Ulster v Munster

by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:43 pm

First topic message reminder :

No one making a new thread so it falls to a Ladyboy to keep yis honest

the IT on Tuesday wrote:Penney said Conor Murray and Simon Zebo would return to the fray towards the end of next week and were not yet ruled out of the upcoming Heineken Cup tie with Gloucester.

Flanker Sean Dougall and centre James Downey (groin) will also miss this week’s game but should be fine for the Gloucester trip.

Donnacha Ryan will not make that clash and is unlikely to be fit for the final Heineken Cup clash with Edinburgh, but Penney said the lock would be available for the Six Nations.

profitius wrote:Munster team vs Ulster named. Its weaker than I thought it would be. No JJ, Cronin, Downey, Earls or Donn Ryan.

Munster: Felix Jones; Andrew Conway, Casey Laulala, Ivan Dineen, Ronan O'Mahony; Ian Keatley, Cathal Sheridan; Dave Kilcoyne, Damien Varley, Stephen Archer; Donncha O'Callaghan, Paul O'Connell; Peter O'Mahony Capt., Tommy O'Donnell, James Coughlan.

Replacements: Duncan Casey, John Ryan, BJ Botha, Dave Foley, CJ Stander, Duncan Williams, Johnny Holland, Johne Murphy.

Murray is back in training and Zebo must be nearing a return also.

the IT today wrote:There is some optimism in Ulster as the province is expected to announce a three-month contract for Stephen Ferris, which would give the popular Ravenhill figure a realistic chance to prove his fitness.

The highly-regarded international has been unavailable due to injury since November 2012 but has been making progress on his ankle injury since an operation in the summer. Ulster also expect that their captain, Johann Muller, Irish international backrow Chris Henry, John Afoa and Nick Williams will be all set to face Munster in a sold-out Ravenhill on Friday. It is also expected that forward Iain Henderson will return.

Notch wrote:Ulster XV and replacements to face Munster, RaboDirect PRO12, Ravenhill, Friday 2nd January (kick off 19:05);

(15-9): J Payne, A Trimble, D Cave, L Marshall, C Gilroy, P Jackson, R Pienaar; (1-8): T Court, R Herring, J Afoa, I Henderson, D Tuohy, R Diack (Captain), C Henry, R Wilson; (16-23): N Annett, C Black, D Fitzpatrick, L Stevenson, N Williams, S Doyle, P Marshall, M Allen.

First reaction- TERRIBLE news Muller suffered an injury in training this week. Big blow- hope he is there for Montpellier. Extra back row forward on the bench to cover for the fact Henry and Henderson are on their first games back.

Hanrahan isn't involved at all for Munster, not gutted about that.

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:00 pm

Great game so far its a good night for rugby there and both teams are going for it. Ulster need to refocus now and make sure they don't let up in the 2nd half. payne is magnificent.

by BlueMuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:02 pm

Absolutely embarrassing from Munster! Keatley everything dod said about him is proving to be spot on. Take him off now.

Ulster playing ok but in fairness when keatley keeps giving them back the ball they should be further ahead

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:08 pm

Keatley is having a mare and has really handed Ulster far too much possession and the wasting of points is giving Ulster even more momentum. Ulster have been 10 times better than last week and have played some excellent rugby. Well worth their lead and then some.

by LeinsterFan4life Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:09 pm

I think if Munster had a kicking 9 (they should never have let Murray stop practicing kicking) then Keatley would be ok. He seems good with ball in hand but his poor kicking is starting to effect all of his game.

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:14 pm

Again lost points...

by **rodders** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:18 pm

Alain Rolland having a cracking game for Munster here.

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:19 pm

Good try from Munster, on the way back Very Happy

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:20 pm

Ah dear dear lads you need to keep the discipline oh and Keatley has found his kicking boots somewhere

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:21 pm

Jaysus, Keatley converts. Game very much on.

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:23 pm

ah Rodders how are you sir it's been a while enjoying the game? I see Cari has disapeared of the posts since I was last on as Bowe is injured lol I think Rolland has been ok he has been fairly consistent at least with his refereeing we need to tighten up the discipline though

by BlueMuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:24 pm

Archer has court in his pocket

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:28 pm

Must be some pocket to fit Court in it lol and at that point ulster win a pen in the scrum good timing lads lol

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:28 pm

About time Rolland looked at Archer- he has been boring in at an angle at every scrum.

by **rodders** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:29 pm

Bout ye Neil! Not a great game so far but Rolland and Payne have been the standouts ... Smile

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:31 pm

will alan rolland go back to that blatant taking out of trimble of the ball?

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:34 pm

I'm good Rodders all better now well the voices in my head are still there but sure they were always there Munster lucky before that Rolland didn't come back to that off the ball tackle on Trimble for it should have been a yellow

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:34 pm

I can't believe that a man wearing orange could be so pro-Munster

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:35 pm

That should be more than enough for Ulster now.

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:36 pm

Ah bigh Nick is on good to see ya big fella

by **rodders** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:38 pm

Good man Neil, speaking of voices in heads O'Connell should be in the bin for taking out Trimble rather than acting as O'Mahoneys ventriloquist.

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:39 pm

Poor defence of the maul there on another note who are the people showing these replays they are not actually showing us the incidents

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:40 pm

I guess all of you wanting a yellow card for Trimbles's take out didn't see POM get blatantly taken out?

Get in there Munster.

by **rodders** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:40 pm

Bollix. Munstered there. Poor show.

by **rodders** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:42 pm

Payne apart this has been pretty mediocre stuff.

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:43 pm

Tuohys late hit on POM was pretty cheap and nasty. I hate that sort of thing.

by Golden Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:43 pm

Yellow here.

Or not how many warning does he give?

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:44 pm

How Munster do not have a yellow card by now I do not know trimble got high tackled there hand in every ruck, and pienaar stopped by someone ofside looks now like someone will be going to bin

by littlejohn Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:44 pm

Ulster losing turn-over out wide is killing them - need to keep it a bit tighter...

by BlueMuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:45 pm

He was on his feet that a terrible call is he blind

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:48 pm

Very bizarre call on that penalty. Looked like a good turnover to me. I suppose he had to give Ulster something eventually. He's been dreadful tonight.

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:49 pm

Hands in the ruck Blue it does not matter whether youa re on your feet and as we have already established from what he has missed so far yes he is blind lol

by BlueMuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:50 pm

Come on Munster

by **rodders** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:51 pm

God this is awful, any chance we can join the Aviva with the welsh to get away from Rolland.

by LeinsterFan4life Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:51 pm

Are refs any better in the Aviva rods?

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:51 pm

Jaysus, that looked a try to me.

by Golden Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:51 pm

He's gone after this season isn't he?

by **rodders** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:52 pm

Whoa though Black went down there?

by Golden Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:54 pm

Maybe not even a bp for Munster

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:55 pm

How people can see Rolland being for Munster I have no idea. He has been dreadful but equally dreadful for both sides.

by littlejohn Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:56 pm

POC outplayed by Touhy today - showed more aggression and power

by BlueMuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:57 pm

Great game Munster much better in second half. A half decent fly half and who knows?

Well done ulster

by Golden Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:57 pm

Jones was anonymous again. Long gone are the days when he was pushing Kearney for the irish jersey

by **rodders** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:57 pm

Bizarre game - Munster have been robbed of the win and Ulster of a 5 point win simultaneously. Rolland was terrible.

SUFTUM.

by littlejohn Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:58 pm

Well done ulster - Pienaar may be crap for SA but he's savage for Ulster

by Nachos Jones Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:58 pm

Well played Ulster, a marked improvement on last weeks display. Bad second half but Payne won it for you guys in the first half with a simply stunning display.

by neilthom7 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:58 pm

Well that was a lot tighter than half time suggested. payne was excellant, Henry did well, Afoa was good and centre turned over well. Munster put up a fight and Keatley lost his kicking boots. Rolland was terrible but at least was consistently terrible really could have been about 4 yellows in that game other than the one he actually did give kinda pointlessly a minute before the end. In the end I felt Ulster deserved the win and Chris Henry should have done much to help his Ireland chances there.

by Artful_Dodger Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:58 pm

Never mind Rolland, that touch judge Dudley Phillips is very dodgey. The lineout near the end was thrown straight down the Munster line and Phillips apparently saw nothing wrong with it, then penalised Tuohy for taking out the Munster jumper.

by BlueMuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:58 pm

Should have been a peno try Munster that last maul

by Artful_Dodger Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:58 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:At Ravenhill...and looking at the two team sheets, Ulster should really be winning this. Munster have a very poor recent record against Ulster and for me that Ulster team sheet is much stronger, particularly the back line and front row. Munster have much more experience and quality in the second row and a pretty good looking backrow, but I'd give Ulster the edge everywhere else.

Ulster by 10.

Why didn't I put a few quid on this Doh

by littlejohn Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:59 pm

Golden wrote:Jones was anonymous again. Long gone are the days when he was pushing Kearney for the irish jersey

Dont think he was given much of a chance - I still see him as a decent alternative to Earls long-term - not a full back but wing/centre

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