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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:48 pm

stupid.... because he will be out of the ring for a total of 13 months by the time he meets Floyd in May 2014

wise... because its too dangerous a fight to take when he could miss out on a potential £10 million payday

hypercritical... because he has always claimed to be the best in the division but this represents a clear duck

In my view Khan needs to face and beat Alexander in December. He still has not proven himself imo. Winning a belt and looseing it just as quickly does not make him a genuine p4p contender. According to the Mirror the Alexander fight is truely off and Khan will now wait for Money May.

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Post by kingraf Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:50 pm

All of the above really.
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Post by azania Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:58 pm

So he's going after the very best means he's ducking an also ran? He claims he wants the best in the division and he gets the best.

You just don't like him and don't want his sort earning shed loads of money. Looking forward to it. Good fight while it lasts. But there is a current thread. Any need for another?

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Post by BoxingFan88 Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:56 pm

Should have fought Alexander (which is a very winnable fight for him) then the Mayweather fight would make a little bit of sense.

First fight at the weight against a fighter who is superior in every single aspect.

Its going to be a decimation.

He will get a good pay day though.

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Post by azania Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:02 pm

NOt many boxers take on a dangerous fight when there's a pot of £10m waiting for them. Those who do that are stupid or Ortiz.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:22 pm

He needs to fight Devon to prepare for Floyd.

Its not that I don't like him he needs to fight before May 2014

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:30 pm

I reckon he's eyeing the mayweather fight as retirement fight/ pension fund regardless of whether he wins or loses. If he fights Devon and loses then the Floyd ship sails

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Post by azania Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:43 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:He needs to fight Devon to prepare for Floyd.

Its not that I don't like him he needs to fight before May 2014
You don't take on a dangerous opponent in preparation for Floyd. Especially a leftie.

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Post by azania Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:44 pm

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:I reckon he's eyeing the mayweather fight as retirement fight/ pension fund regardless of whether he wins or loses. If he fights Devon and loses then the Floyd ship sails
Maybe so. He did that in the Peterson robbery.

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Post by bellchees Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:08 pm

Every fighter in Khan's position does the exact same thing, it would be stupid not to. Why fight a dangerous contender for one tenth of the money if that puts the Mayweather fight at risk? All the preparation in the world wouldn't make him ready for Floyd, take the shot whilst it's there, especially if your struggling in home fights to the likes of Julio Diaz because I think Alexander beats Khan right now.

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Post by azania Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:10 pm

Yeah but Khan is a special case here. His detractors set standards and objectives no boxer in history would do.

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Post by Scottrf Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:22 pm

Fighting Alexander with a Mayweather fight on the horizon would be moronic. There's really nothing more to say.

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Post by Lance Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:24 pm

hes gotta take it on. One lucky punch and hes the biggest boxer in the world!

no way hes earning anywhere near 10 million though. Would be shocked if he makes more than 2 million. this fight wont be selling like the Alvarez fight did, and he wont be commanding anywhere near the same percentage Alvarez did

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Post by Scottrf Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:27 pm

You're joking? Guerrero made $3m, Khan is a bigger name. $5m guarantee would be my guess.

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Post by Boxtthis Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:29 pm

Scottrf wrote:Fighting Alexander with a Mayweather fight on the horizon would be moronic. There's really nothing more to say.
As much as I don't feel Khan deserves the Mayweather fight, this statement just about sums up any sensible person's thought process.

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:23 am

The only reasons Khan has got this fight is because he can probably match May in handspeed and he might sell big at wembley. If Khan catches May at the right time he could make tens of millions in his next fight and if he doesnt and has a good crack at it he could still make a few million. Mayweather might even prolong it just to bring his own marketability up from his 'boring' fights and then knock him out when he wants. If he fights Alexander then he could lose out on all that (even though I think he'd win).

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Post by KingMonkey Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:16 am

No idea why Khan should earn more than Guerrero tbh. Can't se it being close to 10M either way.

Its understandable that Khan has taken this but it won't be competitive and does nothing for either legacy.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:34 am

It's a duck for the same perfectly fair reasons Haye-Charr and Fury-Pulev were - financial.

Why take a medium-high risk fight for small return when you could get a career defining life changing pay-day in an alternative match-up??

The only thing I would say is there's no reason he can't fight both. Unless he's aware that he's done nothing to deserve his money-shot (see what I did there?) as it is and is worried he'll lose to Alexander thus scuppering the big one. But Khan has never struck me as that kind of guy.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:37 am

azania wrote:Yeah but Khan is a special case here. His detractors set standards and objectives no boxer in history would do.
Except he's not at all. Only in your eyes with your hang-ups. #issues Rolling Eyes

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:38 am

Alexander splatters Khan without too much issue. He needs to avoid him if he wants to fight Floyd.

That said, if he did lose would it prevent the fight. Knocked over by a chubby lightweight, beaten up by Peterson and knocked out by Garcia. Hardly the stuff of champions yet he's still getting a shot.

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Post by huw Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:41 am

For me Khan would probably lose to Alexander, he is very accurate and hits hard enough to trouble him.

Alexander is a good fight for him. However, Mayweather is a one off and to miss the opportunity to fight him is like turning down the chance to sleep with five playboy bunnies to have the chance to sleep with one.

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Post by Boxtthis Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:05 am

Khan vs Alexander is a 50/50 fight. I'm not sure that Alexander is good enough at exerting pressure to panic Khan enough (the best way to beat him). But, he's accurate and a decent counter puncher. Could catch Khan Danny Garcia style and keep him in trouble. It's a fight I'd like to see tbh.

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Post by Scottrf Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:20 am

ShahenshahG wrote:The only reasons Khan has got this fight is because he can probably match May in handspeed and he might sell big at wembley. If Khan catches May at the right time he could make tens of millions in his next fight and if he doesnt and has a good crack at it he could still make a few million. Mayweather might even prolong it just to bring his own marketability up from his 'boring' fights and then knock him out when he wants. If he fights Alexander then he could lose out on all that (even though I think he'd win).
It wont be at Wembley. Gate fees are minimal compared to US PPV, and a large proportion of the gate fees are based on high prices for the top seats, not number of tickets sold. Manny's Dallas Cowboy stadium fight vs Clottey had double the attendance of Mayweather-Alvarez but a third of the gate fee. Add to the revenue the Casinos generate and tax in the UK, Mayweather will never fight here.

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Post by STC Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:24 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
hypercritical... because he has always claimed to be the best in the division but this represents a clear duck...
Yes you are being a bit hypercritical.
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Post by Mayweathers cellmate Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:28 am

However underserving Khan is of a fight with Mayweather you can't blame him for sidestepping Alexander, or any other fight between now and May next year. Imagine if he took a tune up fight and got injured, would go down as the stupidest decision in Boxing history.

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Post by hogey Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:38 am

I dont rate Khan and think it will be a joke if Floyd chooses such a poor opponent for his next fight, however i dont blame Khan he would be an idiot to risk his biggest ever purse fighting Alexander who i think will beat him pretty comfortably and kill his career stone dead.

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Post by Boxtthis Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:09 am

STC wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
hypercritical... because he has always claimed to be the best in the division but this represents a clear duck...
Yes you are being a bit hypercritical.
Was wondering when someone would pick this up Smile

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Post by STC Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:19 am

Boxtthis wrote:
STC wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
hypercritical... because he has always claimed to be the best in the division but this represents a clear duck...
Yes you are being a bit hypercritical.
Was wondering when someone would pick this up Smile
Couldn't help myself.
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Post by Lance Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:38 pm

Scottrf wrote:You're joking? Guerrero made $3m, Khan is a bigger name. $5m guarantee would be my guess.
I was talking pounds, so we are not that far apart. 5 million dollars is only 3 million pounds. The timing of the fight suggests Khan has little bargaining power though, not to mention the timing of the fight means it will sell less than the Guerrero fight. after Mayweather beat Alvarez easily, a few less people are gonna payout to watch Mayweather beat Khan comfortably. don't think Khan will earn more than Guerrero myself

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:31 pm

Why is it Stupid ??...........Boxing is a business and In business the name of the game is to make money........Not another boxer who wouldn't swap a low buck fight for a huge buck fight and make sure he's stable after he's retired.......

Right move and good for him.........Especially as when he retires the only people who will generally give a turd about him are his family and close friends........The critical OP certainly won't...........

Do what is best for you in this life..........You can't please everybody and don't try to......

It's the right move.........It's a hard business Alexander is 50/50.........Take the money and who knows Floyd will have to get old sometime.....

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:37 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Why is it Stupid ??...........Boxing is a business and In business the name of the game is to make money........Not another boxer who wouldn't swap a low buck fight for a huge buck fight and make sure he's stable after he's retired.......

Right move and good for him.........Especially as when he retires the only people who will generally give a turd about him are his family and close friends........The critical OP certainly won't...........

Do what is best for you in this life..........You can't please everybody and don't try to......

It's the right move.........It's a hard business Alexander is 50/50.........Take the money and who knows Floyd will have to get old sometime.....
So we are fans of fighters financial state now or are we fans of boxing?

If Khan avoids Alexander and faces Mayweather in May then he is a selfish barsteward but please feel free to line his slimy pockets by paying through the nose for the PPV. All Mayweather is to Khan is a meal ticket thats why he and his money grabbing team have been chasing Floyd for years now. Wheres the ambition????

This is a sport.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:41 pm

The ambition in all sport is primarily to make money.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:43 pm

Absolutely because when you retire......No one gives a crap and it's left to your family and close friends to pick up the pieces..

Then again If Bob Mee disagrees ...I'll change my mind..


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Post by KingMonkey Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:47 pm

Agreed OneTwo.  I don't watch sport to glance at cash purses or balance sheets.  I want to see good games of football, excellent test matches and the best boxers fighting the best boxers in good match-ups.

I couldn't give a flying one how much Khan makes from this.  He has no  business in the ring with Floyd.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:50 pm

You couldn't care what happens to Khan when he finishes either could you??.....

Khan doesn't owe you anything..........Khan is to do what is best for Khan..and good luck to him.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:04 pm

Exactly my point KingMonkey.

This is a sport. I want to see Mayweather face a WORTHY opponent. I want to see Barcelona face teams like Real Madrid or Munich in the European final but should a team like Yoevil fc get to the final its because they deserve it.

TRUSS seems concerned more with Khans retirement plans, as if Khan would pee on him if he was on fire. Khan is already doing whats best for Khan always has but this is boxing a sport bigger then Khan and I would like to see an atg like Mayweather face proper deserving opposition while he is with us.

Khans made enough money.

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Post by KingMonkey Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:16 pm

I don't disregard money in sport. I understand why Khan is sidestepping what would be a career and legacy enhancing win only to get his backsided royally handed to him in front of millions.

I also understand why Tony Cottee left West Ham for Everton back in the eighties.

That doesn't mean to say its the best thing for his career as a sportsman. Cottee never did get to play for England and Khan never will amount to much more than he already has in boxing.

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Post by owen10ozzy Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:24 pm

So then is the blame on Khan's shoulders!? At the end of the day if Khan is offered the bout then why not take it? .....You don't see Yeovil turning down a friendly with Man Utd or any other big team who can help fill the stadium and therefore gain some revenue...

Surely the onus should be on Mayweather to ensure he is fighting the best out there? So is it not his fault if this fight goes ahead...not Khan's who is merely doing what anyone else in their right frame of mind would do...

KingMonkey & Onetwo - If the pair of you were offered $1 million to fight each other...or you both made some noise about wanting to fight Mayweather and eventually offered the chance to fight him for $5 million.....which would you take?

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:24 pm

Why doesn't khan just fight Berto first....seems to be main way to get a mayweather fight
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:34 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Exactly my point KingMonkey.

This is a sport. I want to see Mayweather face a WORTHY opponent. I want to see Barcelona face teams like Real Madrid or Munich in the European final but should a team like Yoevil fc get to the final its because they deserve it.

TRUSS seems concerned more with Khans retirement plans, as if Khan would pee on him if he was on fire. Khan is already doing whats best for Khan always has but this is boxing a sport bigger then Khan and I would like to see an atg like Mayweather face proper deserving opposition while he is with us.

Khans made enough money.
My concern is that boxing is a hard sport and you are soon forgotten........

If the money is there take it..

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:39 pm

Khan has earned more in his career so far than most will in a lifetime. He doesn't need people worrying about him.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:40 pm

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Post by KingMonkey Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:41 pm

You are soon forgotten if you have no legacy. If Khan fought and beat Alexander then perhaps one more then he'd have earned his shot.

Fighters with a legacy are never forgotten.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:42 pm

You don't think beating Mayweather or losing heroically is more legacy enhancing then !!

and you don't think fighting floyd raises his profile.........

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Post by Mayweathers cellmate Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:14 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Exactly my point KingMonkey.

This is a sport. I want to see Mayweather face a WORTHY opponent. I want to see Barcelona face teams like Real Madrid or Munich in the European final but should a team like Yoevil fc get to the final its because they deserve it.

TRUSS seems concerned more with Khans retirement plans, as if Khan would pee on him if he was on fire. Khan is already doing whats best for Khan always has but this is boxing a sport bigger then Khan and I would like to see an atg like Mayweather face proper deserving opposition while he is with us.

Khans made enough money.
Like who?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:18 pm

Probably Vitali knowing ONETWo.......

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Post by KingMonkey Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:19 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You don't think beating Mayweather or losing heroically is more legacy enhancing then !!

and you don't think fighting floyd raises his profile.........
Hasn't done much for Guerrero or Ortiz and that's the sort of level we're talking about here. Just another guy who came and got comprehensively seen to. Even worse is the liklihood that he gets utterly dismantled and knocked out. Just add it to his losses.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:20 pm

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ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Exactly my point KingMonkey.

This is a sport. I want to see Mayweather face a WORTHY opponent. I want to see Barcelona face teams like Real Madrid or Munich in the European final but should a team like Yoevil fc get to the final its because they deserve it.

TRUSS seems concerned more with Khans retirement plans, as if Khan would pee on him if he was on fire. Khan is already doing whats best for Khan always has but this is boxing a sport bigger then Khan and I would like to see an atg like Mayweather face proper deserving opposition while he is with us.

Khans made enough money.
Like who?
Garcia is by far the most credible and deserving challenger.

Bradley also has a shout ahead of Khan by that definition.

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Post by Boxtthis Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:21 pm

Mayweathers cellmate wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Exactly my point KingMonkey.

This is a sport. I want to see Mayweather face a WORTHY opponent. I want to see Barcelona face teams like Real Madrid or Munich in the European final but should a team like Yoevil fc get to the final its because they deserve it.

TRUSS seems concerned more with Khans retirement plans, as if Khan would pee on him if he was on fire. Khan is already doing whats best for Khan always has but this is boxing a sport bigger then Khan and I would like to see an atg like Mayweather face proper deserving opposition while he is with us.

Khans made enough money.
Like who?
Exactly the problem. Everyone is quick to moan about the opponent choice (and it is a poor choice), but it's not as if Mayweather is surrounded by alternatives.

Martinez or GGG at 154 are the fights fans want to see, but I don't blame Floyd for not taking them. Bradley if he beats Marquez might be an opponent (is he still with TR?). Apart from that who is there?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:23 pm

Khan offers a world class jab and speed........

Floyd hasn't faced that problem for a while..

shame Khan is too thick to realise his potential.

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