Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread IV

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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I still dream of Sudfeld and Gronk over the middle Dave  

[mikeygnfl]

Gronk has apparently tore his ACL.

[crazy_dave23]

Gronk has apparently tore his ACL.

beat me to it

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Gronk has apparently tore his ACL.

Yep. His knee went the wrong way. Done for the year.

Poor guy can't catch a break

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

And with him go our super bowl hopes. No chance now. Probably one and done in January.

Denver's to lose for sure

[mikeygnfl]

Just found out I have called 9 of the first 10 games correct on the NFL's Weekly Pick'em game. The only game I got wrong was the Steelers vs Dolphins.

[GSC]

More a question of when Shanahan will be fired now.

Good luck to the next coach reigning in RG3s ego when the owner has his back

[mikeygnfl]

It seems the Broncos don't want to be left out on making a winning comeback today.

[adams_legend]

More a question of when Shanahan will be fired now.

Good luck to the next coach reigning in RG3s ego when the owner has his back

And the new coach won't have a first round pick to try and solve the issues

[GSC]

The only guy who makes much sense is Art Briles RG3s college coach

[mikeygnfl]

Dolphins have the Patriots, @Bills and Jets left.
Ravens have the @Lions, Patriots and @Bengals left.

The Dolphins must be favourites for the 6th seed in the AFC now.

[mikeygnfl]

Prater just kicked a 64 yards FG. Wonder if Cundiff was watching?

[Skyforger]

Why did the Pats go for a 2 point conversion at the end?

Was it just to run the clock down some more?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Why did the Pats go for a 2 point conversion at the end?

Was it just to run the clock down some more?

Try to go up by 3 rather than 2.

Prater continues the day of madness

[Skyforger]

Ah, my maths sucks

[Pr4wn]

Bad call on Pollard for a change.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Welker out with concussion. 2nd time this season, also had a few in foxboro

[mikeygnfl]

49ers hold on for the last 26 seconds to beat the Seahawks 19-17.

[Number-25]

So, the Redskins are a mess. In fact, it's worse than a mess. I'm not actually sure there's a word that describes this level of poison and ineptitude and farce. I wish we could clear every person out of the building and start again. Snyder and Shanahan seem to truly deserve each other.

[Number-25]

The only guy who makes much sense is Art Briles RG3s college coach

Oh dear God no.... the ego is big enough as it is. Not that Briles would want the job anyway - who would leave a cosy job like Baylor to come to this shambles??

[GSC]

What did we learn yesterday then.

The Lions can't stop beating themselves. The Eagles did nothing of note for 3 quarters Sunday. Then the Lions imploded. The Eagle had 3 TD runs of 38 yards or more, 150+ yards in a quarter on the ground. Stafford fumbled a snap deep in Eagles territory. The Lions were handed the NFC North and they're going to lose it.

The Seahawks lose a close one but shouldn't worry. Yeah a tough game to your big rivals is never fun. But the road to NY goes through Seattle and both SF and NO were dominated there.

Similarly the road in the AFC goes through Denver. The Patriots held on for a (assisted) win over the Browns but early indications are Gronks season is over. Holding off the Bengals is more realistic than chasing the Broncos.

The Colts are a bad team right now. Defense has gone to pot. OL sucks. WR corps are spotty without Wayne. Fortunately the AFC is terrible.

Is Cam ready for the playoffs. After the Patriots game I thought he'd turned a corner. Highlight reel plays aside he needs to do more.

Time is up for Mike Shanahan as a NFL HC. 4 years on the Redskins are still a dumpster fire. Losing track of how many massive defeats that is now. The problems don't stop with him however. Good luck to the next HC when Snyder already treats RG3 like the superstar he isn't.

[sodhat]

One more to add from my perspective:

Give the damn ball to Marcel Reece. A fullback just got 120+ yards on the Jets front. McFadden is done and we need to get Reece much much more involved.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Yeah Gronk's done, a man's knee is not meant to bend that way.

And with him our chances significantly decrease. We've gone from our defence carrying our injured offence, to our offence carrying our injured defence, to injured offence and defence

[sodhat]

If the Patriots had a list of key players at the start of last season that they couldn't do without, I imagine nearly all of them are now injured. Barring Brady. If I were him I'd look both ways a couple of times before crossing the road.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

If the Patriots had a list of key players at the start of last season that they couldn't do without, I imagine nearly all of them are now injured. Barring Brady. If I were him I'd look both ways a couple of times before crossing the road.

Indeed. Wilfork and Mayo heart of our front seven down, Talib is unrecognisable due to this hip injury. Only McCorty survives on D.

Gronk on offence, the rookie wr's now down as well. Lead running back can't stop fumbling.

Yet we're still 10-3. Belichick is working miracles this year. But there ain't no way we're winning in Denver if we even make the AFC title game. Unless manning goes down its Denver's to lose

[sodhat]

I just hope the Seahawks don't win it all. They would be insufferable winners. Hard to see anyone toppling them at home though, and then it'll be a case of how strong their opponent will be from the AFC.

[GSC]

Sometimes Richard Sherman just needs to stop talking

[BamBam]

I can't see how anyone is going to win in Seattle, so its up to Denver to stop them I reckon.

I'm just glad Cherries mum caught him watching porn one too many times so took away his internet connection

[Pr4wn]

We were all saying similar things last year, don't forget. Broncos looked invincible.

[GSC]

If the Jets can win in NE after being pounded 45-3, any given Sunday is alive and well. I like the Bengals in the AFC.

Something that flew under the radar. A Florida team put up 34 points in the snow at Pittsburgh.

[Guest]

One more to add from my perspective:

Give the damn ball to Marcel Reece. A fullback just got 120+ yards on the Jets front. McFadden is done and we need to get Reece much much more involved.

Hopefully, but if he gets a new contract in the off season then you really have to ask questions of Allen and McKenzie

For the first time for as long as I can remember I'm actually genuinely excited for the football season to end. With the salary cap space we'll have we might have a genuine shot at putting together a half decent team

[GSC]

The Raiders seem to be getting better in spite of McKenzies drafts.

[sodhat]

I think we need to give some credit to Reggie too though.

Sio Moore and Mychal Rivera were good picks, and DJ Hayden and Menelik Watson will need a bit more time. But if we get three or four hits out of any one draft it's better than we've been getting before... Add UDFAs like Streater and McGloin (and maybe Holmes), and he's done OK.

Reggie was also very astute in FA picking up cheap players that have performed well. Roach, Burnett, Walker, Sims, Woodson, Jenkins, Porter - all have been good for us.

[GSC]

Rob Gronkowski has a torn ACL, confirmed by MRI.

Looks like he'll be a question mark for next seasons start

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

ACL and MCL. Wowzer.

Gotta wonder how many more injuries he can take.

Also LeBeau is getting canned in Pittsburgh at the end of this year, that defence has been pathetic all year

[GSC]

Dick LeBeau is a living legend. I doubt hes being kicked to the curb just yet.

Talent is the issue in Pittsburgh, too many mainstays have been allowed to become old and ineffective with no contingency plan.

[sodhat]

Dick LeBeau is a living legend. I doubt hes being kicked to the curb just yet.

Talent is the issue in Pittsburgh, too many mainstays have been allowed to become old and ineffective with no contingency plan.

Like Dick LeBeau  

[GSC]

Shanahan trying to goad Snyder into firing him

[crazy_dave23]

I'm watching the beginning of the Eagles Lions just because of the snow... its so funny

[Number-25]

And the award for most ridiculous quote in the world today goes to Kirk Cousins for this belter:-

" My own personal perspective [is] I absolutely love the Shanahans and believe they’re doing a great job coaching us. I would like to see them still be here. But that’s not my decision to make.”

Yep, apparently in Washington, 3-10 equals a great job coaching.... beggars belief.

[GSC]

Not sure what else you expected him to say after Shanahan basically made him the starter

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

So Monte Kiffen needs to be fired asap. Baffling appointment in the first place, stunk at USC

[Pr4wn]

Did a fantastic job in Tampa but he just doesn't have the personnel to run that scheme. The defensive line is way overrated and the linebackers are nowhere near athletic enough.

[GSC]

The game has passed Kiffin by. Great DC in his day.

[GSC]

It's not a crushing loss for Dallas, but it does give the Eagles breathing room. You'd think it's now or never for Rodgers to return for GB, so it's not getting easier

[mikeygnfl]

Rodgers hasn't been cleared so it looks like Flynn is in vs the Cowboys this week. Rodgers would certainly help the Eagles cause though. It looks like Adrian Peterson is out of the Eagles vs Vikings game.

[mikeygnfl]

Eagles vs Bears game in week 16 has been moved to the 1.30am C4 slot and the Patriots vs Ravens game has been moved to 9.25pm.

[GSC]

Rodgers hasn't been cleared yet. Tested tomorrow.

If he doesn't play this week he might as well go on IR

[skins4ever]

Why did the Pats go for a 2 point conversion at the end?

Was it just to run the clock down some more?

Try to go up by 3 rather than 2.

Prater continues the day of madness

And a 1 or 2 point conversion takes no time off the game clock. The play clock only operates to address delay of game.

[skins4ever]

Rodgers hasn't been cleared yet. Tested tomorrow.

If he doesn't play this week he might as well go on IR

Why? GB are 1/2 a game back on Detroit and the Bears. If Flynn can keep them in the playoff hunt (and the way the lions are shooting themselves in the foot...), then Rodgers could return in week 16 or 17, or maybe the post season to good effect.

[GSC]

They won't beat Dallas without Rodgers. They barely beat a Falcons team in free fall. GB has no margin for error anymore.

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