Rut oh

Hero wrote:I'd probably accept less than the TM value on Bernard!

I can stretch to £7.5m?

Hero wrote:

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

Hero wrote:I'd probably accept less than the TM value on Bernard!

& whoever buys him will probably get a Lawyer offer the first week of owning him

It would be a nailed on certainty to happen!
It's like always picking the same numbers on the lottery, you know the week you stop picking those numbers it's guaranteed to come up with those numbers.

How much you want for him?

His TM is 17.5m so he'd get (eventually) a lawyer offer of 19.5m, I'd probably accept 16m.

I'm a nice guy and have been very patient with CF.  Last week I informed him off our game that needs to be rearranged for the 17th of October.  He has been on this site many times during my post on his page and he has even posted as well.  

I don't like it when people do that at least have the courtesy to reply to what I said. I'll be handing in tactics and if CF does or does not I don't care at all.  Thank you

Agreed Viva. Your game with CF is this week

That's good.

Every toy comes with a free Frogurt!

VivaPaulScholes wrote:That's good.

The Frogurt is also cursed.

That's bad.

But it comes with a choice of three toppings!

That's good!

The toppings are made from sodium benzoate.

......

That's bad.

(c) The Simpsons

 Simpsons when Homer is in that strange mystical shop. Is that one of the Haloween eps again? Damn it I cant remember yet I have all the box sets on dvd (ones that are out).
There going to kill someone off this season, William Hill are taking bets on it lol

Right, plenty of players available for cash from Bilbao as I am raising cash to complete the Neymar deal

Offers on my page for TM or upwards please

Hang on. Is Afro signing Neymar for £40m when there's a £50m lawyers offer?

It's called the Viva principle where you don't pay a premium and pay under TM value if that is what you value them at.

I'd argue it's also called this;

Transfers that are stacked heavily in one party's favour may be reviewed by the runners and cancelled if it is held that it is unfair for it to stand.

His TM value is £44m. £40m is hardly heavily stacked in anyone's favoured.

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote: Simpsons when Homer is in that strange mystical shop. Is that one of the Haloween eps again? Damn it I cant remember yet I have all the box sets on dvd (ones that are out).
There going to kill someone off this season, William Hill are taking bets on it lol

It's a Halloween one, where Homer forgets Bart's birthday and buys this Krusty doll that tries to kill him because he's set to "Evil".

If Viva is stupid enough to sell Neymar for £40m, I say we let him. However I know he's a sly old fox, so there's no chance Uncle Afro pulls a swift one.

Afro wrote:His TM value is £44m. £40m is hardly heavily stacked in anyone's favoured.

Au contraire. A title rival signing someone for £10m cheaper than the seller would get normally would be unfair to the rest of us.

Not really sure Ballbag are title rivals, are they?

Quiet you.

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Not really sure Ballbag are title rivals, are they?

Maybe not, but then I guess that rules out Fool Em and Ajax as well, as they are on the same points Only teams with more points than me are title challengers then, which is......

In all seriousness, why would Viva accept £40m for a player when he has an offer of £50m on the table from Lawyers? If he's so serious about making Basel a great team, he should be looking at taking the biggest offer.

Afro wrote:

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Not really sure Ballbag are title rivals, are they?

Maybe not, but then I guess that rules out Fool Em and Ajax as well, as they are on the same points :raspberry:Only teams with more points than me are title challengers then, which is......

I meant title rivals of Marky's, you sonofabeatch

Even he got that  

sodhat wrote:

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote: Simpsons when Homer is in that strange mystical shop. Is that one of the Haloween eps again? Damn it I cant remember yet I have all the box sets on dvd (ones that are out).
There going to kill someone off this season, William Hill are taking bets on it lol

It's a Halloween one, where Homer forgets Bart's birthday and buys this Krusty doll that tries to kill him because he's set to "Evil".

BOOM thats the one. I knew it was a Halloween one. Oh I do love the Simpsons. I did my media studies coursework on The Simpsons, my teacher loved it, said it was a great topic to use as it contains all aspects of real life. Probably the best piece of work I every did in school.

 Sorry. Straight over my head.

I found my uni marks the other day, the best I got in three years was a 69 while studying Monty Python and the Holy Grail. During my history degree

2 points behind with 3 matches to go suggests otherwise. Although when Southampton lose to Nodge you can make that point

Marky wrote:2 points behind with 3 matches to go suggests otherwise. Although when Southampton lose to Nodge you can make that point

I'll do it in advance, save myself some time

Azzy Mahmood wrote:I found my uni marks the other day, the best I got in three years was a 69 while studying Monty Python and the Holy Grail. During my history degree

Damn, I went through 3 years of college and didn't even get a hand job.

sodhat wrote:

Azzy Mahmood wrote:I found my uni marks the other day, the best I got in three years was a 69 while studying Monty Python and the Holy Grail. During my history degree

Damn, I went through 3 years of college and didn't even give a hand job.

 
You couldn't have taught at Azzy's uni then

Soddy you must look like the Predator

Marky wrote:2 points behind with 3 matches to go suggests otherwise. Although when Southampton lose to Nodge you can make that point

WOAH LESS OF THAT

Afro wrote:

sodhat wrote:

Azzy Mahmood wrote:I found my uni marks the other day, the best I got in three years was a 69 while studying Monty Python and the Holy Grail. During my history degree

Damn, I went through 3 years of college and didn't even give a hand job.

 
You couldn't have taught at Azzy's uni then

My original post was true, your edited version isn't.

Is Azzy allowed to ignore deals I make?  If so I'll be ignoring his tactics and will vote 5-0 against him each time.

Azzy is at liberty to deal with who he likes. You can't rig votes however, that will be spotted and isn't allowed.

Is Viva allowed to make insulting offers for other teams' players? If so I'll be ignoring his tactics and will vote 5-0 against him each time.

I can see it now, Viva confirms deals from TM but says 'I ain't payin' that', so takes 50% off

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Is Azzy allowed to ignore deals I make?  If so I'll be ignoring his tactics and will vote 5-0 against him each time.

He can't ignore the players you sign. But I think he means he is going to ignore any offers you make to him doesn't he?

sodhat wrote:

Afro wrote:

sodhat wrote:

Azzy Mahmood wrote:I found my uni marks the other day, the best I got in three years was a 69 while studying Monty Python and the Holy Grail. During my history degree

Damn, I went through 3 years of college and didn't even give a hand job.

 
You couldn't have taught at Azzy's uni then

My original post was true, your edited version isn't.

So you did give a handjob during college?